OneMoSalah

I dont think thats necessarily true. Sure Neymar, Tevez, Icardi to name a few and theres maybe others that have had bad press but I dont think that they are any more difficult to handle than any other group of players. Its largely down to attitude.

I dont think there are many realistic English players we can go and get except maybe Chillwell, Jadon Sancho and possibly Declan Rice (although not sure he is at the required level like youve said). Sure theres other good English players but we will never get Kane or Sterling or Joe Gomez or whoever else. Weve got a good number of young English players to be honest, Reece James, Callum Hudson Odoi, Ruben Loftus Cheek, Tammy Abraham, Mason Mount... throw in Ross Barkley as well although I am unsure where he lies here in the long run and hes not exactly young so to speak. I dont think we need to have like neccessarily 10 or more English players in the squad plus the value for money for English players definitely isnt there and the calibre of players from other European/South American players is much better I feel. The additions have to be the right ones.

We must of watched different games then. Norwich played through us but its more tactical and a collective problem as we seem to press in a group of 4 or 5 with 5 behind the ball as opposed to as a team. Thats why the spaces are too big. 4 or 5 go and then theres lots of room for teams to utilize and youve basically got Jorginho and Kovacic, who both arent amazingly defensively but again arent exactly piss poor, trying to defend in a situation where they will be outnumbered or isolated more than often. If you want your team to be progressive and dominate the ball, Jorginho is an essential out of squad. Thats why I dont get why you are insistent on dropping him. Last season was the same, it was a collective issue than individuals with regards to defending and pressing.

Played a lot better today I think. We have to be careful though he has a lot of work to do still but 2 goals will give him a huge confidence boost.

Perhaps but we need pace on both sides to stretch teams and be more effective in offensive transitions, Mason is quickish but not as fast as you'd want a winger to be. Also Willian, despite his huge inconsistency and lack of end product is probably better going the otherway when we drop into a shape out of possession. We do need to upgrade on him but I think Lamps already has a preference of using Ross and Mason ahead of him even if it means shoehorning them in the team which hasnt really been a success so far for me but I would expect that to change when Callum is ready. Its a work in progress and I think a striker, a wide player (Pedro replacement) and left back will be the top 3 positions we look to strengthen when our transfer ban is done.

Is this a joke? How many times did he pick the ball up and play a 20 or 30m pass outwide, through the lines or directly to the frontman today? Kovacic doesnt do it enough. In a game where your going to have all off the ball Jorginho is essential. He wasnt all that bad defensively for me its more a collective issue than individuals.

Yeah far too many touches after getting in promising areas. Hopefully we go back to a 3 man midfield as opposed to 2 screening and one more advances think it suits everyone better. Particularly Ruben who although I think he can play as a 10 but like Tomo said in a thread when we discussed it, his drivings run from there slightly more deeper are very effective. Still dont get why he never put Willian in on the wing ahead of using Ross and shifting Mason outwide but hey ho not the first time FL has used 2 10s in that 3 and it hasn't exactly worked too well.

Still think people talking about VAR is pointless, it will take time to get it right as its the first season with it and it wasnt the most concerning thing today. Our defending and organisation as a team was. Again.

Dont know what to make of this game but if we keep defending like we have since pre season (exept the Liverpool game) then we might not even make the top 6 and thats being brutually honest. Dont think bar 2 games under Sarri (Man City and Bournemouth) have we looked so disorganized and easy to score against. Fair enough Lamps is learning on the job and still needs time but he wont get that luxury if we cant beat teams such as Leicester at home or Norwich away convincingly. 2 academy players scoring today maybe the only positive so far.

100% agree. I dont think anybody on here can say shes shit at her job because she negotiated deals for "players she wanted ie Bakayoki, Drinkwater, Morata, player X or Y whoever"... I mean wtf people clutching at straws. She doesnt pick the players we sign for fuck sake. If anyone is doubting this, then they should seriously look at what her job title is because I am certain it is Chief Executive. Not technical director or director of football. Okay, she negotiates the deals for them, contracts for existing players, sponsorships etc but she doesnt go and pick players personally or she would be a scout/technical director not a business woman. Okay maybe she has negotiated bad deals for us both ways and maybe the majority of ones from say the last 2 or 3 seasons the most of the players who came in, which she negotiated with clubs and players for contracts/wages, havent been great. She could be doing better but if anyone thinks shes sitting going okay who can I sign for Chelsea next without any input from anyone in a footballing capacity or with huge footballing knowledge then they need their head checked. I mean fair enough Ive been critical of her at times but not for signing Morata or Bakayoko or whoever because while she closed the deal, she didnt decide to go after them players herself. They were obviously players the club had been scouting where they will go through some evaluation process and eventually end up on a list of potential targets regardless of availability or the feeling the club can make the deal happen like I am sure happens at most clubs.

Kasey Palmer? Skills could have been useful for Chelsea's first team? Right whos been on the joints. He is below average and I think leaving is the best thing for him. No disrespect to him but he wasnt or hasnt been at the level needed to try and break in.

I think he'd be wasted in the 2 deeper positions though. I really do. Think we've either got to go 433 and use him with Jorgi and Kante or play him as a 10. He got a good amount of goals last season by getting in and around the box. Yes he can still do that in the 2 but hes more attack minded, I really hope he plays more advanced.

Depends. For that amount of money, if true (not just him, any footballer under the age of 20 coming in and getting a 52m 5 year deal) it means we have every right to expect a lot from him despite his age. Normally young players you can make an exception as they dip and are learning but still if it is that figure, 10.4m a year before tax, 200k a week... its going to raise expectations.

Too much money but still, not signed. Almost September now.... there was obviously much more than just "game time" in regards to his decision or it would of been tied up by now I think. But hey ho, its looking more and more likely I suppose. Sooner the better.

Wrong place for him to be. He needs to get shot of his wife as an agent at the very least. People have complicated relationships all over not just footballers but making his wife being his agent, as well as all the things before and all the things that have followed that have ultimately led to all the top clubs in the world avoiding him in my view. The whole Maxi Lopez-Wanda thing is unsavoury and not very nice but this sort of shit happens all over, marriages break down due to cheating or other circumstances, in the public eye and not in the public eye. Not saying that its right though and for a young boy (the age he was at the time) to have disrespected someone who again, made a lot of effort with him to help him fit in etc, is disgusting. . The guy has fucked his career though. Had huge potential, was captain of Inter, their talisman and now say 2 years later they've signed an excellent coach (who took Tevez after all the shit he pulled at Man City may I add) and he has backed the clubs stance without even regarding how good he could be for his team (think on his best form, he'd be a shoe in for many top teams in Europe), signed Lukkaku and stripped Icardi of the number 9 shirt. If his career continues to deteriorate so to speak, I bet that Wanda will be off like a shot as well. He will have made his fair bit of coin yes but a football career is short and he will look back on it and realise something had to give. He was talked about being a potential Barca/Real signing say 3 years ago.... now theres the talk hes maybe going to Monaco (not a bad place to live perhaps and a good club nonetheless) but its a waste of potential. Juventus and Napoli links for me are odd, both likely won't touch him with a barge pole despite the obvious lure of his ability and potential purely based on who they'd have to deal with before even getting him in the door. I mean people think Raiola is a fucking nightmare but some of the things that his wife seems to have pulled makes him look like a saint. Imagine somebody, who is also your team mate/captains wife having the fucking audacity to claim Inter don't support him etc? After making him their captain?

Have to agree. Plus it was zonal marking v someone on the move, so they automatically will always have the advantage so its not a mistake as such more a issue with setting up zonally to defend corners. Perhaps but a free man with a run on anybody yet alone someone two or three inches smaller with not as great a leap, is always going to have the advantage. Zonal marking is terrible. Fair enough its so common these days practically all the big teams do it but you can get the mix right, some zonal markers and then man to man following the bigger threats. As Cole stated in the interview regarding the body shape, yeah, hes right to an extent but if it was man to man and he had a chance to run and attack the ball like Ndidi did he'd of been a lot lot closer. Still think his performances have dipped a lot but you also have to consider that under Sarri and also with Frank so far, the teams really exposed and this has given United and Leicester huge chances to counter attack which has led to chances, corners, goals etc. Its maybe as many have alluded to, the shape and getting caught on the ball when we are further up field, not just individual errors (although Azpi hasn't been great for a lot of the goals this season when Frank has said about 4 mistakes v United I think he was wrong to just say that, the gaps between midfield and defence were the reason why these players got into these spaces to have these opportunities). His pace has never been outstanding and while I am excited to see Reece get a chance, I don't think Reece James will come in and fair a lot lot better as many predict as he will need time to get upto speed with the level and higher standard. Its going to take a lot of work to prevent being in positions where the teams very open and players can isolate Azpi or Emerson or Zouma or whoever. You give a player such as Martial or Rashford, who are so quick and good at dribbling all the space in the world or basically a free hit to run at players, they will beat them more often than not. If we stop conceding these counter attack scenarios we will eliminate half the issue. His concentration worries me more than his actual ability to defend, you can be the best defender in the world but if you switch off at the wrong moment... it doesn't matter how good you are.

Must admit, despite Cascarino talking nonsense some of the time, this is a more valid comparison than saying Pulisic is like Hazard. I can see his acceleration and directness being a huge tool for us this next however many years. His final ball hasn't been as bad as I thought it would of been too so thats also a plus. He showed v Liverpool he can also affect the game in the final third setting up Giroud and scoring a great goal that got ruled out for offside. Wouldnt go as far as saying I was expecting a great first season but the early signs are indicate there are good things to come from this guy.

I dont think there is a better GK except maybe Ederson in terms of distribution in the PL. Long pass, short pass, left foot, right foot... he is very good. Shot stopping is also very good, obviously. Does anybody else think hes maybe put a bit more muscle mass on this season. Or am I blind.

But it was the same in pre-season and really the defensive structure of the whole team hasnt drastically changed bar the Liverpool performance. Yes we are only say 10 games (including pre-season) into Lampard's tenure so this could come as premature but I am a bit concerned with how we concede so many chances and look so bad defending set plays. For me, it is similar to how Andre Villas Boas' team got on defensively. Couldnt stop conceding chances from open play, unorganised at set plays and eventually goals started going in and it was a matter of could Chelsea get back into the game. Without an improvement defensively as a team (although I think AC-Zouma both played decent today as a pairing but I mean as a whole from front to back) and seeing as we lack a top striker to bail us out, we could potentially end up dropping points. As for the attacking play, yeah it is good and exciting at times as well as the high press but there were also elements again in some of our games very similar to how we played under Sarri at times, very congested in middle. We also arent as composed in some phases of the game as we could be and that is also resulting in us turning the ball over and getting done on transitions far too often. Again with time, like the defensive structure, I really hope it improves. I have seen a lot of positives so far with Frank, the high press when it works is really good (example first 15 mins today), as well as the more direct attacking play (although still gets congested at times) and obviously trying to integrate the academy kids. I was apprehensive about his appointment and still think theres been alarms like I said similar to Villas-Boas' team defensively and for me, most good teams are built on a good defensive structure and shape. Liverpool, Spurs and City without the ball, press from the front. Theyve all bought into it and the distances are good, then if they dont win it they drop back in and are organised. We used to be very organised under Jose and Conte, being able to grind out results. Man United with Fergie as well could grind games out if they werent playing great. Basically if you cant keep goals out from set plays or concede too many big chances (think of Brendans Liverpool team that finished 2nd), your going to have to end up scoring 3 or 4 goals every game. Teams that have to score 3 or 4 goals a game because they cant keep a clean sheet dont traditionally win leagues or cups. Its probably easier to keep clean sheets than need to score 3 or 4 goals a game.

Not as easy as that. In all realism we should of walked all over Leicester (as far behind the other teams going for top 4 we are better than them still in my eyes) in all probability but didnt do it. We could have an off day or they play a blinder. They can threaten teams, Newcastle spent big money on a few good players and Norwich played them off the park playing good attacking football. Fair enough we aren't Newcastle but the circumstances can change if we play very poorly or dont match their work rate etc. Stranger things have happened. Pukki is interesting though, never did much at Celtic up in Scotland yet hes scored say however many goals in the last 2 years as well as 4 goals in 2 games in the PL. Their full backs are young talented boys as well who can affect the game in the final third.

Teemu Pukki and their attacking fullbacks will be an issue. Will be an interesting game and plenty of goals.

He needs to do a lot of work. He has got pace, height and has shown he can score goals in the Championship but for someone who scored 30 goals last season, to have not made easy movements in the box/being caught on his heels in the last 3 games when the balls been put there, is just ridiculous and in my eyes also quite lazy. That is purely instinct, all the top strikers which is what he has to aspire to be as we are a huge club, make those runs without fail, even if the ball doesn't come to them. That's probably where you see the likes of Aguero scoring the majority of his goals from, between the 6 yard box and penalty spot. How often is Aguero caught on his heels when a ball is played in the box?

I get the feeling he will be like Sarri and Conte with his system too. Like for like swaps. Rigid with his system. To be fair we started very well. Took the initiative, hassled them high up, had some bright moments, good tempo. Personally I think the 120 minutes during the week hasn't helped but Frank would of been aware not everyone was as fresh as they could of been but still he has got options. Willian if hes fit enough to come on when he did surely was fit enough to start. Tammy or Michy could have started although Giroud did alright first half. Tomori could have played. Alonso could have played. He didn't have to go mental and make 10 changes but he has enough in some areas to make 2 or 3. I felt that Mount should of been subbed out for Ross in the 2nd half, he faded out of the game a bit and looked very tired.

Might be the shot in the arm we need, we've been meh so far this second half, just like towards the end of the first half after a blistering start. Need to go back to hunting the ball back higher up the pitch. Zonal marking is shite, man to man marking and Zouma would have a run and definitely make that header.

Really impressed with Emerson today. First few games hes been very good. Jorginho also very good.