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And you got this info from Hamas that also lies?

So who to believe? Both are lying?

I remember reading about a hospital bombing which Hamas accused Israel. Hamas Fails to Make Case That Israel Struck Hospital A senior Hamas official says “nothing is left” of the munition that hit the Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza City last week, killing hundreds. Israel says the explosion was caused by a misfired Palestinian rocket. Within an hour of the blast on Tuesday night, the Hamas-run Gazan health ministry accused Israel of attacking the Ahli Arab hospital, a medical center in Gaza City where scores of families had been sheltering. The allegation was soon denied by Israel but quickly accepted and amplified by Arab leaders across the Middle East, setting off unrest throughout the region. The claim was widely cited by international news outlets, including The New York Times, before Israel issued its denial. But in the days since, as new evidence contradicting the Hamas claim has emerged, the Gazan authorities have changed their story about the blast. Spokespeople have released death tolls varying from 500 to 833, before settling on 471. The Hamas-run health ministry has also declined to release further details about those 471 victims, and all traces of the munition have seemingly vanished from the site of the blast, making it impossible to assess its provenance. Raising further questions about Hamas’s claims, the impact site turned out to be the hospital parking lot, and not the hospital itself. On Sunday, Hamas turned down requests by The Times to view any available evidence of the munition it said had struck the hospital, claiming that it had disintegrated beyond recognition. “The missile has dissolved like salt in the water,” said Ghazi Hamad, a senior Hamas official, in a phone interview. “It’s vaporized. Nothing is left” But to Israelis, the accusation that Israel hit the hospital is part of a grand deception aimed at undermining the legitimacy of Israel’s response to what officials say was the deadliest single attack on Jews since the Holocaust. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/22/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-hospital-evidence.html As I have been saying for sometime we are being fed lies by the Hamas organization who let's not forget are terrorists. Now that is not to say that Israel are innocent, because in war ugly things happen. But this just another thing to be careful about every news that comes out of Hamas reports...

I think that is what the guy from espn mentioned. Why he was not excited with Chelsea 4-4 against man city is that we let in 4 goals despite drawing. Yes defense problem and coach keeps picking cucu and Sanchez.

Gary Neville was right. He is really good with his insight.

Take out cucu and ugu.

They have livramento and we have cucu... Would have save money if we kept him.

Left wing is the only case here in NYC, but it seems like some people are turning away from some beliefs. For example left wing is big on open borders. But now that you have those immigrants living in NYC and eating the money thus bringing budget cuts it's starting to change opinions.... Who would have thought that money would start changing some ideas......

In general but if that was true all the time why have in their TV three people taking time to discuss the love for the Iranian people? The video I posted for you and you dismissed right of the bat because it came out in fox News..... You can see the one asking the question was all feeling weird because as you said fox News is about hate, racism and all that stuff... But when confronted with truth that you have Iran the regime and Iran the people, it shocks them. And this was about those differences and how there's good people in Iran and see past the regime that exists there. That was the whole message of Joel Richardson documentary of sheep among wolfs, and to go and talk about in fox News is like a slap in the face to them.

Yes in the general they tend to be biased. But I will say that of many news outlet. So I can easily say CNN is left wing and any one who watches that is wrong. Likewise I can say fox news is right wing and anyone who watches is just a right winger. Guilty by association. Like what is happening in Iran, if you're a Christian you're infedel so they can rape you, beat you up, kill you etc etc. That's why I find it sad that anyone who brings a fox News is automatically label as right winger likewise CNN the opposite. Without even considering if it brings any valuable insight.

So your so close minded that everything that is Fox news is wrong. Yeah that is what wrong. Fox news says a lot of bad stuff that I don't agree likewise CNN, but there's some good stuff in both. But when hatred blinds you, everything is thrown out. And that is the message I been bringing and in what Joel Richardson and company has brought with their documentary of sheep among wolfs. That we shouldn't hate Islamic people because of the atrocities that Isis and Hamas do, but that their people, good people that don't represent this lot. Likewise with Jews. Sheep among wolfs is worth seeing, as how despite Iran is enemy of Israel there's a people in Iran that are different then what you see in the news.

But he is also for the Islamic people. They did a document of sheep among wolfs highlighting the difference between Iran the people and Iran regime. If he was hatred against the Iranians he would put all Iranians as bad. But he has shown that they are two different things and that people should never forget that. It's the same I have been saying. Just because Hamas is in Palestinian land we are not going to say Palestinians are all terrorists. There are good people who are different then the regime that is controlling the place. Likewise in Israel, not everyone wants war and killing, they want peace. And that was my original argument that is why I shared that video. You have the regime and you have the people, is two different things. They gave an interview on fox News exactly about this:

@Sir Mikel OBEby the way Joel Richardson put it rightly, if you back Palestinians to do terrorism against Israel just because they took their land then you should back native American to slaughter and do terrorism against Americans because we took their land. So Israel now lives their and they want to live in peace but it's surrounding by nations that wants to destroy them. Joel Richardson talking some sense in this video.

Well that's something else. Just like Qatar gave money to Hamas and they instead of helping their people they decided to spend it on rockets and tunnels for terrorism. You will always have this problem of where the money is going and how it's being used.

What land? Seriously you going there? lol Then Americans are the same as we took the land from the Native Americas. Australians are the same as they took it from the Aboriginals. and on and on. Ridicoules argument to be fair because we can go back until the beginning of the dawn of men and we would always be fighting this. In the end the point stand, it is racist saying all Germans are Nazi, saying all Palestinians are terrorist and all Jews are genocides.....

That is what I'm saying. It's like saying that during nazi regime are all nazi. Dumb statements as many Germans oppose nazi and got killed by the nazi. And that's what I'm saying that is happening, today you can't tell me all Palestinians are bad because they are Hamas..ludicrous statement. Like wise hating all jews just because they are jews and not realizing that they are for helping Palestinians. I mean look at this vandalizing just because they are jews: New York City Jewish bakery vandalized with spray-painted graffiti: 'Free Gaza' https://www.fox5ny.com/news/new-york-city-jewish-bakery-vandalized-with-spray-painted-graffiti-free-gaza

I think we will get more info about this in the coming weeks. Israel will have to provide more info about this in the coming months. Otherwise they will be in major trouble

That don't make sense there's no such thing. In Germany during the Nazi regime there where people against Nazi that helped Jews. They got killed as well by the Nazi. Same here there's liberal Jews that support Palestine and help them.

Protesters rally against New York City budget cuts outside City Hall https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-city-budget-cuts-protest-outside-city-hall/ LOL now new Yorkers are protesting the budget cut because of the immigrants using up a lot of the money. Like I always said liberals bash conservative about the borders closure and what not. But when you let them in and it's your city that has to help them then things change. It's all good the talk the talk but can you walk the walk?

Budget Cuts Hit Preschools, Cops, Libraries as Mayor Blames Migrants https://www.thecity.nyc/2023/11/16/budget-cuts-hit-city-hall-blames-migrant-crisis/ I wonder if NYC is going to change their posture about immigrants? People can be liberal and all that stuff but when it comes to putting your money where your mouth is its something different. These are the sacrifice that needs to be made to help immigrant.

Was making a comment into how they talked that Israel see Palestinian as less then human. But that is not true you have people that help Palestinian. And ironically they where kill by those same Palestinian they was protecting.... This comes to my point that not matter what side you are the hatred will always be there. Look at how in other countries people look to beat up Jews, just because they are Jews. NOT caring if they are pro Palestinian, and vice versa.

So nothing new, just throwing dirt during a international break as per usual to bring our momentum down.

What I'm told actually that the people that Hamas killed where the pro Palestinians. The one who would help the Palestinians get them to hospital and what not. And that was for two state solution. What a pity that Hamas killed the Israel that was for them if this is true.

Malo Gusto has not had the impact as the others. Now that I'm thinking I'm analyzing who we sold this summer and who we replace. We got rid of Mount and Kai. I would think Palmer took the spot of Mount and in that case amazing upgrade. Kai I'm not sure who would take his spot, Nkunku? Because of Nkunku injury we would leave this as mute for now. And Jackson we had not striker so he really takes no one spot....well we did had Lukaku and Werner, so I assumer he takes one of those spot. For Lukaku awesome upgrade, for Werner.....I still love Werner despite not being a great hit. So I will put it as an upgrade for Lukaku. Who else we sold to upgrade their position? As I start to think we have done amazing in term of buys. Cucu even though improve I would still sell, not sold on him. Good he is doing fine, so we can get teams interested in him. Maatsen disappointed in him, I guess he would be sold this January. And Madueke so far he has been underwhelming. Not sure if he would amount to something great. Chalobah another one to go if any teams will take him, and Fofana, what a pity.

Chelsea FC face new questions over how Roman Abramovich funded success Leaked files reveal secret payments that may have breached football’s strict ‘financial fair play’ rules https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/15/Chelsea-fc-face-new-questions-over-how-roman-abramovich-funded-success Looks like we are going to have some point deductions coming.