The English Football Thread

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

18 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Those who do seem to get silenced. 

Anything Palestine related seems to get shutdown. Did you even know that only two players scored a hattrick at the most recent CWC & one of them was Palestinian? FIFA wouldn't even highlight the fact.  

Israel routinely kills Palestinian players 

July 4th 2025

Palestinian football star Fadl al-Lay died on Thursday after being wounded in an Israeli attack on his home this week. 

The attack took place on Monday at the Maghazi refugee camp, central Gaza. Lay's death makes him the second football player to be killed this week in the besieged enclave. Lay was a player for the Al-Maghazi Services Club and the Palestinian national football team.

The Palestinian Football Association said in a statement that: "A drone fired a missile at Muhannad's room on the third floor of his home, causing him  a severe skull haemorrhage, which led to his death." 

The association noted that the footballer attempted to travel outside the blockaded strip to join his wife in Norway before the outbreak of the war, but he was prevented from leaving and was not able to see his family. 

[LAM09 7,043]

59 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Israel routinely kills Palestinian players 

July 4th 2025

Palestinian football star Fadl al-Lay died on Thursday after being wounded in an Israeli attack on his home this week. 

The attack took place on Monday at the Maghazi refugee camp, central Gaza. Lay's death makes him the second football player to be killed this week in the besieged enclave. Lay was a player for the Al-Maghazi Services Club and the Palestinian national football team.

The Palestinian Football Association said in a statement that: "A drone fired a missile at Muhannad's room on the third floor of his home, causing him  a severe skull haemorrhage, which led to his death." 

The association noted that the footballer attempted to travel outside the blockaded strip to join his wife in Norway before the outbreak of the war, but he was prevented from leaving and was not able to see his family. 

It's heart-breaking seeing all the hurt they have inflicted on the country. Some sick individuals think what's happening now is nothing like what happened during Hitler's time. If anything, everything points to it being far worse. 

Evil on earth.

Edited July 21 by LAM09

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Which Premier League clubs do the most transfer deals between them?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6508081/2025/07/23/premier-league-transfer-deals-most-clubs/

As football supporters, we have probably all thought it, or even heard a fellow fan say it — “We’re signing another player from them?”

Generally speaking, Premier League teams are comprised of a broad spectrum of players; some from the United Kingdom, some from abroad. Some join from lower leagues, looking to climb the career ladder, others move from bigger sides on the way down and looking to find their natural level in the game. Some arrive for big fees and on big wages, others from the bargain end of the market.

But sometimes patterns emerge, such as Arsenal and Chelsea doing quite a lot of business, players moving regularly between Newcastle United and Nottingham Forest, Chelsea seemingly having a hotline to Brighton & Hove Albion or a succession of transfers between Everton and Aston Villa.

So, if you are a supporter of a Premier League team wondering whether they do actually do a lot of business with that club you think they do a lot of business with, wonder no longer.

The Athletic, with the help of data website Transfermarkt, which logs all player movement, has been adding up the numbers to compile a table.

We tallied up every instance of a player moving between Premier League clubs since the summer of 2020, when football returned for ‘Project Restart’ after the three-month shutdown due to the Covid-19 pandemic, to the end of the most recent completed transfer window in February this year. The current summer trading period has not been included, but The Athletic will revisit the data after deadline day on September 1. Arsenal and Chelsea will already be rising up the ranking, given the deal last week that took Noni Madueke from Stamford Bridge to the Emirates Stadium.

 

Madueke has joined Arsenal from Chelsea (Francois Nel/Getty Images)

We have included every club that has played in the Premier League in the subsequent five seasons, plus Sunderland, who have won promotion back to the top flight for the forthcoming campaign. That takes the total number of teams to 28.

We counted all signings, including loans and free transfers, to paint a complete picture of how often players move between particular clubs.

While the graphic below highlights the teams that have done business with each other the most, in some cases, deals involving the other 27 are evenly spread. That means they have not cleared the bar — four — with any club for transfers back and forth. Brentford, for example, have not seen more than two players move in either direction between them and any one other Premier League side.

Three was the maximum number for Liverpool (with both Brighton and Fulham), and Wolves (with Manchester City), but for others, there is a well-trodden path between them and one or two of their rivals.

Take Villa and Everton, for example. Since the summer of 2020, six players have moved between them, with Lucas Digne, Amadou Onana and Lewis Dobbin going from Merseyside to the West Midlands and Anwar El Ghazi, Ashley Young and Tim Iroegbunam heading in the opposite direction.

There is no obvious link between the two clubs that would help explain such frequent movement. Young’s switch was on a free transfer, so club-to-club contact would have been minimal. But Irogbunam and Dobbin — young players with a high ‘book value’ — swapping one for the other on successive days last June helped both teams with their profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) compliance.

Only those who brokered the deals will know the motivations for certain, but it is clear that both achieving a high transfer fee for young players only on the fringes of their first team was excellent from an accounting point of view.

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Those six deals give Villa and Everton the joint-highest figure for moves between two clubs in the past five years.

They are matched by Leeds United and Bournemouth, who have racked up the same number of player transfers between them in the same period. Leif Davis, Tyler Adams and Luis Sinisterra twice (once on loan, then permanently) have gone from Elland Road to the Vitality Stadium, with Jaidon Anthony and Joe Rothwell making the opposite switch.

The trend seems fairly random, although Bournemouth appear to have made the most of Leeds’ lower league position and relatively weak bargaining position when the Yorkshire club spent time outside of the top flight.

The five moves between Leeds and Tottenham Hotspur — the former’s next highest number — might owe something to then Elland Road CEO Angus Kinnear’s cordial relationship with Spurs chairman Daniel Levy, which would have made negotiations potentially run more smoothly.

 

Leeds and Spurs have done a lot of business — like for Joe Rodon (George Wood/Getty Images)

There were also six moves between Newcastle and Nottingham Forest. Jack Colback, Jonjo Shelvey, Chris Wood (twice) and Elliot Anderson have headed south from Tyneside, with Odysseas Vlachodimos travelling north. The deals that took Anderson and Vlachodimos in opposite directions on the same day just over a year ago were widely seen as benefiting both clubs’ PSR positions, although the former has turned out to be an effective signing for Forest.

There were also five moves between Forest and Manchester United and between Chelsea and Brighton — a number that would rise to six if the ongoing window was included, with Joao Pedro going from the south coast to the capital.

The Brazilian forward followed Moises Caicedo, Robert Sanchez and Marc Cucurella in making big-money moves from the Amex Stadium to Stamford Bridge in the past five years. Levi Colwill — on loan — and Billy Gilmour went from west London to the seaside resort.

And there are those in the Brighton hierarchy who believe Chelsea’s repeated return visits, chequebook in hand, are a compliment to their highly-successful recruitment model. This ends up acting as a solid extra layer of due diligence for Chelsea’s big-money buys.

There is also the fact Paul Winstanley, one of Chelsea’s co-sporting directors, was previously head of scouting at Brighton. Few will have a better understanding of the players in the club’s current squad — or at least those Brighton signed in his time — than one of the key decision makers at Chelsea.

Who has your club done most deals with?

Arsenal	Chelsea, Fulham (4)
Aston Villa	Everton (6)
Bournemouth	Leeds (6)
Brentford	Arsenal, Burnley, Liverpool (2)
Brighton	Chelsea (5)
Burnley	Man City, Norwich (4)
Chelsea	Brighton (5)
C Palace	Chelsea (4)
Everton	Aston Villa (6)
Fulham	Arsenal, Chelsea (4)
Ipswich	Brighton, West Brom (4)
Leeds	Bournemouth (6)
Leicester	Chelsea, Sheff Utd (4)
Liverpool	Brighton, Fulham (3)
Luton	Aston Villa (5)
Man City	Burnley (4)
Man Utd	N Forest (5)
Newcastle	N Forest (6)
Norwich	Bournemouth, Burnley (4)
N Forest	Newcastle (6)
Sheff Utd	Leicester (4)
Southampton	Bournemouth, West Ham (4)
Sunderland	Leeds, Tottenham (3)
Tottenham	Leeds (5)
Watford	Brighton, Everton, N Forest, West Ham (3)
West Brom	Ipswich (4)
West Ham	Southampton (4)
Wolves	Man City (3)

It is worth noting there are a lot of pairs of clubs among our 28 who have not done any business with each other. Arsenal, for example, have engaged in zero transfers with Burnley, Everton, Ipswich Town, Leeds, Leicester City, Liverpool, Manchester United, Sunderland, Tottenham, Watford and Wolves.

This is repeated across the league.

But it’s clearly not the case between certain teams.

Whether both parties have found mutual PSR benefits by selling and signing players back and forth, or they have used existing relationships, there is often a reason why a club goes back again and again to sign players from the same team.

Expect that to continue — whether or not you wish your lot would go fishing for talent in a slightly different lake.

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England’s Lucy Bronze says she played in Euros with fractured leg: ‘It’s painful but I’m going to party’

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6518788/2025/07/27/england-women-euros-bronze-injury-leg/

England defender Lucy Bronze says that she played the entirety of the Women’s European Championship tournament with a fractured tibia in her left leg. 

The 33-year-old played in all six of England’s matches in a successful Euro campaign, including playing 105 minutes in the final against Spain, which England won via a penalty shootout.

However, the Chelsea defender, who was taken off at half-time of extra-time with a knee injury, revealed after the final whistle that she had entered the tournament with an injury.

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Speaking to BBC Sport after the win, she said: “I’ve played the whole tournament with a fractured tibia, but nobody knew, and I’ve hurt my knee today on my other leg. 

“Which is why the girls gave me a lot of love after the Sweden game because I’ve been in a lot of pain. If that is what it takes to play for England, that is what I’ll do. It’s very painful, but I’m going to party.”

Bronze, who was playing in her seventh major tournament with England, had several key moments during Euro 2025, including a pivotal penalty during the shootout victory over Sweden on July 17.

The defender celebrated with her team-mates with a visible bandage on her right knee and was seen struggling to walk during post-match jubilation. The Euros victory was Bronze’s 26th career trophy.

“We never lost belief in ourselves,” she added. “There was a lot of noise on the outside, but we stuck together. To go to extra time back to back to back is incredible. We give each other energy and what we’ve done today is incredible.

“I don’t think we were thinking too much about the World Cup (final defeat). It always goes that they win, then we win, then they win, so it was our turn today.

“To win on penalties is an amazing feeling, but to lose on penalties is the worst feeling. They (Spain) are great players and they’ve achieved a lot. It wasn’t meant for them today, it was meant for England.”

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Good on Trump for calling out that cunt Sadiq Khan in front of Starmer, proper got him told

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

Can you Fucking believe it.

Kier Starmer  received £8750 of free Arsenal tickets between November and April 2025.

These are tickets for the VIP Directors Lounge where some of the richest people are wined and dined overlooking that dismal pitch.

There were supposed to be 10 Free to air televised PL games this season, but 340 MPs voted against it .....because guess what....drumroll.....they get fucking free tickets paid by broadcasters that charge us ! 

In the VIP Lounge Starmer mixes with the biggest powerbrokers in the UK and the World. deals are done - and lots in favour of Arsenal FC.

Starmer says he needs security which is why he has to go in the VIP Lounge -this is utter bollocks Corbyn and Sunak used to mix with the fans.

Worse Starmer has appointed David Kogan as Independent Football Regulator after he has given Starmer 'donations'.

Corruption all the way

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14 hours ago, Special Juan said:

Good on Trump for calling out that cunt Sadiq Khan in front of Starmer, proper got him told

I support Khan and Labour. Trump is the actual cunt of cunts. 

[bluesman2610 1,415]

Anyone watching the United v Bournemouth game. 
 

1-0 United 

Petrovic rooted

[bluesman2610 1,415]

Make that 2-0

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Lucas Paqueta betting charges ‘found to be not proven’, commission says

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6515053/2025/07/31/lucas-paqueta-betting-case-west-ham/

Lucas Paqueta will not face punishment for alleged breaches of the Football Association’s betting rules after an independent regulatory commission found the charges against the West Ham United midfielder could not be proven.

The Brazil international, who denied all charges against him, was facing a potential lifetime ban from football if found guilty.

However, the regulatory commission found the most serious charges of spot fixing “to be not proven” following a hearing, it said in a statement released by the English FA on Thursday.

The commission did find that two further rule breaches, effectively relating to Paqueta’s co-operation with the FA’s investigation, could be proven and “will decide an appropriate sanction for these breaches at the earliest opportunity”. These two breaches of FA Rule F3 are in relation to the Brazilian’s alleged failures to comply with his obligations to answer questions and provide information to the investigation.

 

Paqueta has featured for West Ham in pre-season (Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)

In a post on Instagram, following the announcement of the commission’s ruling on Thursday, Paqueta wrote: “The enemy will come against us one way, but they will flee seven ways.

“Since the first day of this investigation, I have maintained my innocence against these extremely serious accusations.

“I can’t say anything more now, but I also can’t express how grateful I am to God and how eager I am to return to playing football with a smile on my face.

“To my wife who never let go of my hand, to West Ham, to the fans who always cheered me on, to Fernando Malta and my legal team at Level (Alastair Campbell, Jonathan Hyman, Dan Lowen), Nick De Marco KC, and Kendrah Potts — thank you for everything.”

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The commission’s ruling brings to an end a lengthy process, which started in August 2023 and has been beset by delays.

An initial hearing into the case began in March but was put on hold because lawyers on both sides had other commitments. It eventually concluded in May, with former West Ham manager David Moyes among the witnesses for Paqueta’s defence.

Paqueta was charged by the Football Association with misconduct in May 2024 over four alleged breaches of the governing body’s betting rules following a 10-month investigation that began in August of the previous year.

Paqueta was accused of deliberately getting yellow cards in four Premier League matches between November 2022 and August 2023. The four bookings came in games against Leicester City on November 12, 2022, Aston Villa on March 12, 2023, Leeds United on May 21, 2023, and Bournemouth on August 12, 2023.

The FA alleged that Paqueta ‘directly sought to influence…these matches by intentionally seeking to receive a card from the referee, for the improper purpose of affecting the betting market in order for one or more persons to profit from betting’.

He was also charged with two further rule breaches, effectively relating to his cooperation with the FA’s investigation.

Paqueta denied any wrongdoing and West Ham have backed him throughout the process. He previously called on the FA to undertake a “thorough investigation” into what he called “false and misleading” reporting on the case, claiming information had been leaked by “an individual close to the case”.

West Ham United vice-chair Karren Brady said on Thursday: “We are pleased Lucas has been cleared. He has maintained his innocence from the outset, and as a club we have resolutely stood by him and supported him throughout the process.

“Despite the incredible pressure on him, Lucas has performed week in and week out for the club, always giving everything.

“It has been a difficult time for Lucas and his family, but he has remained absolutely professional throughout and he is now looking forward to drawing a line under this episode, as is everyone at West Ham United.”

Manchester City were interested in signing Paqueta, who has a contract until summer 2027 with the option of a further year, two summers ago but the FA’s investigation ended the then-Premier League champions pursuit of the player.

In May, West Ham head coach Graham Potter revealed the investigation had taken its toll on Paqueta mentally and physically.

He was left in tears after being booked against Tottenham Hotspur on May 4, and Paqueta’s wife, Maria Fournier, later posted on Instagram that they had “been living this nightmare for two years”.

 

Paqueta, after being booked in the 1-1 draw with Tottenham at London Stadium on May 4 (Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

Paqueta’s case is the latest involving breaches of football’s gambling regulations in recent years.

England international Ivan Toney — then of Brentford — was banned from football for eight months in May 2023, while Newcastle United midfielder Sandro Tonali was suspended from all football activity for 10 months following a similar case in Italy. The English FA later handed him a further suspended two-month ban.

Paqueta joined West Ham in August 2022 from French side Lyon and quickly became a key player for the east London club.

He has made 120 appearances for the club in total, including 36 last season after he was cleared to play while the case against him was decided upon.

He was part of the side that won the UEFA Conference League in 2023, starting and playing the full match in the win over Fiorentina in the final.

Paqueta came through the youth ranks at Flamengo in his homeland and made 95 senior appearances before a move to European football with Lyon in 2020. He has won 55 caps for Brazil, scoring 11 goals, and was part of the Copa America-winning squad in 2019.

[Fulham Broadway 17,299]

19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Lucas Paqueta betting charges ‘found to be not proven’, commission says

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6515053/2025/07/31/lucas-paqueta-betting-case-west-ham/

Lucas Paqueta will not face punishment for alleged breaches of the Football Association’s betting rules after an independent regulatory commission found the charges against the West Ham United midfielder could not be proven.

The Brazil international, who denied all charges against him, was facing a potential lifetime ban from football if found guilty.

However, the regulatory commission found the most serious charges of spot fixing “to be not proven” following a hearing, it said in a statement released by the English FA on Thursday.

The commission did find that two further rule breaches, effectively relating to Paqueta’s co-operation with the FA’s investigation, could be proven and “will decide an appropriate sanction for these breaches at the earliest opportunity”. These two breaches of FA Rule F3 are in relation to the Brazilian’s alleged failures to comply with his obligations to answer questions and provide information to the investigation.

 

Paqueta has featured for West Ham in pre-season (Patrick McDermott/Getty Images)

In a post on Instagram, following the announcement of the commission’s ruling on Thursday, Paqueta wrote: “The enemy will come against us one way, but they will flee seven ways.

“Since the first day of this investigation, I have maintained my innocence against these extremely serious accusations.

“I can’t say anything more now, but I also can’t express how grateful I am to God and how eager I am to return to playing football with a smile on my face.

“To my wife who never let go of my hand, to West Ham, to the fans who always cheered me on, to Fernando Malta and my legal team at Level (Alastair Campbell, Jonathan Hyman, Dan Lowen), Nick De Marco KC, and Kendrah Potts — thank you for everything.”

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The commission’s ruling brings to an end a lengthy process, which started in August 2023 and has been beset by delays.

An initial hearing into the case began in March but was put on hold because lawyers on both sides had other commitments. It eventually concluded in May, with former West Ham manager David Moyes among the witnesses for Paqueta’s defence.

Paqueta was charged by the Football Association with misconduct in May 2024 over four alleged breaches of the governing body’s betting rules following a 10-month investigation that began in August of the previous year.

Paqueta was accused of deliberately getting yellow cards in four Premier League matches between November 2022 and August 2023. The four bookings came in games against Leicester City on November 12, 2022, Aston Villa on March 12, 2023, Leeds United on May 21, 2023, and Bournemouth on August 12, 2023.

The FA alleged that Paqueta ‘directly sought to influence…these matches by intentionally seeking to receive a card from the referee, for the improper purpose of affecting the betting market in order for one or more persons to profit from betting’.

He was also charged with two further rule breaches, effectively relating to his cooperation with the FA’s investigation.

Paqueta denied any wrongdoing and West Ham have backed him throughout the process. He previously called on the FA to undertake a “thorough investigation” into what he called “false and misleading” reporting on the case, claiming information had been leaked by “an individual close to the case”.

West Ham United vice-chair Karren Brady said on Thursday: “We are pleased Lucas has been cleared. He has maintained his innocence from the outset, and as a club we have resolutely stood by him and supported him throughout the process.

“Despite the incredible pressure on him, Lucas has performed week in and week out for the club, always giving everything.

“It has been a difficult time for Lucas and his family, but he has remained absolutely professional throughout and he is now looking forward to drawing a line under this episode, as is everyone at West Ham United.”

Manchester City were interested in signing Paqueta, who has a contract until summer 2027 with the option of a further year, two summers ago but the FA’s investigation ended the then-Premier League champions pursuit of the player.

In May, West Ham head coach Graham Potter revealed the investigation had taken its toll on Paqueta mentally and physically.

He was left in tears after being booked against Tottenham Hotspur on May 4, and Paqueta’s wife, Maria Fournier, later posted on Instagram that they had “been living this nightmare for two years”.

 

Paqueta, after being booked in the 1-1 draw with Tottenham at London Stadium on May 4 (Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

Paqueta’s case is the latest involving breaches of football’s gambling regulations in recent years.

England international Ivan Toney — then of Brentford — was banned from football for eight months in May 2023, while Newcastle United midfielder Sandro Tonali was suspended from all football activity for 10 months following a similar case in Italy. The English FA later handed him a further suspended two-month ban.

Paqueta joined West Ham in August 2022 from French side Lyon and quickly became a key player for the east London club.

He has made 120 appearances for the club in total, including 36 last season after he was cleared to play while the case against him was decided upon.

He was part of the side that won the UEFA Conference League in 2023, starting and playing the full match in the win over Fiorentina in the final.

Paqueta came through the youth ranks at Flamengo in his homeland and made 95 senior appearances before a move to European football with Lyon in 2020. He has won 55 caps for Brazil, scoring 11 goals, and was part of the Copa America-winning squad in 2019.

Well thats ok then. Nothing to see here, move along now....

Its a warning shot by the FA. Basically saying ''we know a lot of players are at it, and we're watching you''

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Guardiola wanted a smaller squad. Instead it’s grown. How can Man City trim it?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6526978/2025/08/01/manchester-city-squad-guardiola-trim/

It has been 73 days since Pep Guardiola said he would quit Manchester City if he did not have a smaller squad next season.

That was in May, after a comfortable win at home against Bournemouth, when his lip quivered after committing what he views as the heinous act of leaving four senior players festering at home.

Joking or not, he might have to leave a dozen at home for the opening match against Wolverhampton Wanderers.

Two weeks out from the start of the new Premier League season, the mission to condense the squad still needs work. Rather than trim, City have made a net addition of two first-team players this summer.

Sometimes, taking two steps forward and one step back is the way to progress. That is certainly how City will view it, having acted rapidly to acquire their main targets before the Club World Cup.

Buying before selling has the benefit that other clubs cannot hold them to ransom, knowing there is money burning a hole in their pocket.

But signing James Trafford, Marcus Bettinelli, Rayan Ait-Nouri, Tijjani Reijnders and Rayan Cherki means Guardiola has 31 players.

While there has been a conscious effort to reduce the squad’s average age and wage bill, it is an expensive squad to run, with several players surplus to requirements and others seemingly having little chance of regular minutes.

Here is The Athletic’s assessment of the situation…

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What needs to be done?

City had the luxury of two leading men for part of this summer. New sporting director Hugo Viana, almost four months into his role since joining from Sporting CP, was being supported by director of football Txiki Begiristain as part of a transition, but he ended his 13-year spell this week.

Viana will continue to be aided by Carlos Raphael Moersen, who is director of football transactions at City Football Group (CFG, the club’s overarching owner) and has been helping lead some negotiations with prospective buyers this summer.

City have brought in some money — Kyle Walker has moved to Burnley for a fee that could reach £5million ($6.6m), Maximo Perrone’s switch to Como is worth €15million (£13m; $17m) and €24m has arrived after Yan Couto’s loan deal at Borussia Dortmund was made permanent.

But to get numbers down, established players will have to leave soon.

Finding permanent takers for Kalvin Phillips, given the financial package of a fee plus wages, has been tricky. Jack Grealish and James McAtee are expected to leave too.

 

Kalvin Phillips was on loan at relegated Ipswich Town last season (Alex Davidson/Getty Images)

The fourth expected exit is goalkeeper Stefan Ortega, as City now have four senior goalkeepers following Trafford’s arrival.

City want Ederson to stay until the end of his contract next year and are open to selling Ortega, who also has a year left on his deal and wants to play regularly as he looks to break into Germany’s squad for the World Cup next summer.

Then there is the possibility of allowing younger players to go out on loan. Sverre Nypan, the 18-year-old who joined from Rosenborg for £12.5million, will go out on loan as part of a development plan but a prospective move to Ajax is thought to no longer be on the cards.

La Liga club Girona, part of the CFG network, are keen on loaning Vitor Reis and Claudio Echeverri.

A year in Spain represents a good development opportunity for Reis, who is 19 and joined the club in January from Palmeiras for £29.5million. He is highly rated internally but showed in his second start for City against Wydad at the Club World Cup that there are parts of his game that need work.

Echeverri is also 19 but represents a different case. Guardiola is a huge admirer and saw fit to bring Echeverri on for his debut in the FA Cup final just months after arriving from Argentina.

Girona would love to have him, while Roma have made a case for a year in Italy, but City are deliberating whether it would be better to keep him in-house to learn from the manager and other forwards such as Erling Haaland and Omar Marmoush.

Oscar Bobb is very likely to stay, with the 22-year-old winger impressing Guardiola last summer before a fractured leg ruined his season.

Nico O’Reilly faces a fight for minutes due to the arrival of Ait-Nouri at left-back, where he impressed last season. The plan is for O’Reilly, 20, to stay, as he can also operate in his more natural midfielder role.

McAtee is more established but his role last season was largely restricted to substitute cameos. Nottingham Forest have been discussing a fee of around £25million for him but Viana wants more. Eintracht Frankfurt, who McAtee visited last month, view these sums as out of their league.

In defence, City are overstocked, with 10 players across the back four, leading to speculation that one or two could depart. John Stones was not given a single minute at the Club World Cup despite fully recovering from an injury-ravaged season. The England centre-back, who has a year left on his deal, said during the Club World Cup that he did not want to leave and there is no prospect of him departing this summer.

Manuel Akanji and Abdukodir Khusanov are two others with a point to prove. Khusanov, 21, barely featured in the final few months of the season after joining from Nice in January, but no approaches have been made.

In midfield, there is an argument that City are also overstocked. It remains to be seen how quickly Rodri can regain form after his anterior cruciate ligament injury, so the cover provided by Nico Gonzalez and Mateo Kovacic could be important. Tijjani Reijnders can also drop back to play as the deeper No 6.

 

Tijjani Reijnders was one of City’s summer additions (Kevin C Cox/Getty Images)

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Could City face an issue registering players?

Premier League clubs will have to register their official 25-man squad after the transfer window closes on September 1.

They can only name a maximum of 17 non-homegrown senior players, with the rest of the squad comprising ‘homegrown players’ — those who have trained at an English club for three seasons (or 36) months between the ages of 15 and 21, regardless of nationality.

City have 17 non-homegrown players above the age of 21 and nine homegrown players above the age of 21.

That is only one too many, a situation aided by the Premier League rule that dictates under-21 players, those born after January 1, 2004, do not take up spaces in the 25-man squad.

Rico Lewis, Khusanov, Reis, O’Reilly, Savinho and Echeverri all fall into that category, although 22-year-old Bobb becomes a senior homegrown player for the first time.

There are different rules in the Champions League, so if City do not loan or sell anyone else, they would have to leave four non-homegrown players out in the cold.

UEFA’s ‘A list’ does not offer the same blanket exclusion for under-21 players. They have to be under-21 and homegrown, which means Khusanov, Reis, Savinho and Echeverri all require a space, unlike in the Premier League.

Eight spaces are exclusively reserved for locally trained players, with no more than four of that total made up of association-trained players reared at other English clubs.

Even if Grealish, Phillips and McAtee all leave, that will not be an issue for City, with Trafford, O’Reilly, Lewis, Bobb and Foden all club-trained, and Betinelli, Stones and Ake all association-trained. It is another reason the two goalkeepers were recruited this summer.

The risk of carrying such a bloated squad is not just regulatory, however. It is a matter of identity and contentment, too. Players at this level possess egos and pride. They want to contribute and feel like a valued member of the squad but it is difficult to achieve across an entire squad, with so many players being reduced to a spectator role.

City were quick out of the blocks this window but they need to start getting a shift on if they are to satisfy Guardiola’s demand for an optimised squad.