didierforever

hmmm!!! maybe!!! not sure. he definitely is not a wonderkid, and we dont want him THAT BADLY. 20 mil or at max 25 mil has to be the limit. but he is really good. pogba-rambo pivot would be phenomenol.

pay them what they demand. mikel+5/10mil. or 15-20mil.

and how did u get to that conclusion?

negredo has been a real suprise. i mean specially with jovetic just bought, aguero and dzeko already in the team, i thought he would be a 25mil bench warmer mostly. but so far, amongst all the 6 "big" clubs (us, manchesters, spuds, arse and pool), he has got to be the best buy so far (ozil included).

sign him up!!!!! NOW!!!

i thought u would like it, since u like suarez so much!!!

totally agree with what is said by "mufassir". wba have some really good options and josh would add nothing to them. only PL team midfield he ll be able to break in would be palace.

best of luck in life.

torres is wishful thinking. i dont think he ll go. but not so sure about mikel. specially if we buy a world class DM. i mean then we will have rambo, mvg, romeu, josh, essien, chalobah, and bender/witsel/gundogan. mikel himself might see that he wont be getting the oppurtunities and might want to leave.

did he use his hand? was is intentional (like suarez when he stopped the ball against ghana). it was accidental. an accidental touch. and for that u called ba a cheat, and said he assisted by "cheating". so what am i supposed to think?? the ball touched his hand, but there was no whistle, hence he played on. for THAT u called him a cheat, so what is the only other think he could have done, for u to not call him a cheat? i am not putting words into your mouth, i am just extrapolating your explanations which when seen from the other point of view, seems (in the least) bizarre. the attitude that can actually weaken a team is that u r blasting a player, who starts after a month, plays well, infact was our most potent threat in the first half, and is still ridiculed. i think ba is better than suarez FOR CHELSEA, because i cant fathom the dressing wars and splits when an egoistic, diving, cheating, cannibal like suarez joins CFC.

buy another one, hopefully he ll go then...

wait,which one of them plays for chelsea who are a european giant in a european trophy while the other "gifted footballer" plays for a mid-table team who came what 7/8th last season in PL. saying that we "cheated" for the first goal is childish, senile and downright stupid. and using this as an example to say that our players are "saints or not" is rubbish. i mean a player gets a favorable decision but he should stop the game and give the ball back? is that what u want? no one here is being inconsistent, except for u who are making a mountain out of a mole-hill.

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and i have said again and again that he was our most potent threat on that day. so how was his performance not good? on the other hand u are taking a handball totally out of context. i dont think any of the norwich players complained even after we scored. should tell u how minimum the contact was. so the "blatant handball" argument is BS. i seriously think u need to know the meaning of cheating before accusing any1. ba did not cheat. he got a favorable decision. wait, why am i even replyin to somethin as silly as this. the person who thinks ba and suarez are guilty at the same level, definitely has some issues. i mean a person who does not know the difference between going down easily and diving, unfair decision and blantant cheating... goes on to show many things. u should be sorry to bring up ba and suarez in the same sentence. because one of them is a good human, while the other is a cannibal.

biting a player, delibrately diving , calling a person racist names is equivalent to getting one decision? so are norwich defenders cheats when ba dint get the penalty? or is chicha a cheat for not saying that he was offside when he scored the winner against us in 3-2 defeat. what happened on saturday is a part and parcel of the game. some "decisions" go your way, others dont. but getting a decision is one thing and doing things like suarez does is completely different. how can you even compare these two things? i mean what did ba "get away with"? one favourable decision is very different when compared to simulating, and thats what suarez does.

fair enough. so?

an assist, two decent chances (by rudy mistakes), one chance misses by ba on mata-thru and one on rambo low cross. i would say the strat was very fine but the execution was not. that is true. jose made the game open with bringing hazard and etoo on for cole and ba. thus enticing norwich to go for the kill. but just for the sake of it, etoo had no role for the goals. even for the 3rd one, he should have passed the ball wide to willian rather than trying to take 3 men on.

false 9 is played in a number of ways. what jose wanted is pace upfront. he wanted united to commit their fullbacks (which they normanlly do) and then us to hit them hard on the counter. add to it rio's pace and u have a decent plan but we were poor on the day and united simply dint commit for the win. no need to re-iterate. we all know the need and the want of a good striker.

u do what is best for the team. not for the investments. plus we would be tweaking our set-up. the games will still be controlled by our AMs. the team may not be scoring more goals as all this is hypothetical, but the last balls will be falling on the feet of the best goal-scorer in the team. so the probabilty increases that much more. right now, i would say RAMBO is our best finisher or rather someone i would like a 1v1 fall to. goes on to say a lot about our ST and CAMs i think u forgot everton and norwich among them too. dint u? at goodison park and carrow road they are a tough nut to crack. and by the way these will be the level of teams we will be playing against normally. infact everton's organization in goodison park might be one of the top10. 42 chances!!!!! what chances??? i have seen every united match. all i can say is welbeck missed a sitter against us, rvp missed one against sunderlan, and a couple against leverkusen but apart from that, i cant think of any sure-shot chances. if u think rvp putting his shoes thru a cross directed from young and valencia becomes a chance than i simply cant argue with that. compare that with the etoo chance or ba chance (rambo low cross) and u will know the difference.

taking up the striker role in an unorthodox manner - points a lot to false 9. as for the 2nd part - dint get it??? i said they wont be better target men than OUR strikers so why the comparision with these strikers?

we have done that in the most important match we have played so far, UNITED AWAY. when jose dint trust ba, torres or lukaku to be a better option upfront than schurlle. but again, the point comes back to would those AMs be better targetmen than our strikers?

so roman will fire jose if he plays long ball? i dont get the point u r trying to make. jose is using the players we have which (which have changed for the strong and bullish of the likes of ballack to mazacar). he is accomadating them the best he feels. and yes, that will take some time. but in the meantime he has to deliver the right results. because i dont think a trophy less year, but good football year would guarantee jose's job next year. but the vice-versa almost certainly does. there was not much irony. ba was our biggest threat when norwich were defending deep. the 2 chances he had when he hustles ruddy, the mata thru ball that he could not convert, the rambo low cross. u cant say it dint work because in the end, even our first goal came from a long ball, which ba won and put it in the path of oscar. as for the goal no.2 and 3, i can see why jose did that. norwich were no longer the defendors, in fact they were the aggresors. the game had become very open and more sutied to etoo/torres' style of play than ba's. so it was not much of a suprise with what happened. again, i am in no longer saying that ba is good enough. i would have preferred lukaku myself. i mean watch his hold-up play for everton, its just brilliant. but with the options we have, ba is the best for it.

oh dear!!! and do u think we would play this system even with an awesome target man ahead like rvp, cavani or falcao? do u think jose would say things like "i dont know why ivanovic was putting crosses into the box because i dont think DD plays for us!!!" we are playing in this system because jose knows that right now our AMs are a bigger threat than our strikers. he knows the limitations and constraints of all our strikers and is trying to use them in the best way we can. to say that we would have been playing the same way with a World Class ST and targetman upfront is ridiculous. i mean even for a moment u think we would play exactly the same way if we had DD in his prime upfront. NO WAY. we would be playing something like how BVB plays. the striker wont just have a role of creating space for AMs (which good ST anyways do for other players thru their movement) but also be a worthy outlet for our AMs. ps - all u need to do is watch our last season's away defeat to WBA. for 60 odd minutes, we had no chances. our only goal came from a hazard freak header. but as soon as rdm changed sturridge from the right wing to the striker position and brought mata on for torres, sturridge had 3 1v1 which had a lot to do with his off the ball movement and his movement to run behind the defence. and that is what will happen with a good striker. we will become far more direct and way more threatening. (like i said before, just like BVB). also those stats about conversion rate, tell me how many of those were clear-cut chances like the ones, etoo had against everton and bucuresti, ba had against norwich or torres had against swindon. falcao/cavani take a number of shots from outside the box, and play a lot of percentages with their runs and headers and shots from crosses. but give them the chances, that our strikers have had and they will convert 9 out of 10 of those chances.

no one needs to be told that ba is not good enough. he was a stop gap that we bought to plug a hole. we wanted to loan him out and that speaks a lot. but let us look at our options. is torres good enough? hell no. why is he still here - because roman and the board are unwilling to accept the 50 mil pounds shambles he was. is etoo good enought? definitely no. why is he here - because we could not get falcao, cavani and rooney and he was the only one close to good enough, ex WC player that we was available in the market, that too for free. looking at our options, while accepting that ba is not good enough, i would still say ba is the best of our options. so far he has not had any problems with his knees for us, and even if he does, we would not moan twice about it. going to the ground or not, he wins us balls in the air. luiz canot play out of the defence all the time. watch how van wolveswinkel kept biting at his ankle, because teams know we dont have a way out except for luiz. so their is not much of ball retention for us without ba. as for roman - he can want what he wants, but right now the the manager is JOSE and even for a second i wont believe that jose would have made it completely clear to roman that he would want total control of this team.

how are you saying that??? most strikers in the world are deadly when u put the ball into the box, the likes of falcao, cavani, ibra, but our strikers dont even fight for those half balls. they dont put the defence under that minimum pressure to fluff their clearances or make a mistake. ba did that against norwich that is the reason he had so many chances. twice he made rudy make a mistake. torres and etoo dont and simply cant hustle the defenders. so a whole dimension of attack is lot to us when playing with out current STs because we simply cant cross the ball into the box. the movement of our strikers is decent specially etoo, but half the times he simply cant get the ball off his feet. that one second is all that professional defenders need to cover it up. and thats the difference between WC strikers and our current crop. i mean how many of united's goal scored by rvp and rooney combined are tap-ins. they have scored from 50-50 oppurtunities (rooney FKs, rvp over the head goals) rather than scoring bare tap ins. as for the majority of chances, they are getting it. telling me the no. of sure shot goal opportunities missed by all our AMs and compare it to the ones missed by the STs. our AMs are doing the things that are STs are supposed to do. they have to create as well as score. double-pressure. i mean the oscar goal against norwich was a half chance or lamps goal against bucuresti was a half-chance but not the ones our STs have been missing.