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DavidEU

Eden Hazard

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4 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

You can have all your delusions. It does not change a thing.

It's downright stupid if not asenine to say hazard did not expose himself. Again, tell me who was the most fouled player in PL over the years. Hell even all over Europe. Stop making stuff up and then say "it's an opinion, deal with it". I have said exactly what I think about your post is pointless, redundant and stupid. Want me to re-iterate it?

The point that a player who has been the most fouled player across year, does not expose himself. That point, get it?

So the loser in Europa league or fa cup or carabao cup does not go home? Huh? Lol. 

It is downright stupid to think hazard showed tremendous dedication and exposed himself often while here at Chelsea. 

the guy shows up fat... dedication has no on/off switch.

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Just now, Robchels said:

It is downright stupid to think hazard showed tremendous dedication and exposed himself often while here at Chelsea. 

the guy shows up fat... dedication has no on/off switch.

Sure. Whatever floats your delusional boat. He was also sub par, 😂 in his time here. 

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Just now, 1905didierblue said:

Sure. Whatever floats your delusional boat. He was also sub par, 😂 in his time here. 

No man... he was fantastic in CL winning many Tough CL matches on his own only to be let down by the team... speaking of delusion...

Think history will see eden more like I do. We shall see.

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1 minute ago, Robchels said:

No man... he was fantastic in CL winning many Tough CL matches on his own only to be let down by the team... speaking of delusion...

Think history will see eden more like I do. We shall see.

Stop making a fool of yourself. Stop shifting goal posts. 

Your premise that hazard did not expose himself can be debunked by a simple stat of who was the most fouled player in PL across years. 

And again, why are not you answering the question I post? Are fa cup, carabao cup and Europa league not elimination matches? Why is it that he performed brilliantly in that? Is that because of the level of the teams we faced?

As for the last part. Lolollol 😂😂😂. Sure . Sure. You are right.

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12 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

Stop making a fool of yourself. Stop shifting goal posts. 

Your premise that hazard did not expose himself can be debunked by a simple stat of who was the most fouled player in PL across years. 

And again, why are not you answering the question I post? Are fa cup, carabao cup and Europa league not elimination matches? Why is it that he performed brilliantly in that? Is that because of the level of the teams we faced?

As for the last part. Lolollol 😂😂😂. Sure . Sure. You are right.

Hmm no? :)

and it hasn’t been “debunked.” It’s just your fucking opinion against mine. There is nothing else to it even if your delusion makes you feel all righteous.

lololol lololol lolol sure sure you are right... ;) you are the best buddy.

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6 hours ago, Robchels said:

Hmm no? :)

and it hasn’t been “debunked.” It’s just your fucking opinion against mine. There is nothing else to it even if your delusion makes you feel all righteous.

lololol lololol lolol sure sure you are right... ;) you are the best buddy.

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2018_2019/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No. 1 fouled player in 2018/19. 

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2017_2018/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No. 4 fouled player in 2017/18

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2016_2017/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No. 2 fouled player in 2016/17

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2015_2016/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No. 6 fouled player in 2015/16

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2014_2015/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No.1 fouled player in 2014/15 (20 above the 2nd most)

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2013_2014/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No.1 fouled player in 2013/14 (12 above the 2nd most)

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/inglaterra/2012_2013/ranking/jugadores/faltas_recibidas/

No.5 fouled player in 2012/13

 

But But But, he does not expose himself. :wank2:

 

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3 hours ago, 1905didierblue said:

Thank you. That’s exactly what I was saying. Went to the ground way too easily protecting himself from hard fouls (well-known strategy). Which evidently worked, since he never got seriously injured and got his fat ass in Madrid, like he always wanted.

Unfortunately, it often works for the opposition too, since it’s an easy way to stop his runs, and does not have to be hard fouls either. Never had the mentality nor the fitness to do otherwise, which is exactly why I think he’s not a match winner at CL level. Great player on a long championship, but that’s it for me.

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1 hour ago, Robchels said:

Thank you. That’s exactly what I was saying. Went to the ground way too easily protecting himself from hard fouls (well-known strategy). Which evidently worked, since he never got seriously injured and got his fat ass in Madrid, like he always wanted.

Unfortunately, it often works for the opposition too, since it’s an easy way to stop his runs, and does not have to be hard fouls either. Never had the mentality nor the fitness to do otherwise, which is exactly why I think he’s not a match winner at CL level. Great player on a long championship, but that’s it for me.

Hahahahahaha. Trolololol

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15 hours ago, manpe said:

Actually for his size he went down incredibly rarely when he had the chance. Was often able to stay on his feet when pushed and shoved while many other wingers would have gone down, so I wholeheartedly disagree with the opinion that he went down too easily. He took many hard tackles almost every game and shrugged them off, he was lucky not to get serious injuries just like Lampard was, for example.

I think that’s mostly down to skill and close control, which he has in abundance. Sure, I guess that’s what you saw, and granted, it was certainly the case some times. I also saw a player who often held to the ball way too long only to get fouled, often a professional foul to stop the play.

Luck usually works in small samples, not consistently over many years, or at least that’s what I’ve learned. He does a good job protecting himself from hard tackles.

Pushed and shoved is part of the game. As are the many little fouls that stopped him many many times.

The funny thing here is that I’m the only one who seem interested as the why his CL record is so so bad... not only his performances but his stats compared to PL.

Of course if you go back some pages folks are on and on that he lacks the “killer instinct” which of course has nothing to do with determination...or does it? :) 

think we are going on in circles here. I’m just making the same reiterated points. Even tho I don’t mind these exchanges. 

what can I say... I’m really not a Fan of his game, his worth ethic, and especially not a fan of his mentality. I’ve watched many great players over many years and hazard is just not that impressive to me.

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It's not just love that can blind people, I feel hate does that job even better. Can't describe it in any other way than the ramblings of a hater. Point is, when you speak out hate and spite, more often than not, you end up looking like a clueless idiot. Makes 0 sense to say he did not play well in CL, when as a team we have been poor in the competition due to lack of quality for years. It's specially weird since he has literally won us finals and semi finals across competitions over the years.

Even weirder is doubting him for putting his body on the line when he is literally the most fouled player in the most physical league. 

Like I said, ramblings of an idiot.

 

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1 hour ago, 1905didierblue said:

It's not just love that can blind people, I feel hate does that job even better. Can't describe it in any other way than the ramblings of a hater. Point is, when you speak out hate and spite, more often than not, you end up looking like a clueless idiot. Makes 0 sense to say he did not play well in CL, when as a team we have been poor in the competition due to lack of quality for years. It's specially weird since he has literally won us finals and semi finals across competitions over the years.

Even weirder is doubting him for putting his body on the line when he is literally the most fouled player in the most physical league. 

Like I said, ramblings of an idiot.

 

You are a self-righteous piece of work aren’t you? :) learn how to respect other opinions without name calling or perhaps discussion forums aren’t for you. Don’t like them, ignore list is for that.

Suspect I’ve seen quite a few more great players than you. I don’t hate Eden. Just think he’s not that special - seen a lot better!

You don’t fucking know me. You don’t know what I like or dislike because I haven’t told you.

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50 minutes ago, Robchels said:

You are a self-righteous piece of work aren’t you? :) learn how to respect other opinions without name calling or perhaps discussion forums aren’t for you. Don’t like them, ignore list is for that.

Suspect I’ve seen quite a few more great players than you. I don’t hate Eden. Just think he’s not that special - seen a lot better!

You don’t fucking know me. You don’t know what I like or dislike because I haven’t told you.

Take your own advice regarding the ignore list. Did I fucking quote you? No. So piss off. 

Ya sure, you have seen a lot of great players. I can guess the likes. Respect is given to a respectful opinion. It's one thing to not rate hazard for whatever personal reason, and totally another to try and debauch his legacy with weird opinions and baseless points.

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7 minutes ago, 1905didierblue said:

Take your own advice regarding the ignore list. Did I fucking quote you? No. So piss off. 

Ya sure, you have seen a lot of great players. I can guess the likes. Respect is given to a respectful opinion. It's one thing to not rate hazard for whatever personal reason, and totally another to try and debauch his legacy with weird opinions and baseless points.

You are very wrong. Should we invite some mods to clarify? It’s not up to you to decide who or which opinion is deserving of respect. :)

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2 minutes ago, Robchels said:

You are very wrong. Should we invite some mods to clarify? It’s not up to you to decide who or which opinion is deserving of respect. :)

You can call whoever the hell you want. You can scream your shit theories and opinions off the roof tops, and say I am wrong all you want, does not make it any right. Stats show it, fans know it.

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Not just with the start he's made, but the overall feeling at Madrid at the moment and Zidane not likely to last long term at this rate, it's very possible that Hazard may be available again next summer if things carry on. Very much like what happened with Coutinho.

If he was made available again next summer how many people would have him back?

For me, I would pass on him. He was a great player here but will be 29 by that point and for someone who has played a lot of football since an early age and is hardly the model professional with regards to his work ethic and training/fitness methods I think it would be a big risk because I wonder how long he will be able to continue at the very highest level.

I've also been pleasantly surprised at how good we've looked when attacking this season. Still a work in progress but the signs are there of a more aggressive and direct style of football and I don't believe Hazard would suit what we're trying to do with regards to pressing aggressively and looking to release the ball much quicker. Also are some of these players performing better because we no longer have a talisman we are reliant on.

I definitely wouldn't like to see him back in the league though with someone else. Surely if this doesn't work out, the most logical move would be to PSG in some form of Mbappe or Neymar deal.

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