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Pepe betrayed Mourinho in Real Madrid, don't expect any respect from Mourinho, and Pepe don't deserve any respect. As a person Pepe is a fucking disgrace. And I'm not speaking about the Casquero situation that was horrible (the only one Pepe had in football because all the other things are absolutelly normal). I'm talking about the 3 years of Mourinho in Madrid in which Mourinho was the only person defending Pepe from the papers in Madrid, the fans and Barcelona. Pepe is right now in Madrid because of Mourinho and in the last month to garantee his spot at the club he said Mourinho was wrong and Casillas shoudn't be treated like that. About the words of Mourinho, he said the truth... Pepe is not portuguese in the sentimental sense of the word, and he should behave properly. That was not a red card, as Mourinho also said, but was really stupid what he did. And Mourinho is portuguese, he will coach the national team (Madrid didn't let him coach the NT some years ago), he can say what he wants about the team and he already said that he doens't like that much "non portuguese" players in the national team. I agree with him.

He isn't but he can play there very well, He played there in the first 6 months, and without him we have only Mikel to replace Matic, if Mikel stays (He is not that good). None of our other midfielders can do it.

We can't sell Ramires and buy Kroos, if we sell Ramires we need a player that can play in the position of Matic.

Modric in Madrid with Mourinho played in every position of the midfield, and did it ok mainly because he had no pre season at all and that is really difficult for a player specially in Real Madrid where you have Ozil, Khedira and Alonso,

I like him a lot. He was one of the best players in the first 6 months and played almost every game. He did a lot of differente positions with good performances. If we can get a lot of money for him (something more than 20M£) we can sell him. But he is a really good player.

It's real. Pique said: P: Let's defend Cesc...(the video here is edited) He told me 'it's done'" DB: He? P: "He is going now. He told me '33 millions'". SOmething like this.

He said it!!! 33 millions, if it is for us and the value is in £ we did another marvelous deal.

http://www.mundodeportivo.com/20140604/futbol/seleccion-espanola/pique-cesc-nunca-ha-sido-valorado-suficientemente-en-el-barca_54408686982.html Mundo Deportivo reporting exactly that. TVE is the TV station that have that conversation recorded.

We started last season with: Cech, Ivanovic, Terry, Cahill, Azpi/Cole, Ramires, Lampard, Oscar, Hazard, Willian, Torres/Etoo. We will start the next one with something like: Cech/Courtois, Azpi/Iva, Terry, Cahill, Filipe Luis, Matic, Cesc, Oscar, Hazard, Willian, Costa. And maybe with players in the bench like Ramires, TIago, Schurrle, Lukaku, Zouma. We improved from last season because we had a plan and had a more balanced team. This season we will have a hell of a team. It's not only Cesc, it's not only Costa, it's because we have 20 players capable of playing in any game. Next season if Hazard has a problem, or Oscar can't play for 2 months, or Ramires we won't have any problem. A team like this is something really great.

"Barcelona will sell Cesc to buy Koke. Auction for Cesc. Mourinho is interested. Who will pay more money? Manchester 43M€ Chelsea 40M€ Arsenal 36M€" Something like this. Papers also say what players or clubs want. To Barcelona and to Fabregas it's important that every one think that Fabregas has a lot of clubs interested in him.

THe papers in Cataluña are saying that Barcelona want Koke, Aguero, Marquinhos and Cuadrado. They need to sell, and the players that have some value and they want to sell are Alexis and Fabregas. I would buy both of them if they cost less than 40M€ like the papers are saying. Many here want a playmaker in the double pivot, I think with Fabregas we would get a player offensive attributes that can defend well, with a lot of experience and quality. I don't think there are a lot of differences between Lampard and Cesc. Cesc can play with Matic. And is also a great solution to play in some games with Matic-Ramires or Tiago-Cesc

No I didn't say that. We are one of the best 10 teams in the world (I would say between the 5 best teams) and we need to have some of the best players in the world. I think that's normal. But I'm not saying we need to have WClass players everywhere. I'm saying that the only players that will influence the way we play are Ballon Dor kind of players. Not Mata, not Luiz, and definatelly not Lukaku or KdB. Real Madrid plays for Ronaldo and plays the way Ronaldo is more confortables, Barcelona plays for Messi. Every player that want to play for that teams needs to know that. Ibrahimovic, Etoo, Alexis, Neymar, and many others learned that lesson in Barcelona. And all of them are trully world class players. We don't have that kind of player and we sold the players that doesn't fit our style, and bought others, As simple as that. About KdB without any effort I told you the name of 8 players with 22 years old (or less) better than him. Imagine how many players are in the world better than KdB in his position. But you and others think it was really bad to sell that player for 17M£ when he did nothing in the games he played, All the players that were sold in Chelsea were not super stars, they didn't fit, and were sold for a lot of cash. With that money we bought players in more important positions, that fit better, and are as good as the ones we sold. I think that is more important to have a ST and a CM than a 2nd CAM or a 3rd CB. About Oscar he needs to do better. Just that.

Yes it is. We can remember the magnificent football Chelsea produced in the last 3 years. When you say players like KdB, Luiz , Lukaku or even Mata you are talking about what? Players for example like Mata and Luiz that are not between the 10 best players in their positions in the world... FOr example for KdB I can say almost 10 young players better then him with almost the same age (Gotze, Neymar, Lucas, Oscar, Jese, Shaqiri.Sterling, Chamberlain... there you have 8, many of them younger than KdB). If you say: "We have ROnaldo, Messi, and Toure and they don't fit"... there you have a problem. Because when you have this kind of players the team needs to fit them. When you have Mata, and Luiz (the other 2 are irrelelevant) it's difficult to win something with this players as the stars of the team because they don't have quality for that. And for me Oscar has a lot of potential, has the right qualities for the team, but he needs to play a lot better. But it's the same situation that Mata had, he isn't good enough to make a team arround him and he needs to improve. We don't have a real star in this team, we don't have a player that consistently can produce great performances... maybe Hazard will be like that. Oscar can do it... but he needs be more consistent and play better. If he doesn't do it, he will be sold.

In that article they say that the buy out clause is 24M€, the player want to play for us because he will have a salary of more than 4M€/season, and the good relations between clubs and the opinion of the player can make us pay less then the value of the buy out clause,

If your idea of world class is playing 30 perfect games per season then we have Cristiano and Messi (not this year). But then we have a problem... we don't have one single world class player in the team. FOr example this season we had almost half a season without Hazard playing well, and trully world class games he did 2 or 3. Should we sell him for 50M£? 60£? I won't talk about the others because Hazard was our best player,,, imagine the others. Modric was a player of Tottenham, Hazard played for Lille, Lucas for São Paulo. Please let's not compare Juventus with this teams, and Serie A with French or Brazilian competitions. Pogba is a star of one of the best 10 clubs in the world, in a great football country. Hazard was not more prepaired than Pogba when we bought him. That's an insult to Juventus, to France national team, to Seria A and to a magnificent player like Pogba. 7 goals and 7 assists in Serie A from a CM. Yes, as you can see a CM that have this numbers played 2 or 3 good games. Like this one, in this one he didn't score but....

I totally agree, Pogba is World Class and clearly one of the 10 best midfielders in the world. He is better than any of our midfielders (it's not that impressive), but also he would play in the starting eleven of any team team in the world. He don't need to prove nothing in Europe or in his national team, at least not more than Neymar, Hazard, or other young great players in the world that also won nothing in Europe (Pogba at least won big competitions in a great football country). Shaw is "worth" 30M£ because he is English, Pogba is "worth" 50M£ because he is incredible. Pogba is not a player with talent that can be really good, he already is a world class player like Varane was one year ago (before his injury, right now I have some doubts specially because in Spain they say he plays with pain), I don't know if he is worth 50M£, but if David Luiz has a market value of 50M£ then Pogba should be sold for at least 100M£. When we compare the prices of the players at this moment I think Pogba has a market price of at least 50M€, if we buy him for 50M£ maybe er are overpaying a little bit, but we will have a class A player, no doubt about it. By the way. I don't think Madrid will pay almost 100M€ for him,

Brazil plays exactly the same way Portugal did for more than 10 years (including with Scolari, right now is a little different because we don't have Deco anymore), the same way Chelsea does it, or last year Madrid. A 4-2-3-1 with Oscar as number 10. It's something different from what right now Portugal do with Moutinho, or Spain with Inista and Xavi when Alonso is not in the field. That's a 4-3-3. Not Brazil.

FOr me what makes the true difference between the 4-3-3 are the players not the way we play. If you have a Matic, Ramires and Oscar no matter how they play this is a 4-2-3-1, if we play with Lampard (OScar out) it would be a 4-3-3. If you have players that are no.10's you won't play in 4-3-3 because for that you need players like Lampard, Gerrard, Schweinsteiger, VIdal. Players less offensive, but a lot more complete than a true number 10 like Oscar, Kaka, Ozil, etc. That will depend on the quality of players, but in football we have more great players similar to Oscar, than similar to Lampard.

I like Pogba a lot. I agree that he is the player with more similarities with Toure, and Ithink he is the right kind of player for us. I think that Juventus has a problem in the midfield... Too many great players in the center midfield and they wanted to play them all in the starting eleven, I think Pogba and also Vidal had more diffilculties because Juventus midfield is a little strange, the midfielders need to play really wide because they have no wingers. They do their role well because they are realy good but I think they would play better in our 4-2-3-1.

What hundreds of millions were spent by Mourinho in Madrid? Mourinho in 2010 spent 83M£, in 2011 53M£ and finally in 2012 30M£. Here you have your hundreds of millions. "Pellegrini" spent in 2009 230M£, and "Ancelotti" spent 150M£ in 2013. Teams that spent more than Mourinho in that 3 years: Manchester City 2012 55M£2011 85M£2010 85M£ Chelsea 2012 101M£2011 91M£2010 111M£ PSG 2012 131M£2011 93M£ And I think many would be really surprised to see, how Real Madrid spend almost the same money as Barcelona and Bayern for example in that period. And obviously Madrid had a great players before Mourinho, had great players with Mourinho, and have great players now.

You need to know who is Diego Torres (you know who is Jorge Valdano?), Manolo Lama, Alfredo Relaño and some others. One example, is the opinion of Mr Palomar (chief Marca journalist): "Mourinho is the typical person that would leave the scene of of an accident produced by him" (Marca). Another great one from Boyero a journalist that works in the same paper of Diego Torres (El Pais) :"A very dangerous person. He (Mourinho) knows the metodology to bring the worst out of people. Football should be a sport played by men, not by beasts. The portuguese Nazi want football to be played by beasts." That's the kind of person that wrote that wonderful book, because Mr Torres has a bigger problem with Mourinho... You know... Valdano had a 2.4M€/season contract in Real Madrid.

Congratulations for him... This topic is about Mourinho, if you have any problem about it, tell that to the person that came here to talk about Ancelotti. You can like more Ancelotti or Hiddink but for sure they are not better coaches than Mourinho. The numbers prove it. The day a coach wins a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less than 20M£ you can come here and try to compare him with Mourinho

Yes, But about what really matters in a coach... 20 tittles in 12 years, for example a Champions League with a team that cost for sure less then 20M£. I like Sharapova more than Mourinho, she is really wonderful.

He was injured for more than 6 months, and before the final he played less than 150 minutes. I don't understand how someone could expect a great performance from him. And I don't understand how Ancelotti put him in the team in the Champions League Final He played because Ancelotti wanted a more defensive midfield and Illarramendi is the flop of the decade, the kid is really bad. But anyway Khedira can't play this match. If Madrid don't want him, send him here please. Him and all the other players Madrid don't want. Usually they are superstars underrated in Real Madrid. Like Sneijder, Robben, Di Maria, Khedira, Coentrão.

Congratulations to Ancelotti but... a coach that won 1 title with a great team in ACMilan in8 years, and a coach that lost a league with PSG without any competition... I don't tink he is really that good. He has some great moments specially in europe, but a lot of seasons really bad. For exemple many here say this season was really bad, Ancelotti with a lot of cash lost 1 title in France with PSG against no one. He is a great coach no doubt about it. But... In Madrid he has Mourinho team + Bale. No Barcelona and Guardiola killed Bayern.