Tomo

Little bit dramatic.

So in other words, when we do well it's because Conte's a genius, but when we don't it's everyone else's fault bar his? got it!!!

I wouldn't mind giving Moses a shot as Azpi's back up, i feel he could be a Valencia esque player there, ala failed winger turned good fullback. What however would be ideal is if Sarri is keeping to his one attacking one more defensive full back is if we have an attacking full back at both RB and LB rotate them and keep switching Azpi from right to left depending on who the biggest threat is out wide. Not many people are keen of Azpi at LB but i like him there, especially vs left footed right wingers and this time round we will hopefully have a better RB than father time Ivanovic. I would say midfield was the area we need the reinforcements first and foremost, im personally not convinced by Ross or Ruben and their shady fitness will be an even bigger worry under Sarri. Baka under Sarri is a no no, he would stand out for the wrong reasons even more than he is already We only really have Kante (potentially Mount but the idea of loaning him to Fulham appeals) for me at the minute (Drinkwater as a squad player), i think even Cesc will be redundant in every way bar emergency sub.

Then the net spend argument is brought in, which is rather ironic given we use to laugh at Liverpool and Arsenal fans for using that argument to defend Rafa and Wenger.

Do we really need an overhaul?

No, but equally i don't expect back to back three goal reverses to Bournemouth and Watford.

Even if we hypothetically weren't after the other players, the fact that since Conte arrived half our signings have been from that league after a decade of signing no one from Italy says it all, and that's before i mention the targetmen. There's likely some arrivals that he doesn't have much of a say in, but is it really a coincidence we suddenly chase Serie A players and targetmen as soon as a manager from Italy with a track record for using a targetman comes in?

So us suddenly going after half of Serie A is a coincidence?

The screams for attacking football are more common these days because that's what the modern game demands. The 00's was the era of the solid shape first everything else second but these days high pressing and being on the front foot wins out the most.

Klopp attacked vs him and beat him. The City and Liverpool games will probably be pretty brutal next season but in the long run were be fine. Also regarding his defense his consession figures in serie a are 32, 39 and 29 making the overall tally 100 in 114, not Simeone or 00's Jose numbers but not disastrous.

Exactly how i don't know, but i do in one way or another he will be a key player for Sarri like he has been every other manager.

If Boga was owned by Birmingham, was in and out of the team all season and we signed him, the "the board feckin signed Drinkwater" would be instead "the board feckin signed Boga". Im not aiming this at you but the general double standards towards the loanee's is ridiculous.

Jeez

He's not fit to lace Kante's boots but he's hardly much worse (if atall) than a player who could be the captain of the CL winners in just over 48 hours. The point i was trying to make is we have enough players who can be trained the "Sarri way" at least as squad players and like Henderson, Drinky has the workrate and an acceptable level of technique to play some part under Sarri, certainly before Baka.

The same was said about Koulibaly amongst others when he took over at Napoli. Yes there are some that are a complete wrong fit for Sarri and will need to be moved on (Baka), but others have at least the basic technique that could be worked with. If Jordan Henderson can be a regular starter for Klopp you can't tell me Drinkwater can't be a squad player for Sarri?

Zouma would be a terrible fit under Sarri, he struggled with the way Conte likes to play out from the back, watching him under Sarri would be excruciating.

I held on with Baka for aslong as i could and under a different manager might have been open to giving him one last chance but under Sarri he will look even more lost because his system that requires atleast an acceptable amount of technique and high workrate. The midfielder who could end up with a second chance is Drinkwater as he possesses both the above.

I think Benitez is more suited to Naples out of the two. Tactically he has a way of setting up which helps Bridge the gap to superior sides (as we found out to our cost many times and as recently as 11 days ago), Carlo's more relaxed approach isn't suitable when trying to fight better sides. I feel he could bomb with this job big time.

Not necessarily, City won one league cup in three years and never lost their's. Arsenal have won 3 FA Cups in 4 years yet no one's scared of them. The fact is, there's is no guarantee we will win anything even if we go for the "safe" option.

Does it make more sense though? Keeping Conte may look relatively risk free by comparison to other appointments on the face of it, but scratching the surface keeping him is probably the biggest risk we can take and all the evidence suggests it just simply isn't a risk worth taking. In Fact the arguments for keeping Conte and not appointing Sarri are alarmingly similar to the arguments that we should have kept Jose and not risked it with Conte, your first points were made numerous times in Jose's defense when his days looked numbered. How many times at Chelsea or any club has things stagnated like they have with us and it got better again? City gave Pellegrini a chance to rectify a miserable title defense and they got even worse. Milan started well under Allegri, gave him ample chance to turn things round when things went stale, but they got worse. I can't think of one example of a manager who was great at the start, but things stagnated then got better again and given the history of this situation, Conte's stubbornness with his tactics and his constant fallings out with players and board members, all the evidence points to us getting worse if we keep him, not better. He has basically replicated Wengers spell at Arsenal in two years (and skipping the 4th place finishes), first season he revolutionised the club and changed the way English teams play and approach things (like Wenger did in his Highbury days) then this season he has got caught up and overtook, just simply didn't have another reaction up his sleeve and has been left trailing his wake but had an FA Cup to get him out of jail (just like Wenger of 2014 onwards). The reality is we will likely get worse if we keep Conte and we need to act before things seriously stagnate. I thank him for that amazing 16/17 season (it was genuinely up there with the back to back titles in terms of the sheer confidence i had in us) but the milk has gone stale. Now onto the point with Sarri, yes he is a risk but he is a calculated one. Also judging managers on previous silverware is a bit of a moot points these days considering the two most decorated managers available are Ancelotti and Wenger, one gets repeatedly fired at top clubs for the same flaws and the other well enough said. He may have won nothing yet but he has shown he can get teams competing playing great football on a short budget. We aren't as brassic as Conte and some of his apologists try and make out but we certainly are not competing with the Manchester clubs in the market any time soon. Conte has made it abundantly clear he isn't having that, Sarri is a big believer in developing players, the same way we are trying to play down the ability of some of our players playing in a system of Sarri's, Napoli fans were laughing hysterically at the thought of Koulibaly being made into a composed ball playing CB back in 2015. Appointing ready made managers for a title or two worked for a while, but if were looking at competing in the long run, we need to get a style implemented for two key reasons. 1. The high pressing, all energy attacking style is becoming the way to go in the modern game just like the solid shape and counter was in the 00's. Despite finishing second United are looking in serious trouble and with the famous Mou third season coming up and all other top 6 having progressive managers next season, would you bet against them falling back down to 6th? or worse if he hysterically has another 15/16. 2. Our academy sides play the type of game Sarri does. At the minute the disconnection between the first team and the academy in terms of play style is alarming, someone like Sarri coming in and bridging that gap will surely help in terms of the best youngsters progressing to the first team. The Academy is the one thing we have over the clubs that are/can spend more money than us, and at some point we have to make it count. Even if Sarri last for two years and wins nothing, there's every chance he could still be key in transitioning us into a wonderful new era and for me he is absolutely worth the gamble.

The players can take a portion of the blame for this season, but 15/16 (atleast the sheer severity of it) was 100 million percent on Mourinho. What evidence exactly are they deliberately trying to unsettle a team? I very much doubt there are many footballers in this whole planet that go out hoping to lose and trying to make it a possibility on their part (IF that has happened with us then yes they should have action taken against them, but i very much doubt it's happened here), take this from someone who knows, it's not easy to perform at your absolute best when there's loads of shit going on even if you care beyond deeply, that's anything from pro sport to a standard 9-5 job. Hazard, Costa and Fabregas were routinely booed the match after Jose's sacking, the former of which had a hip injury all season. After AVB's sacking a couple of anti old guard banners were about vs Birmingham the game after.

You would think so but stranger things have happened, Zlatan is also without a CL medal and basically forefitted his final chance to get one by signing for United.

In terms of the fan opinion it's reapeatedly happened here, one even got branded a snake despite playing all the season upto that point with a hip injury.

Conte, Simeone, Zidane and Pep were all in similar situations to Jokanovic when they got there big break. Not that he's my number 1 choice but just putting it out there.

In the nicest possible way i hope he doesn't come back in the PL. He just wouldn't cope with the pace, that said Bruce's tactics would protect him to a point.