DYC.

John Terry.

Cech - 6 Ivanovic - 6.5 Terry - 6 Luiz - 6 Cole - 7.5 Mikel - 7.5 Essien - 7 Lampard - 7 Malouda - 6.5 Kalou - 6.5 Drogba - 9

BORING.

No Özil? :huh:

Yes it did, amazing how one small change made such an huge difference in our midfield-play. Hope it wasn't just our day today and that the change will cause a lasting positive effect.

It's La Liga. This is the least interesting/tense game of the four RMCF - FCB games, should still be a good game though. And I think Barcelona will win again.

I'd say 4-2-1-3.

No you're not, haven't seen a supersharp counter-attack like that since the Mourinho days.

When WBA scored, I told a friend of mine that we never seem to react well when we're down and that I was interested to see what would happen now... Well what a great response to their goal. Haven't seen the boys play like this since the Sunderland game. Drogba's playing the best game he's played all season, showing his all-round game and even showing off from time to time. Also cleared the ball of the line, it's his day today. Happy for the guy . And almost forgot about Malouda, he's actually having a good game . Hope this isn't just our day and we can perform like this again and again for the rest of season.

First of all I said you can fault him for not winning more titles with the good squad he had. And what's with all the 'does that make him a bad manager' talk? Where did I say CA was a bad manager (?), I even called him a good manager. And you keep talking about Hiddink's period at Madrid but the man has been a coach for over twenty years yet you chose to ignore his successes and focus on his failures, that's unfair. There's not a single manager out there that only had succes. Whether you find it dumb to sack CA is your opinion so allow people to have their own on this matter.

What does he have to with anything?

Of course CA's a good manager but you can fault him for not winning more titles when he did have a great squad (the years before the 2007/2008 season) or in his time at Juventus. And there's a difference in being a good manager and being the right manager. I don't neccissarily want him out but I do question whether he's the right manager for Chelsea.

Mancini's squad was so much stronger than the rest, winning the title year after year was only normal. It's like with Lyon a few years back when they became champions seven years in a row. But in the CL, Mancini's Inter was very poor and never managed to get past the second round of the competition. (I'm purely trying to explain Mancini's situation in Italy) I do think people are being unfair towards Guardiola. Yes he has a absolutely fantastic squad and yes that plays a huge part in his succes but like Henrique said, it was pretty much the same squad that went through a rough patch for two seasons. You have to give the man credit for things like getting rid of the likes of Ronaldinho and Deco (though the Eto'o + money - Ibrahimovic swap was a huge mistake), spotting Busquets' talent very early when many criticized him for benching Touré, Valdes growing out into a fantastic goalkeeper under him after being average GK for years, giving Messi a new role as a false number 9 which helped him become an even better player than he already was and some more good/great decisions.

Financial Fair Play rules.

Exactly the type of midfielder we need. Fantastic player and he's also very young, perfect buy (maybe too perfect to be true ).

Was it a good game?

I disagree. For example, we are now looking at the worst Man Utd side in years yet they always perform when they need to and always perform in big matches. They might not always win but they are never out of the game until the final whistle. Ferguson must have something to do with that.

No I'm not talking about that. Mourinho has the ability to get the best out of his players, to make them feel like they're the best in the world and like they're invincible. I have no idea.

You mean to tell me you think Mourinho's biggest strength as a manager is overrated? I disagree with you then. And why do you think there's always this big speech from the coach to get his players all hyped up and excited in those sports movies?

Agree. Don't forget about a new (back-up) RB though and I'd keep Zhirkov as (at least) a squad player.

You'd think he would play more from now on but I doubt that will happen.

Don't see him offering greatness to club too. I've said this before and people here don't like it when I say it but I don't see him becoming the '2007-2009' Torres anymore. Really really hope I'm wrong though.

Yeah was thinking the same thing but at least he showed he's still top dog. Even when we were down by 2-1, he still went for it. He might be a big baby sometimes but I still love him.

Yeah that was very poor too, it's like he has like no power in shots anymore. What happened to this guy..? Anyway about your feelings on Torres, I was against getting him but now he's here, he's here to stay. So the club and the coach should do 'everything' they can to get the most out of him. That means get a player(s) that's great at playing balls behind the defence and get fast and skillfull wingers so we're dangerous on the counter-attack.

Nonsense. Fulham - Chelsea *Luiz played a fantastic long ball from deep to Torres. Torres all on his own but failed to control the ball. Man Utd - Chelsea * Drogba crosses to Torres, Torres failed to connect and the ball ended up hitting the post. * Torres' header that got saved by Van der Sar. It was a wonder save but he received a good ball. Wigan - Chelsea * Ivanovic plays a great ball from deep to Torres. Same thing that happened vs. Fulham happened here. * Benayoun provides Torres with the perfect pass in front of goal, Torres fails to score. And those are just the moments I can come up with right now. People should stop acting like he's had no good chance at all. It's a lame excuse and it's getting annoying.