chippy

True, but i do find its now the Leftists (not all) who are telling other people what they should be allowed to say, do, think and believe in. Even life long, old school Liberals, like John Cleese, are now considered to hold questionable opinions. Used to be the job for those on the right, like Mary Whitehouse. Again, to me, those on the centre right tend to me more easy going and just want people to basically live and let live and get on with their lives.

Yes, but alll those groups of people see those who are not in their groups as the problem. Btw. Don't see any on the right of centre saying immigrants are the problem. Illegal immigration is what concerns people.Same in America and other countries.

The thing is, they chose BLM as a name for thier movement for a reason. If they didn't want any racist, anti white sentiments to start creeping in they could very easily have chose a different name. All Lives Matter, for starters. Instead, its become a movement where only Black Lives Matter. Only the other week a 16 year old boy was shot dead by the Police in New York. BLM heard the news and started a march towards the Police Station. The March broke up as soon as they found out that the boy was white. Look at the Kick It Out movement in football. Was their a single person against that? No, because there was no racist, extremist politics whatsoever involved in it. A simple message that crossed any racial and political divides. Race Grifting is big business and goes way back to cnuts like Sharpton. Its quite sick to think that in America this movement will see a Homeless, White, druggie, Vietnam Vet as the oppressor and the Billionaire Oprah as the oppressed.

Come on Utd! The bestist team in the whole, wide world. Until 10 o'clock tonight that is.

But its not just simply about finding someone who's comfortable on the ball. Are they big enough, strong enough and quick enough too? Zouma is all three of those. He's also a goal threat at set pieces for us too. Also, although he never looks good on the ball his passing isn't quite as bad as you make it out to be. Overall, I'd say he's about as good as most of the 4th choice CB's at the top 6 clubs.

Re rewarding failure. Would you take no CL but winning the FA Cup, over finishing 4th? This season I would take 4th all day long! However, if we went say 5 or 6 years without a trophy, then I would definitely take either domestic Cup over finishing 4th.

Dirty trick to try and conflate the legit scandal of Windrush with the criminal scum (included murders, armed robbers and rapists) being sent back to Jamaica. The Windrush folk will be compensated in time. Hard to put a reasonable figure on what to give tho.

And one of BLM's founders has just spent 3 and a half million dollars on 3 houses. Is she moving to downtown southside of Chicago to be with her "brothers and sisters" ? Is she fcuk! She's moved to a cosy place in an erea of Beverly Hills where there's no Black People. Sickening, hypocritical, Marxist cnut.

Yep! Its going even further now with Black actors playing real life, historical white figures. Imagine the uproar if a white actor played MLK or any historical black figure, and rightly so I might add. Where next with this bollox? Women playing Men and Men playing Women. Disabled actors playing top sportsmen/women. Get to the stage where we'll have Dawn French playing Sammy Davis Jnr in a bio pic.

I have been talking about the UK and America and the increasingly dangerous, left right divide in the West. What I said about Tracey Babin's race baiting lies was just a more recent example of what's happening both here, America and other countries. Here's another recent one from another Labour MP, who's name I can't remember off the top of my head. In the commons talking about an "urgent question" brought forward by the Labour MP on the deportation of foriegn criminals. A Tory MP stood up and asked why they having this urgent question on the deportation of criminals when one had never been asked before on that subject? The Labour MP was outraged because the crims were Black and being sent back to Jamaica. The Tory MP read out the stats of the nationalities of crims deported over the years. Less than 3% have been from Jamaica, but yet again, the tiny percentage are seen as being worth more attention and protection than everyone else. This is not the kind of equality most decent people should be striving for. Its actually going against the very meaning of the word and just another reason why so many ordinary people have deserted the Labour Party.

Yes, and its working and tearing countries apart on political sides like I've never seen in my lifetime. Only the other week 25 retired French Generals called for a military takeover of France. A bit worrying when we start hearing this kind of stuff. I don't know what the end game is to all this, but there are dark forces at work here doing shit well beyond my level of thinking.

Again, your proving my point. Have to resort to insults which shows you've lost the argument and havent a clue what you're talking about. Even tho I very clearlt condemn Nazis and the extreme right, I still get branded as one. Quite laughable really. Again, I've seen the hate speeches direct from the mouths of BLM, branding every white person as a fucking white supremacist and all kinds of other derogatory shit. Only a few weeks ago the mob were at it again outside a Cafe in New Jersey harrassing White People just sitting there having coffee, ranting and raving about white people not being wanted around here. As for the Police going round "systematically killing us." Again, would you like the actual crime data on this, or do you just go along with what you want to believe? I have something from a few months ago in the Commons from an exchange between Labour MP Tracey Babin and Pritti Patel. Babin stood up and rantef about her inbox being full of letters from her constituents worried sick about the number of Black People who'd died in Police custody.over the Last year. Rant over, Patel calmly stood up and read out the actual figures of those who died in custody and the total was 16 people. Out of those 16, 15 were white. Very telling that the Labour race grifter was only interested in the non white dying. That sums it all up for me. Bad shit happens to people of all colours, creeds and races, not just Black people. Me, I care about justice for everykind of person, not one group of people over another. I hate extremists on both sides! AND THAT IS MY F ING POINT! But I doubt you'll believe me, so I'll just leave it at that.

Yeah, I always knew there was certain bias towards one side or another, esoecially in the printed media. It wasn't until I started to see these uncut videos when I saw just how much things are being twisted and covered up. I have been genuinely shocked by what I've seen over the past couple of years. These cnuts have blood on their hands!

There you go. Yet more of the usual response to those who oppose what they stand for. Nazi this Nazi that. Blame far left violence on others, but all right wing violence is by Nazis. Full how there are tons of Black Conservatives on YouTube who detest the Dems and BLM even more than I do. One of the fucking founders of BLM has said that their end game is to bring down Western Civilization as we know it. Admitted that they are "pro Black" movement. Saw some of them openly saying before the Floyd verdict that "America will burn" if they don't get the verdict that they want. You see, I despise the KKK and anyother groups of that kind. But I feel equally about racist Black Power groups. Just different sides of the same coin to me. Finally, those on the Left never forgave George Wallace, but non Lefties have to forgive Leftie KKK members. Ha Ha.

No, I certainly don't want us to become another Arsenal! If we win the CL, I couldn't give a rats ass where we finish in the league. But, seeing that the final comes after the league has finishef, we cant afford to go into that game against a full strength City, knowing we have to win it to get CL football. After Leicester beating Utd, we should have gone all out to get top four by playing our strongest possible team and play the weakened side in the FA Cup Final. We now find ourselves likely having to play our strongest sides against both Leicester and Villa, while City have the luxuary of being able to rest players. TT cocked up bigtime last night, but at least he's admitted he made a mistake with selection.

I wouldn't piss on the mainstream media outlets if they were on fire. They're all pushing a devisive agenda. However, the truth is out there if you take the time to look for it and know where to look. Mainstream media are deliberately chosing to cover stories that fit the current, trendy far left agenda and covering up anything that goes against it. They (mostly talking about American on this bit) are even going as far editing videos and cutting out crucial bits which put completely different slants onto to what actually happened. I know this for a fact as I've seen uncut videos from peoples mobile phones and then seen the ediited video footage shown on mainstream tv, with CNN probably being the worst culprits. These scumbags are stirring up hatred and division. I prefer to watch actual, uncut video footage uploaded by someone who simply says "here you are, just take a look at this." Furthermore, anyone can go on the FBI website and look at their detailed crime data. It literally destroys the disgusting lies of the media narative and the Far Left/BLM/Antifa/Woke BS.

We're not going to find a classy 4th choice CB who's willing to be the 4th choice. Kurt seems happy with his lot at Chelsea and for all his limitations, he's a pretty decent 4th choice CB, so I don't see the point in looking for a replacement. Tomori has more potential tho, so we'll have to see if we bring him back in the summer.

I got stick for saying it last time, but I'd rather no Euro football than be in EL. If we do end up in it then I'd play our weakest teams possible.

We've been moaning about our piss poor midfield for three years now. Its not going to get any better with Kova, Jorgi and Kante so we need to break it up and sell two of them. I'd like to see Kova and Jorgi sold in the summer. Neither gives anything to the team much further past the centre circle. Might get 60 million for the two, which is enough to buy a class player who can actually do something in the final third of the pitch. Had more than enough of Kova's mazy little dribbles around the middle of the pitch which result in the sum total of nothing.

There was one moment near the end when CHO had 3 or defenders tightly packed in front of him inside a packed penalty area and he ran straight at them and lost the ball. Just completely braindead football.

Fair points. But can we attract the level of player we need to challenge for the title without CL next season?

Yes, its horrible sqweeky bum time now. But I'll take that, knowing we've got really big things to play for, over being able to sit back and chillout like the Gooners do this time every year.

Its all about CL next season. Get that and everybody should be satisfied with the season. Any trophy on top of that would of course make for a great season. No CL and things will be very different for a manager on a short contract.

Gilmour was one of the few who was having a half decent game too. An absolute horror show by TT tonight!

Whatever happens here on in, a number of this team should be playing for thier future at the club next sesson. Too many have been very average or even regressed. You see players like CHO play like that tonight and its easy to start giving up hope on them making it here. He looked like a fecking division one player.