Okay I have a lot to answer for, right the Bolton game, bolton shudda had a penalty, my opinion on it, Luiz wasn't clumsy but just made a mistake, natural. Genk game, unnecessary challenges at the beginning but changed later on and sorted himself out and was more disciplined, he proved he can change. This game, well it was a penalty, a foul no doubt Luiz did exactly what helguson wanted, why nudge him?, make contact with the ball when it comes down FFS. The scary thing was Luiz didn't even look at the ball when he made contact, it was uneccesary and clumsy. And Tomo-91, I disagree I think they were pens, the Fulham game Dempsey was looking for it no doubt because he kicked the ball away, but Luiz gambled wrong, and it wasn't clumsy at all, if it was Terry he just would of jockeyed him as he usually does. Luiz is a good defender who needs to start thinking and keep calm instead of gambling all the time, he needs to have patience and jockey or Mark the opponent in a normal situation. U people have to accept however he is going to get cards and concede free kicks and penalties, because he's that defender, my opinion of the matter overall is, that he just gambles to much on tackles when ge should be patient, only in dire situations he should always gamble.