MoroccanBlue

Starting Werner at ST is a big question mark for me.

Werner as the ST just such a bizarre decision by Tuchel. So, so bizarre.

Anyone know Jorginho and Kovacic's turnover of possession that 1st half?

Jorginho gave the ball away three times. 1st led to Silva’s yellow 2nd led to Silva’s red 3rd led to West Brom’s 2nd goal

Take off Alonso!!!’nn

So poor.

I'd say losing Kovacic would be the biggest loss with regards to midfield. Hopefully he's fit by Man City.

Haaland or bust for them as well. Think Raiola and Alfie are speaking with other clubs now in regards to Haaland's next summer move vs this year as I can't see any club other than PSG paying for it.

Think CHO is still injured from international duty

I'm not denying his finishing got worse, I'm saying Werner has always been a chance bottler! He's missed 16 big chances in the league this season. Last season at Liepzeg, he missed 21. So seeing him continue to miss chance after chance, in hindsight, shouldn't be all that surprising. I'd like to think being utilised incorrectly by Lampard for half the season took a toll on his ability to find the net to the standard we saw last season. I really do not want to get into the argument of 'mental toughness' again whilst throwing out the Morata and Torres comparisons. Already displayed my stance on how I find it ridiculous considering those two had us playing with 10 men.

What are you actually disagreeing with here? I'm saying Werner is scoring less goals in England than in Germany because the latter had an environment where he strived in (counter attacking league) and the team was built around him. He's gotten a significantly less amount of shots this season compared to last because A, the premier league is a relatively low block league, and B, the team isn't built around him. He was already notoriously known for missing chances in Germany. You reduce the number of attempts he has on goal, he's going to look even worse. All of this is hindsight. If I knew this all along I would've been skeptical about this signing. What's a sport Psychologist have to do with Werner when Werner lacks some of the basic principles of finesse in the box?

It is an issue in Werner's case because we were warned by avid Bundesliga viewers that Werner, inspite his goal scoring record, wasted LOADS. When you analyse the goals he scored at RB, a lot of them were playing off from the left and beating the back line. RB was also built around him with creative midfielders that fed him constantly. 80% of clubs in the prem play a low block, and our current set up isn't built around Werner. You reduce the number of chances he has only highlights how poor a finisher he actually is. Ask @killer1257, @Magic Lamps, or any Bundesliga watcher. They all warned us Werner misses loads.

To direct you to Jason's point, he scored 90 goals in 4 seasons. When you look at his goals, the majority of which were from the space behind the back line. The prem limits the space he finds with a low block, thus reducing the number of chances he'll get. Thus reducing the number of goals.

The majority of his goals were finding space behind the back line and shifting to the left. He won't find any space like that in the prem. RB also played to his strengths, where there was a lot of creativity in their midfield that supplied Werner.

Bundesliga fans did warn us that he misses loads. RB just created a tremendous amount of chances for him and in Germany, there is always space behind the back line which is where Werner flourishes. Don't think he'll get any better. 😬

We should really put more fire to the Werner + cash for Haaland rumor...

It's becoming harder and harder to really defend him now.

Utterly pathetic.

Has to be fake.

One of Brazils most talented players apparently.

Remember those members, particularly the continuous Mount bashers, that said we missed a trick loaning out Barkley instead of Mount after Villa beating Liverpool and Arsenal? Conveniently removing the notorious fact from memory that Barkley is embarrassingly inconsistent?

Drogbaaaaaaaaahhhh > Aguerooooooooo

Precisely. We'd be foolish to have this system pull the wool over our eyes when a top CB and CM are much needed.

What if our chance creation/conversion continues to look poor next season with the 3atb? Are you going to trust our back line in a back 4 if Tuchel needs to change it up?

He sorted his hip injury, and the only injury he had this sustained was from an ankle challenge. He and VVD will be a wall.