The Ancelotti Thread

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Gibson is fucking 23 years old. He's two times stronger than Josh. He has played a lot of games.

A agree that they need to play, but Josh got enough for this season. Can you blame Carlo because Josh hasn't matured physically?

I expect Kakuta to play more next season. At least he should.

23 but his integration into the Man Utd side began a couple of seasons ago. If your looking for younger examples then Rafael and Fabio or Chris Smalling or Hernandez or even Nani or before that Ronaldo.

Seriously if we are basing it on strenght then we might aswell let McEachran go now because he is never going to develop into Michael Essien in the strenght department, if we are going on that logic then I dont know why people talk about Iniesta or Messi because neither is likely to win a strongman competition anytime soon. What McEachran does have though is tonnes of technical ability, guile and vision, something our midfield doesn't have.

I expect Sturridge to be a regular in the starting 11 but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if on the opening day of next season, if Ancelotti is still in charge, the teamsheet read Malouda, Drogba and Kalou up front.

[eldo 868]

23 but his integration into the Man Utd side began a couple of seasons ago. If your looking for younger examples then Rafael and Fabio or Chris Smalling or Hernandez or even Nani or before that Ronaldo.

Seriously if we are basing it on strenght then we might aswell let McEachran go now because he is never going to develop into Michael Essien in the strenght department, if we are going on that logic then I dont know why people talk about Iniesta or Messi because neither is likely to win a strongman competition anytime soon. What McEachran does have though is tonnes of technical ability, guile and vision, something our midfield doesn't have.

I expect Sturridge to be a regular in the starting 11 but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if on the opening day of next season, if Ancelotti is still in charge, the teamsheet read Malouda, Drogba and Kalou up front.

Ok I get your poit. Fergie is good at doing that.

But those players are were born in 90,89,88. Josh 93.

Messi is short but he's strong. Josh still has a body of a teenager. He will be good in a year or two.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Ok I get your poit. Fergie is good at doing that.

But those players are were born in 90,89,88. Josh 93.

Messi is short but he's strong. Josh still has a body of a teenager. He will be good in a year or two.

Ye but all of them were gradually introduced into the starting line up from a young age. As I said, Im not saying McEachran should start ahead of Lampard every week but surely a few Premier League starts would do him the world of good? Get some genuinely competitive games under his belt, Messi (despite being very lightweight) was starting games for Barcelona at a young age too. I really dont think this is a new concept, its just gradually introducing a young player into a starting line up so that he feels comfortable to play when called upon but we seem to fail to do that with our young players.

[Blueboy 14]

I expect Sturridge to be a regular in the starting 11 but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if on the opening day of next season, if Ancelotti is still in charge, the teamsheet read Malouda, Drogba and Kalou up front.

I'm also scared of seeing that tbh. Sturridge certainly should be given more of chance next season. And with a chance i don't mean substitute apperaences but really starting games. Kakuta the same, get some creativity in the side. Bruma and PVA are also players who are ready for the next step. They both have had good spells at their clubs on loan and looking at the performances of our senior players, what's to lose?

[The Big Drog 1,110]

I'm also scared of seeing that tbh. Sturridge certainly should be given more of chance next season. And with a chance i don't mean substitute apperaences but really starting games. Kakuta the same, get some creativity in the side. Bruma and PVA are also players who are ready for the next step. They both have had good spells at their clubs on loan and looking at the performances of our senior players, what's to lose?

At the very least Sturridge should be a nailed on starter and Kakuta having the Kalou role of super sub and occasional starter.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

I'm also scared of seeing that tbh. Sturridge certainly should be given more of chance next season. And with a chance i don't mean substitute apperaences but really starting games. Kakuta the same, get some creativity in the side. Bruma and PVA are also players who are ready for the next step. They both have had good spells at their clubs on loan and looking at the performances of our senior players, what's to lose?

Just read these quotes on the officla Chelsea site from Ancelotti.

Asked whether he feels the squad needs rejuvenating, Ancelotti pointed to recent purchases to suggest the balance is right.

'This year arrived some fantastic players, Ramires, David Luiz and Fernando Torres, and I think that this year that was enough. For the future I don't know but I don't think this team needs to have a lot of movement. Now is not the right time,' he said.

Surely thats exactly the opposite of what we need. I mean over the course of the season he must have noticed how stale we are, he must realise that certain players are the wrong side of 30 and need replacing or at least adequate cover, surely he must know that there is too much deadweight in the current squad that needs an overhaul. Exactly the same problem that he created at Milan, Ancelotti wants to maintain the status quo.

[eldo 868]

Ye but all of them were gradually introduced into the starting line up from a young age. As I said, Im not saying McEachran should start ahead of Lampard every week but surely a few Premier League starts would do him the world of good? Get some genuinely competitive games under his belt, Messi (despite being very lightweight) was starting games for Barcelona at a young age too. I really dont think this is a new concept, its just gradually introducing a young player into a starting line up so that he feels comfortable to play when called upon but we seem to fail to do that with our young players.

Maybe aou are right.

But I just think that now isn't the best time for Josh to get more.

He played more than any of those last season. Year ago anyone expected Josh to play that much?

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Maybe aou are right.

But I just think that now isn't the best time for Josh to get more.

He played more than any of those last season. Year ago anyone expected Josh to play that much?

No but by the same token a year ago did you expect Sturridge and Kakuta to get so few first team opportunities with us?

Given how well McEachran played in his few performances I think he warranted more than he has gotten.

[BLionheart 516]

Carlo will leave whether you like it or not !!!

And the explanation is very simple :

It's not that he wastes our youth talent

It's not that his substitutions are shit

It's not that he is poor tactically

It's not because he lacks motivation

It's simply because of Lampard , Essien , Drogba , and most recently Torres ..... i can understand if malouda , kalou , anelka and co. have a bad game and we say that was their faults ..... but Lamps , Essien , Drogba have been consistently world-class players for over 6 years !!!!

do you really believe that they suddenly got old and lost it , O.K. if Drogba and Lamps got old what about Essien and Torres !!!

I mean is there any player who has improved under carlo's management ?? and don't tell me malouda because he has improved because of hiddink and not carlo .

A good manager knows how to get the best out of his players and carlo knows nothing about that ...

We have the best squad in the EPl atm , full of world class players and there is not one team that has the quality of players we do but they still look like below average players.

give any manager the choice between essien and park , Mikel and Carrick , Lamps and giggs , Drogba and hernandez , terry and ferdinand , cole and evra , ivanovic and oshea and he will choose the blue players !! but right now the other ones looks superb for them , that is because they are bad managed and misused and if you have a better explanation please let me know ..... our confidence seems to be lost and our stars are out shone by average players .

CARLO ANCELOTTI MUST AND WILL LEAVE IN THE SUMMER , THANKS MR. NICE GUY BUT PLEASE BE NICE AND JUST FUCK OFF

[Sparkie 27]

is there any player who has improved under carlo's management

Ramires has improved.

[Henrique 9,133]

Ramires has improved.

Lie. Ramires is better than this. He improved his terrible peformances of the beginning of the season, but he didnt improved as a player.

[Gappy 130]

Buy a Winger for what ??

Ancelotti didn't have any space for winger in his formation and He was never change that since he manage Milan

[ack17 205]

My final expectation on Ancelotti is 'Play McEachran in last two matches'

[LDN Blue 7,903]

My final expectation on Ancelotti is 'Play McEachran in last two matches'

Then I'd prepare for disappointment sadly.

[spuz 143]

We've failed to win on 23 occasions this season.

[Tomo 21,751]

Whats with this McEachran doesnt get loads of playing time bolax?

He has still featured FIFTEEN times this season which is well above the average for a player in the 17-18 bracket, Beckham didnt break through the United team until he was 20.

In the year they were 17 turning 18

Lampard was on loan at Swansea

Cech was playing for a club called Blasny and only made 1 appearance that season

Terry was still awaiting his Chelsea debut

Essien was still awaiting his professional debut.

Just because he aint playing every week at 17 DOESNT mean he aint going to make it

[spuz 143]

Let's not forget that Sturridge (21 yrs old) didn't really get any chances despite Drogs having malaria.

This is my fear and I think many others on here when they mention Josh not getting game time. Under carlo I can't see it happening.

[bluephoenix 1,131]

Let's not forget that Sturridge (21 yrs old) didn't really get any chances despite Drogs having malaria.

This is my fear and I think many others on here when they mention Josh not getting game time. Under carlo I can't see it happening.

Who do you think will best fill the manager role for us?

Season after season we keep manager hopping, and this is really getting sick. We don't win a silverware one season and the next thing you know the coach is gone.

We need a long term coach like Manu,Arsenal have. IMHO I want CA to stay unless the person replacing him is Frank Rijkaard or Mourinho

[steve5221 91]

I have had a look on Wikipedia and looked at the league points total of the Ambramovich era:

2003-2004 - 90 pts won title 60 pts came fourth

2004-2005 - 95 pts won title 61 pts came fourth

2005-2006 - 91 pts won title 67 pts came fourth

2006-2007- 89 pts won title 68 pts came fourth

2007-2008 - 87 pts won title 76 pts came fourth

2008-2009 - 90 pts won title 72 pts came fourth

2009-2010 - 86 pts won title 70 pts came fourth

Given we currently have 70 points, i think we will end up with 73 possibly 74. On seasons gone by that would have got us 3rd once, 4th five times, and FIFTH once.

Make of that what you will.......

[The Big Drog 1,110]

I have had a look on Wikipedia and looked at the league points total of the Ambramovich era:

2003-2004 - 90 pts won title 60 pts came fourth

2004-2005 - 95 pts won title 61 pts came fourth

2005-2006 - 91 pts won title 67 pts came fourth

2006-2007- 89 pts won title 68 pts came fourth

2007-2008 - 87 pts won title 76 pts came fourth

2008-2009 - 90 pts won title 72 pts came fourth

2009-2010 - 86 pts won title 70 pts came fourth

Given we currently have 70 points, i think we will end up with 73 possibly 74. On seasons gone by that would have got us 3rd once, 4th five times, and FIFTH once.

Make of that what you will.......

Shocking, I cant believe how much standards have dropped.