Torres is a good striker, but he's a good striker behind terrible midfield, Torres likes a through ball, i have only ever seen him get 2 through balls, that's the honest too god truth. Lukaku is not crap, he can't be, at the age of 17 to score goals like he did, even for his country you can't be rubbish, he has only had two games where he's been in his normal position, well actually one, that was Norwich and he played well, against Arsenal he played well, but he was with another striker, he usually plays upfront byhimself i think. Pato has proven nothing?, he's scored some very important goals for Milan, also many goals, a hattrick against Inter last season too i believe, also he scored against Barcelona this season in about one minute, he's clearly a very good player, especially for his age, has injury problems however. But we can debate about it all night, but we wont know the truth untill we actually make contact with one of these players, i think Neymar is too much of a gamble, and from what i've seen, well i havent seen enough of him to be worth the money Santos will only sell him for.