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And during that week his biggest change has been defrosting Mikel. He is playing teams that can only draw when we need to win at any cost, if that is his aim then well done we are firmly on track of averaging a point per game. Let's hope that's enough to avoid relegation. But I've seen progress too - RLC got his big career-advancing academy day against United, that's better than what Jose could offer.

Good news!

I'm beyond caring at this point tbh... predicted 0-0 to my united fan coworker before the game, more pleased with the correct prediction than the flaccid point.

Not an excuse for me. There were rumours for a long time that he'd be the interim so he knew, he had time to watch games and analyze. There is no excuse to keep playing Ivanovic/Azpilicueta at the positions they are playing, none.

Can somebody explain why we fired Jose just to bring in another coach who plays the same turds who got us in this mess?

Not a chance. He is our best CB.

I will be fucking fuming if he suddenly starts playing youth and offensive interesting football at United. Instead I hope he converts Phil Jones to RB and plays Rooney each game every minute. Fellaini should become an untouchable due to his height. I hope he fucks them up as bad as he did with us.

Fair enough :tophat:

So you're blaming even your gambling habit on Jose?

Source?

As much as I hate to say it, leaving chelsea would be best for his career.

The only real argument they bring forward is the number of trophies he's won. I have never really heard any of them talking about the bigger picture, analyzing in depth or whatnot... it's all only about trophies.

No word on his tactical and line-up decisions, no? Didn't think so.

Pretty much, although Pedro could replace Oscar and Terry for Cahill in that line-up. Baba might replace Azpi. But other than that, this is what we'll see.

If it's true, they should be worried about their own quality.

So by that logic last season was all players as well? You can't give Mourinho any credit for last season if you don't give him blame for this. For all the brilliant points brought up in this topic, I can't believe there are still people who don't see any fault in Jose.

What has he done wrong in the eyes of the guys slagging him off here? Chelsea have offered him several contracts to stay, managers have regularly selected him in match day squads for the past.. 9 years is it? Or are you putting him in the same bracket as Bogarde?

Lighten up people, it's Sunderland at home, we might actually win. We are due our solitary W this month, this might be it. Watford will be more difficult and United away nearly impossible despite their injury woes, so we must grab all three here to keep the spectacular run of one win a month going. Prediction: 1-0 Chels, scorer O.G. Somewhere in parallel universe where I am the manager, this is the team going to be put out: Courtois Azpi - Zouma - Cahill - Baba Cheeks - Mikel - Ramires Willian - Remy - Kenedy

If Jose remains the big question is can we trust him with rebuilding the squad though? I mean look at us now and look at the players we have let go. Those transfer moves don't seem like of someone who knows what he's doing, but in Jose's defence a big chunk of blame can be put on the board because I'm quite sure Jose never wanted such a thin squad. I'm certain he would absolutely LOVE to have viable options to replace some of the underperformers, but our squad is very thin and lacking quality options. However, when he did have a larger squad with better options, his handling of those players was simply abysmal, so the blame is still shared here. I still have blind hope that Mourinho can come good and become our undisputed boss who drives us forward, develops proper playing style and promotes youth, but I just can't see it happening anymore

So I can't voice my disagreement? What is the forum for then?

So you are saying Mourinho completely slammed the players to protect them? Did you watch the post-match interview? He said players betrayed him to protect them from the media? Newspapers are writing about him because it gets more clicks, always have and always will. There have been plenty of stories about how shit the players have been too, you just choose to neglect them and think that everything Jose says is some kind of brilliant mind game. Your fascination with him is becoming embarrassing. This season has proved that Mourinho isn't all that, in fact it's clear as day he has very little control left now and he's speaking out of emotions, not some calculated masterplan to uplift the players.

You just have to look at Remy to get an idea why players are falling out with Mourinho. Last season he said it was his mistake he didn't play Remy more when he deserved, this season it's even worse. Losing trust in the manager. He is used only when chasing a game, if lucky. Why should he give a damn anymore?

Tbf not many teams have gone to Leicester and picked up points. It was always going to be a long shot for us. What bums me the most is that we have sunk to a level where we basically have stopped hoping for anything, performances like that don't encourage much faith anymore - it's mid December! Improvement has been marginal, not sufficient. Also, when you have inconsistent players like Oscar, Fabregas, Ramires and Matic playing in key positions, you will get inconsistent team performances. Our midfield is flat out useless no matter how you combine the personnel. We need a leader there! We have no damn leaders above the defensive line and it shows. Everybody is acting on wrong instincts, there is no one in there to tell them what the fuck they should or should not be doing. Mourinho can only do so much when not involved in the game himself. He insinuated that by saying the players are not doing in games what they are doing in training. This is depressing, I think it's beyond repair if those players and Mourinho continue together, neither is responding to each other. And they just won the title together, the bond should be there.. but it is not for reasons unexplainable. Bold decisions need to be made at the top, the minions below are destroying the club.

Called it