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Thanks for that info, it seems like CNN is the main one because the lower links just quote CNN. But I did find this interesting from th te CNN link: Hamas on Wednesday denied the allegations. Izzat al-Risheq, a senior official and spokesperson for the Islamist militant group, said that the international media had “spread lies about our Palestinian people and the resistance claiming that members of the Palestinian resistance beheaded children and attacked women with no evidence to support such claims and lies.” Al-Risheq’s claim that Hamas did not attack women is demonstrably false. Women, children and the elderly at kibbutzim like Kfar Aza and Be’eri and were killed during the surprise attack. Videos posted online verified by CNN show women who were attending the music festival targeted by the group’s gunmen being kidnapped. —-------------- It seems like a he said she said kind of an event. You have Israel saying one thing and then you have Hamas saying one thing.. The most recent news about this issue came from a France news: Israeli officer says he found baby beheaded in Hamas attack https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231027-israeli-officer-says-he-found-baby-beheaded-in-hamas-attack Speaking on a tour of the Kfar Aza kibbutz, a community of 700 devastated in the attacks, the Israeli colonel told reporters he had been asked since making his gruesome discovery why there were no images. "People ask me how come you did not take a picture. I said: ‘I’m sorry, I have children. I have limitations. I have limits. I do not take a picture of a decapitated baby," Vach said. --------- So it is a he said she said kind of things. I don't know what to make of this but one thing is for sure, I'm far more skeptical about Hamas telling me something and believing their side.

There's no verified news outlet there. I don't see nothing. There's no link to anything.

Actually saw this in BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67260093 Meanwhile, the Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 8,000 people have been killed since Israel's retaliatory bombing began. —----------------------- I think this is why some are doubting those figures because it's coming from Hamas, and they are not to be trusted.

Watching this Spanish report of this girl that was rape and killed by Hamas. As well they are doubting the reports of the death as these people are saying that the information is coming from Hamas that lies..... Make that what you want. But these events are why Israel is angry and ain't stopping the war despite what the world says. And hey the world has not done nothing about Ukraine and Russia as it's still one year going. And sadly this would be the same.

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debunked? By who? Seriously I can disagree with some stuff that Israel has done, but you stating that that Israeli made up beheading baby's is just insane. Like those that say the Jewish Holocaust never happen.....

To be fair I'm actually surprised by this. I always thought Biden was very negative against Israel. Very surprised to say the least.

But that's what I'm saying. Nowhere where USA has tried to established democracy has ever worked. Israel has been the only one and to a certain extant Panama, even though they are starting to go down after flourishing for a bit. So my original point is that no, USA is not that good to have satellite states everywhere. That is nearly impossible to do, Israel to have flourish like this and is the few democracy is just a miracle.

But we always gave a lot of money away to all the other countries....look at how much we spend in Afghanistan? Only to fall to Taliban in less then a month.

You got some nice city in Portland and what not. But yes this mass shooting is out of control.

True, but I also spoken to a lot of Panamanians and they mentioned how things have gone worse since they left. But in the end my point stand, the only country that was not even a country and we help and still maintain a good relationship is Israel. Everywhere else USA has not had a fruit of a country like Israel. Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan are to name a few. So that is either a miracle or just coincidence if you don't believe in miracles...

Well it's because Israel has done good with what it's giving. Because we tried to do the same in other countries, Israel is one of the few that has come good. Would have love to have the same in Iraq and Afghanistan, but it never worked. So it's not as easy as it seems, there's many factors to consider. If Israel has progress today is a lot because of their people. Other countries just kicked us out and have either progress or decline, and I would say most of them have decline.

I agree with most except this: A US satellite state in the Middle east for real? If USA was that powerful we would have Afghanistan and Iraq as another colony. We suck at maintaining satellite states. So I don't agree with that, otherwise we would continue to have heavy presence everywhere. Another example Panama was all USA, then they kick us out. So no I don't agree with that, we are very bad maintaining that.

Another mass shooting in USA, this time in Maine. This is getting crazy.

Well we need a reboot and that's what happen last year. But also needed a manager that was good with young players and play good futbol. Before I was a big fan of Bielsa because he does that, he was good with bringing a very good brand of futbol and improve players....but he was too crazy. Pochetino was like a manager that came from that school but he was good with young players as saw in Tottenham and Southampton. So he was like the best candidate available at the moment and I'm glad we got him.

I think Chilwell when fit will take that place. Thiago.....need to face out. Gallagher I love but I have a feeling Lavia might come better.

But I can agree with the article because I remember after September 11 no one thought with a cool head. It was just a rage to get pay back. With what Hamas did, Israel is in a similar mode. And that is the sad part, because yes Hamas are a terrorist organization, but a lot of innocent people are dying. That is always the worst part of war weather here in Israel, Ukraine, wars in Africa etc etc.

I check the article, guy is saying something similar I mentioned that just like US with 911 they went with rage and did some bad decisions. Similar here Israel. But I checked the quote and it took me to Vox and this is what Vox said: Second, a columnist at Israel’s Ha’aretz newspaper unearthed evidence that Netanyahu has intentionally propped up Hamas rule in Gaza — seeing Palestinian extremism as a bulwark against a two-state solution to the conflict. “Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” the prime minister reportedly said at a 2019 meeting of his Likud party. “This is part of our strategy — to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank.” These exact comments have not yet been confirmed by other sources. But the Times of Israel’s Tal Schneider wrote on Sunday that Netanyahu’s reported words “are in line with the policy that he implemented,” which did little to challenge and in some ways bolstered Hamas’s control over the Gaza Strip. Moreover, Schneider notes, “the same messaging was repeated by right-wing commentators, who may have received briefings on the matter or talked to Likud higher-ups and understood the message.” Some Netanyahu confidants have said the same thing, as have outside experts. https://www.vox.com/23910085/netanyahu-israel-right-hamas-gaza-war-history That sounds like a he said, she said. Those quotes as far I can see are no concrete as it's not taking it back to 2019, but to just recent articles.....

Or they where overconfidence and they didn't think something like this could happen. But rest assure they will do their investigation and if it's true then he will be condemn and go to jail. If not and it was just a fault of over self confidence, then things will change. And as far as that quote from 2019, I'm trying to find it but all i get is sketchy places.....You got one from a reputable sources?

That the leader of Israel knew and turn a blind eye. Basically that is what is saying, Netanyahu knew and so on. Sounds similar to the conspiracy theory of USA with Bush and all that stuff. Made for a great documentary back then the Fahrenheit 911 and stuff like that.

Sounds like conspiracy theory. Kind of of like of the USA with 911. Hey everyone can have their own opinion, but I don't agree with those conspiracy theory.

Israel shows Hamas bodycam attack footage to journalists The Israeli military held a screening for journalists on Monday of raw footage recovered from Hamas body cameras, in an effort to remind the world of the brutality of the attack on Israel two weeks ago. The bodycam footage, cut together with clips from CCTV, dashboard cameras and the mobile phones of both Hamas gunmen and victims, showed in stark detail the sheer horror visited on a music festival and family neighbourhoods in southern Israel. The Israeli military also released documents which they said were recovered from dead Hamas members, containing detailed operational planning and instructions for attacking the neighbourhoods and taking hostages. The 43 minutes of footage screened in Tel Aviv on Monday was distilled from hundreds of hours of footage collected since the attack, the Israeli military said. It contained clips of Hamas gunmen cheering with apparent joy as they shot civilians on the road, and later stalking the pathways of kibbutzim and killing parents and children in their homes. One traumatic sequence, taken from home cameras inside of a kibbutz, showed a father rushing his two young boys into an above ground shelter, seconds before Hamas attackers threw a grenade in, killing the father and wounding the boys. After the two boys, bloodied and in shock, had staggered back into their home screaming, a Hamas gunman calmly entered and looked through the fridge in front of them, pausing to take a drink before walking out again. One of the boys cried to his brother: "Daddy is dead, this is not a prank," and repeated "Why am I alive"? His brother was apparently blinded by the grenade. The military spokesman present was unable to say whether they survived. The film also contained an audio recording of one of the Hamas gunmen calling home to his parents in Gaza from the phone of a victim to boast that he had "killed at least 10 Jews with my bare hands". "Please open WhatsApp and look how many dead," he implored his parents repeatedly, apparently referring to pictures or video he had sent home showing the attack. "Your son killed so many Jews," he said. "Mum, your son is a hero." Another sequence showed one Hamas gunman shooting the apparently dead bodies of civilians inside a kibbutz in a celebratory manner, and an attempt to decapitate someone who appeared to be still alive using a garden hoe. The footage, some taken from mobile phones of victims, also showed the abject fear of those who hid in safe rooms and shelters as the sounds of gunfire and explosions came closer. The decision to screen the raw footage for journalists reflected an apparent frustration among senior ranks of the Israeli military that the media coverage of Hamas's brutal attack on 7 October had given way to coverage of Israel's air strikes against Gaza and the humanitarian crisis created by Israel's order for Gazans to migrate south. Speaking to the assembled international media after the screening, Major General Michael Edelstein, a former IDF Gaza division commander, said he had been "shocked" by the coverage. "We see that some of the channels are trying to compare what Israel is doing and what those vile terrorists are doing," General Edelstein said. "I cannot understand anyone who compares," he said. "And after what we have shared with you, you should know it." More than 1,400 Israelis have been killed since the Hamas attack on 7 October, according to Israeli authorities - the vast majority in the initial assault. More than 220 are believed to have been taken hostage inside Gaza. The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says more than 5,000 Palestinians have been killed since Israel's air strikes began in response, and according to the Palestinian health ministry in the occupied West Bank, 91 Palestinians have been killed there since 7 October. After the screening of the footage on Monday, a virtual reality experience was available, created using video from the first responders who entered family homes in the kibbutzim targeted by Hamas. The Israeli military also released two instruction manuals taken from dead Hamas gunmen, containing detailed plans for the attack and for taking hostages. "They must shoot down as many victims as possible, take hostages and take some of them to the Gaza Strip using various cars," said one part of the manual. In a separate document specifically about hostages, the Hamas operatives were instructed to "kill the problematic and those who pose a threat" and gather others together to use as "cannon fodder". Israel's military is still reeling from the 7 October attack, the worst breach of its defences in the south in 50 years. Despite huge resources being put into destroying Hamas tunnels and expanding Israel's security fence both below ground and out to sea, Hamas was able to storm and breach the fence in huge numbers. More than 1,000 militants crossed into Israel in the initial incursion, General Edelstein said on Monday. The first parts of the video compilation showed groups of pick-up trucks packed with Hamas gunmen, driving freely along Israeli highways and shooting civilians at will. The documents recovered from the bodies of the Hamas militants made it clear that Hamas "came with orders to slaughter and burn citizens", General Edelstein said. "They simply decided to burn families within their homes. And they took hostages alive, they were aiming to take children back into Gaza," he said. "Orders were there for how many to kill, how many to take as hostages. Orders were there to rape, all was written and ordered." Speaking before the screening, Israeli military spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari said that members of the military had debated whether to show the footage, but that he had decided personally to go ahead. "We understand already that we need to create a collective memory for the future," he said. "We will not let the world forget." https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67198270 …................................................................. Wow after seeing things like this it reminds me of USA and September 11. The country was mad and went into a dumb war that at the end we just left it worse. Seems like the same here. The Israeli are mad and won't be stopping for a while. It's sad because a lot of people that are innocent get caught in this. But just like with usa and Afghanistan, sadly this would last a while as well.

I think is the new trend. Ever since we gone to a goalkeeper that plays from behind. If you can name 5 Gk that was wc and playing from behind? They are not because the best GK in our history where not high priority for this. Cech was amazing but his ball distribution, I think Sanchez is way better at that. But besides ball distribution Cech was WC. Was Peter Smeichel or even Van De Sar great ball distribution? I think not and that is something we will have to continue to see, because that trend came with Pep and even then Pep had Valdez, maybe the best GK he had was Nuer, but not many who was good at ball distribution and WC at other areas.

Is not just hypocrisy on the US, but the entire world. No one wants to get in because of risking WW3. If people cared long ago they would have enter to help Ukraine but nooooo because they are scared of Putin. If people cared long ago they would have enter to help the people of Afghanistan that US left a black hole, but noooo because US fault and there is no interested for us in helping. And now here in the Israel. In the end it's the same everywhere. Not jus the US but the entire world, I mean that's why UN was created for? To coordinate with other countries so that each countries send their troops since UN don't have military. But here the world don't get in. So it's not just US, but the entire world. If the world wanted to get something done, long ago would have gotten it done. But fear of nuke wars and no vested interest is what drives the world to just talk and no action.

Sad to tie but I'm happy to see the progress the team is making.