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If Rooney joined he is guaranteed to start EVERY SINGLE GAME HE WANTS, providing he is fit and on form of course. There is no rotation because then it would be nothing difference from at MU for him. He is only moving here(if he moves) it is to start at ST REGULARLY. He will be untouchable here, partly because he would cost a lot to get and on highest wages out of the entire team. Just like when Torres was signed in 2011, Rooney will start always unless he becomes as crap as Torres was/injured/have a break up with Jose like Casillas.

Lukaku would then be back up all the time. Ba will probably be sold/loaned out, same with Torres but I don't think both will go/ maybe only one. Which ever stay will be 3rd choice.

Ba or Torres will probably be sold in case we get Rooney. But Rooney won't sulk here the same way he did at Utd. Mourinho is the boss and the spoilt brat will obey. if not it is bench for him again and he will be the laughing stock of the country. Mourinho has the authority Moyes hasn't. The more shit Rooney does now the less space for those little games of him will be here.

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+Lukaku did score more goals than Rooney in the PL last season.

Well Rooney played CM/CAM in most of the games, some time on the wing so obviously he doesn't have the advantage Lukaku had of playing ST all the time.

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Well Rooney played CM/CAM in most of the games, some time on the wing so obviously he doesn't have the advantage Lukaku had of playing ST all the time.

Yes a good point but I don't get why ppl have so little faith in Lukaku. Sure he's only 20 but who says 20 year olds can't be good strikers when a 12 year old became a doctor! Regarding the stat Lukaku scored 5 more goals in PL than Rooney so who says he can't improve that tally now that this season he will play us who have better players than WBA.

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Yes a good point but I don't get why ppl have so little faith in Lukaku. Sure he's only 20 but who says 20 year olds can't be good strikers when a 12 year old became a doctor! Regarding the stat Lukaku scored 5 more goals in PL than Rooney so who says he can't improve that tally now that this season he will play us who have better players than WBA.

Lukaku scored quite a few pens last season for them I think, like 5-6. At us he won't get that, Hazard will probably take it and then Lampard is here too. It is not people are not having fate in him, it is that people are putting TOO MUCH RISK ON HIS SHOULDER. It is basically Lukaku or bust with our current strike force because as we know Ba/Torres is useless, this preseason shows nothing have changed with these 2. Lukaku don't deserve to be crushed by pressure, remember when Ronaldo, Rooney...etc start at MU at young age they were also back up, not straight starter as at the time Van Nisterooy, Bekcham was ahead of them.

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Lukaku scored quite a few pens last season for them I think, like 5-6. At us he won't get that, Hazard will probably take it and then Lampard is here too. It is not people are not having fate in him, it is that people are putting TOO MUCH RISK ON HIS SHOULDER. It is basically Lukaku or bust with our current strike force because as we know Ba/Torres is useless, this preseason shows nothing have changed with these 2. Lukaku don't deserve to be crushed by pressure, remember when Ronaldo, Rooney...etc start at MU at young age they were also back up, not straight starter as at the time Van Nisterooy, Bekcham was ahead of them.

Beckham wasn't a CF. Was he? I'm just saying if we don't get Rooney we at least have Lukaku.

And if that doesn't work we can always use Hazard as a false 9 ;p :-P

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Lukaku scored quite a few pens last season for them I think, like 5-6. At us he won't get that, Hazard will probably take it and then Lampard is here too. It is not people are not having fate in him, it is that people are putting TOO MUCH RISK ON HIS SHOULDER. It is basically Lukaku or bust with our current strike force because as we know Ba/Torres is useless, this preseason shows nothing have changed with these 2. Lukaku don't deserve to be crushed by pressure, remember when Ronaldo, Rooney...etc start at MU at young age they were also back up, not straight starter as at the time Van Nisterooy, Bekcham was ahead of them.

Absolutely spot-on. After a very impressive season at West Bromwich Albion, where he wasn't even first choice at the beginning of the season, I think it would take a very harsh bastard to say Lukaku isn't ready for his chance at Chelsea. He is certainly worth a go. But when your only other striking options are:

• Demba Ba - I really like Demba. He is quite slow, but very dangerous with the ball at his feet. He is a predatory striker, but one thing he has in his locker is the ability to use his power to knock defenders out of the way. He won't score many goals, but his positioning and ability to attract attention of the defenders opens up the space for the pacey players like Hazard and Moses to exploit.
• Fernando Torres - I love Torres, even though he is well past-it. But that doesn't mean I'm unrealistic over his contribution. He isn't as good as people make him out to be when he does something well, but neither is he the useless crock of shit the majority believe he is. You don't score 23 goals in a season by being a bad player. Torres is a completely different option to Lukaku and Ba as he uses his pace to play on the shoulder. Last season at times we saw players finally clicking on how to service Fernando - David Luiz especially realised the long ball into the channel works well for him. There is still something to offer from Fernando, IMO
• Victor Moses and Andre Schurrle - they won't really be given a go, but if we're struck by injuries you may see one of these players lead the line, but in a slightly withdrawn false-number-9 role. Again, totally different options.

These are good options, but nothing better than good. None of these players are of the quality of Dzeko, Suarez, Aguero, Robin van Persie, Roberto Soldado and several other high-profile forwards playing for our direct rivals. Rooney, however, is. He offers something totally different - which is important here, as it knocks no-one's nose out of joint.

So, I repeat - all of our strikers are okay and offer something different and individual - but an in-form and fit Rooney offers something so different and versatile that it is a step up on our current options. As for Lukaku, no-one is doubting his ability to score goals - but will our current forwards score enough goals to win us the title? Probably not. Rooney+Lukaku+either Ba or Torres will.

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Well Rooney played CM/CAM in most of the games, some time on the wing so obviously he doesn't have the advantage Lukaku had of playing ST all the time.

But Lukaku only started 5 times and played on the wing quite often. Rooney was injured and not fit last season, I think that is the only acceptable excuse for his mediocre year. Our bid to sign him is based on the believe that he will recover his form of 2010. This is not because the media or Abramovich believe it but because Mou believes it. That is the only assurance we got. We can trust it or not. So I think it is futile to try to vindicate his performances of late.

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But Lukaku only started 5 times and played on the wing quite often. Rooney was injured and not fit last season, I think that is the only acceptable excuse for his mediocre year. Our bid to sign him is based on the believe that he will recover his form of 2010. This is not because the media or Abramovich believe it but because Mou believes it. That is the only assurance we got. We can trust it or not. So I think it is futile to try to vindicate his performances of late.

Why do you want his form in 2010 when his form in 2012 is better and regarding his injury, it wasn't even his fault, remember this?

Lukaku only started 5 times, what? He start a lot more than that just from my memory and he wasn't, he played ST every time he came on/in.

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if you watched the passing against ac milan to torres.

if lukaku was on the field then and got those passes. with the pace he's got it was 1v1 with the keeper.

lukaku is fast and strong, he's first touch was better against inter and AC milan but not top.

if he used his body in small spaces like he uses he's body to outrun the defenders then he would be my first choice

now he still has a lot to learn butt that will come in time

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Yes a good point but I don't get why ppl have so little faith in Lukaku. Sure he's only 20 but who says 20 year olds can't be good strikers when a 12 year old became a doctor! Regarding the stat Lukaku scored 5 more goals in PL than Rooney so who says he can't improve that tally now that this season he will play us who have better players than WBA.

I've got massive faith in Lukaku, but I think Rooney would be a good signing for us. If we get 5 seasons out of him then that's great and at the end of it Lukaku is 25 - one year younger than Drogba was when we signed him.

But Lukaku only started 5 times and played on the wing quite often. Rooney was injured and not fit last season, I think that is the only acceptable excuse for his mediocre year. Our bid to sign him is based on the believe that he will recover his form of 2010. This is not because the media or Abramovich believe it but because Mou believes it. That is the only assurance we got. We can trust it or not. So I think it is futile to try to vindicate his performances of late.

I'd take his 34 goals in 2012 too.

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I've got massive faith in Lukaku, but I think Rooney would be a good signing for us. If we get 5 seasons out of him then that's great and at the end of it Lukaku is 25 - one year younger than Drogba was when we signed him.

I'd take his 34 goals in 2012 too.

Nah I just felt some ppl here doubted Lukaku dunno why. But yea 5 good seasons from Rooney would be perfect. My point was anyway not about Rooney but more about Lukaku.

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If that's what it takes to bring Rooney to Chelsea. I'll....I'll.....I'll (OTHER SIDE OF BRAIN: NO NEVER!) No I will! If that's what it takes to bring him then I'll

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If we sell luiz( i really don't want that), then Mou will bring Rooney in even if it means 40m. That'll make this transfer window a disappointment

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You know what's criminal ? Assault. Like say biting someone in the arm for no reason what so ever.

Apparently you can't post "controversial" opinions on this forum without getting hit with ad hominems, off topic posts and silly gifs. Unfortunately everyone seem to be bigging up this sort of debating.

Some counter arguments would be nice for a change. I guess it all boils down to people's dislike of Suárez so the only thing the can come up with is calling him a scumbag, racist, Dracula, cheat et cet. That's fine with me! Just say something like "Rooney is less value for money but I don't like Suárez personally so that's why I think Roon is a better deal". Simple civilised argument without going off topic.

[You know we have players too that many football fans dislike. I like Terry, Cole as Chelsea players. I try not to care too much about footballers' personal lives and as a long as a player doesn't intentionally ruin the team or injure other players, who am I to judge? (Yes biting Ivanovic was really stupid but Ivan has forgiven him so maybe we can move on from that incident for the time being?)]

Me personally I can admit a strong argument against signing Suárez would be that he would clearly divide the fanbase, much like Rafa Benitez did. Obviously it would have to be some very special circumstances for us to sign a player if it would mean risking a toxic atmosphere at the Bridge.

Before someone asks me why I'm so keen on Suárez... Ideally we would make do with the strikers we have at our disposal but since it has become clear that won't cut it with our fans nor our manager, and the only two realistic alternatives at the moment are Wayne and Luis, all I'm picking sides for who I believe is the better player and option. I'm vocal about it because I believe paying the money being touted for Wayne would be a mistake that's all.

oh and "don't like it, leave" "don't let the door hit you on your way out". saved some people their typing.

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Apparently you can't post "controversial" opinions on this forum without getting hit with ad hominems, off topic posts and silly gifs. Unfortunately everyone seem to be bigging up this sort of debating.

Some counter arguments would be nice for a change. I guess it all boils down to people's dislike of Suárez so the only thing the can come up with is calling him a scumbag, racist, Dracula, cheat et cet. You know we have players too that many football fans dislike. I like Terry, Cole as Chelsea players. I try not to care too much about footballers' personal lives and as a long as a player doesn't intentionally ruin the team or injure other players, who am I to judge? (Yes biting Ivanovic was really stupid but Ivan has forgiven him so maybe we can move on from that incident for the time being?)

That's fine with me! Just say something like "Rooney is less value for money but I don't like Suárez personally so that's why I think Roon is a better deal". Simple civilised argument without going off topic.

Me personally I can admit a strong argument against signing Suárez would be that he would clearly divide the fanbase, much like Rafa Benitez did. Obviously it would have to be some very special circumstances for us to sign a player if it would mean risking a toxic atmosphere at the Bridge.

Before someone asks me why I'm so keen on Suárez... Ideally we would make do with the strikers we have at our disposal but since it has become clear that won't cut it with our fans nor our manager, and the only two realistic alternatives at the moment are Wayne and Luis, all I'm picking sides for who I believe is the better player and option. I'm vocal about it because I believe paying the money being touted for Wayne would be a mistake that's all.

oh and "don't like it, leave" "don't let the door hit you on your way out". saved some people their typing.

It's not the fact you're putting a controversial point across. That opinion I respect.

It's the way you said you're going to such extreme lengths. Will you really "cry tears of sorrow" or "dive off a mountain" if we sign Rooney? Pass whatever you're smoking