didierforever

even after i PROVED it. your account, your name, your post!!! just cant find where we had the argument over this thing. still remember it was after the norwich game where the report that jose went ballistic on salah and matic had come out with him also saying that oscar has not been upto the mark in the 2nd half of the season and hazard should start sacrificing for the team in a PC after a couple of days. thats when i got to see those golden words from u!!! ENJOY!!!

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/14112-11-oscar/?p=898987 and there is a lot more where this came from!!!

probably the only thing that would make sense. 2 man mid with fiberglass is suicide.

^THIS!!! how is it that no one is still questioning his other side of the work!!!

atlast some good news!!!

believe me when I say this, this post is not just another "I hate cesc" post but a genuine one. Barca were playing quite well until messi came back. Cunt was an integral part of that playing in the false 9 position. But since messi came back and he had to be dropped back to midfield, fabregas was POOR. the same problems of teams defending deep was encountered by barca and they had failed despite having technically superior players and plays. I remember a game against granda(I think where barca lost 1-0 without creating a decent chance), a match against sociedad where their mid was hopelessly over run, the 2nd last match of the season where they could not break down elche. And this happened quite a lot of times this season (I think even vallodolid, and espanyol though they won that derby on a messi pen). Infact I would be very interested in seeing how many matches we went without scoring and how many barca went without scoring. I just think people are as usual over exaggerating the qualities of a transfer target. edit - barca went without scoring a goal 6 times in the league. chelsea went 8 times but that 8 had 2 matches against arsenal (away) and united(away) where we were set up to get a 0-0. the rest were everton (etoo's dreadful miss), newcastle (piss poor performance from everyone), whu (39 shots??? a decent striker and we would have walked the game), villa and palace (2 games where u can actually say we lacked a DLP), norwich (number of half chances missed). so just by having a striker we could have averted 3/4 of those defeats/draws!!!

Atleast I don't think our manager has an agenda behind his every move. Oscar, hazard still here. How is that working out for u?? They were going to be sold, right?

If jose comes out and says that cesc is the man for us, I will join the bandwagon of supporting him (feel like puking even writing about it) cos he will be a chelsea player. I did that with torres till the club world cup final after which I just lost all hope. But right now, there is NOTHING concrete. Not one thing. The cunt is in London for shooting an ad (that's what I heard) but that is turned into a transer circus. So unless there is anything concrete, I will not believe this. These were the same sources that had signed falcai/cavani/hulk for us last season.

Precisely. You can't compare his role at arsenal with this one as the systems are very very different. People are looking at it in a very 1-D way thinking solely about the attacking part and he does fit the bill there, but I really doubt he ia good enough defensively. The workrate, the organization, these are not things u associate with this guy. The next part is his DNA. Its arsenal, its barca buts its definitely not chelsea. He is anything but BLUE!!!! PS- I am angry. If there is one player in the world that I would NEVER have wanted to see in chelsea blue, it was this cunt! I am still not buying into us being interested in him. It simply can't be. I am just gonna stay away from this thread for a while.

do even u believe that our second pivot player wont have to do the dirty work!!! its like saying modric does not do the dirty work, only alonso does that in RM. this is not arsenal. jose will make sure of that!!! from him the defense of the team has always come first. a solid system is the basic ground work of his successes. the cunt wont be the "playmaker" in the team. heck, even oscar is not the play maker and does a lot of dirtywork.

he can play the deeper role??? he was average in the 3 man barca mid. his best position was behind the striker or the false 9. think about playing in a 2 man pivot and doing the dirty work.

there is more to it!!!. jose and the board should have kept kdb (even though he clearly dint fit the system) cos what if he gets the sack!!! i mean from today onwards jose should take all his decision thinking "how will it affect the club when i get sacked" serious at some posters!!!

talk about pointless discussions. i was trying to have one with 2 posters who think that JOSE and the board are on a "destroy CHelsea" campaign and any and every decision from them is wrong!!! at my myopic view again, KDB flourishing would be good for him. maybe after leaving us kakuta does become the "next pele" but this is chelsea where chances are hard to come by and when u do get a chance u have to flourysh, kdb dint!!! so goodbye!!!

bookies got it wrong with hulk, cavani, falcao and at one point even ronney.

oh what a reply!!! brilliant!!! :ignore:

how? he was bought for 5-6mil and sold for more than thrice that price. add to that the fact that we already replaced kdb with salah and yet were in a profit of 2-3 mil. financially it cant be a mistake in terms of the player. kdb was not going to be a CAM for jose. he was behind oscar, willian and mata in that aspect. he was our 3rd choice LM (behind schurrle and hazard) and 3rd choice RW (behind willian and mata). even if u look at the stats. kdb got 5 starts (hull, united, swindon, arsenal, sunderland) and was poor to average in terms of play and had just 1 assist. salah started 6 matches (stoke, swansea, sunderland,pool, norwich and cardiff), he had 2 goals and 2 assists despite his finishing being hopelessly poor. he could have had a hattrick against swansea and cardiff. salah in his short while here has shown that he is willing to fight for his place. he is willing to grind it out. kdb in his performances was poor. never looked like fighting. he may turn out to be one of the best players or a ballon d'or, but at chelsea he would have had been successful. selling kdb was right for the club and the player.

hahahhahaha... by saying what? that selling kdb is a mistake? according to what? your imaginary bushman's football world!!! oh wait... he made a thru ball so selling him was a mistake.

so according to some we are buying the whole ATM!!! also an argument is where both sides have a point!!! bushy almost nevr does!!!

whose the babe?

lambert to pool. 5mil. decent back-up signing.

sure i will... in the same one where kdb thulps!!!

i have got better things to do!!! but u keep on cribbing about kdb cos he made a thru ball. u know kalou was the 2nd highest scorer in french league this year. damn... we should never have let him go. :lol:

learn to read dude. but sure it was a mistake selling the genius that kdb is!!! OMG!!! ballon d'or next year?

and when did i say he was given a "proper chance" at people trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. here are all of my comments " selling kdb was a mistake??? big fish in a small pond player!!! playing for the NT is very different from playing club football. forlan had a wonderful WC, how was he at manu? the continous pressure, the mental and physical requirements, everything is different. at the best of the clubs, if u r given a chance, u have to make the best of it. he dint. so? we had our POTY of the last 2 seasons on the bench!!! but lets only look at kdb. who the hell cares about the football club!!! he was given a chance against united in PL. he was given a chance against arsenal, swindon, sunderland in COC. against hull in PL. he was our 6th choice AM among the list we had at that moment. in the real world, he needed to take those chances. he dint. he was average in ALL of those matches." all in all, he got 5 starts if i am not wrong. hull- average, united - poor, swindon - average, arsenal - below average (probably our worst player on the pitch that day), sunderland - poor (shocking). our 6th choice AM is performing poorly in any chance he gets, he does not want fight for his place, along comes an offer of 18mil, and people like bushman are cribbing that we will live to regret it. also, the bolded statement with the use of "a" chance should be good enough to tell u what i wanted to say.

what constitutes a proper chance? should we have benched oscar who was playing phenomenol at that point? or hazard? their was one place for 4 players (mata, willian, schurrle, kdb). he was never going to get a "proper chance". also learn to read. i dint say he was given a "proper chance". i said, he dint take his "chances" whenever he was given one which is worse when u r the 4th choice AM, 3rd choice LM and 3rd choice RM in the team.