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Hogsdon is perfect for a middle club with no ambition and happy to just get by.

For clubs/countrys with ambitions to improve and evolve he is horrible, England will get to the Euros by default and get humiliated again.

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Wales have practically done it. Massive congrats, just hope they can mathematically qualify before we play them. :D Belgium has got by far the best group of players in our group but they are struggling, I wonder what is going on over there. Still they'll probably beat us and qualify behind Wales. Hopefully we finish 3rd which would be a miracle considering how bad we started.

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Wales have practically done it. Massive congrats, just hope they can mathematically qualify before we play them. :D Belgium has got by far the best group of players in our group but they are struggling, I wonder what is going on over there. Still they'll probably beat us and qualify behind Wales. Hopefully we finish 3rd which would be a miracle considering how bad we started.

#notrainer period.

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wales full of team work and 2 world class players playing without selfish ego to make the team better.funny how in 3 hours of football between Wales and Belgium ,Belgium and their "superstars" haven`t been able to score a goal against a defense that plays with a back up Palace keeper,and Reading,Hull and Swansea defenders.. :D

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What I don't understand is why Roy doesn't trust Jagielka and now Clyne over Phil Jones and fucking Chris Smalling...

Bar having Terry, Clyne-Cahill-Jagielka-Shaw is probably the best back line available to England.

Bertrand>Shaw
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I don`t bother with listening or reading the media for any football if they went to college/uni instead of playing the game at any high level or have any connection with Liverpool fc.

but it`s not surprising that English based media should talk mostly about English football. if we had a strong enough interest in other nations football related matters I`m sure the media do build up their players and knock them down just as much.

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