Official - Carlo sacked

[Tomo 21,733]

When has McEachran stepped into the first team? He has started a few games and none of them in the Premier League (I think Im right in saying). Now he cant even get a spot on the bench. Rafael and Fabio were given far more opportunities much sooner once they were available.

Fabio made 2 appearances in 08/09 at the age of 18, the next season at the age of 19 he made 11, now he starting to break through, McEachran is much higher in development than Fabio was at that age and even Rafeal werent playing regually at 17, Josh will be class give him time.

[eldo 868]

Rafael appeared 16 times during that season for Man Utd. Josh McEachran has appeared 7 times for us this season and of those appearances, how many of them were starts in competitive games? Thats the difference that needs addressing.

Didn't he get 15 apps this season in all competitions?

There's one thing about Josh. He needs to mature.

[neel 257]

They won the cup, and we were in final two years before, but step from reserves/u18s is quite big.

I know it is a big step . I dont expect them to play week in and week out. But problem is CA never showed trust on them even when we were winning .

[Tomo 21,733]

I know it is a big step . I dont expect them to play week in and week out. But problem is CA never showed trust on them even when we were winning .

Maybe he should have played them more but depsite all this not one of our managers has as much as looked at the youth since Vialli, Ancelotti is alteast showing intent on that topic.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

So if Ramires and David Luiz are Carlo buy, then why the hell you don't want this man buying more players???

Seriously think about that.

Having Mourinho back??? Why would Roman want that?

Roman sack him for a reason, and he is not about to bow them to him again.

Hiddink if you have not learned, said he does not want to coach a club any more. Pointless in discussing that when the man said that.

And Villa-Boas...i give you that, but the man has to prove himself next season. He will play the CL with Porto, and maybe then we can judge.

I dont think you understand that first point Im making. The point is that if we are seriously going to do a squad overhaul in the Sumemr and bring in new players to replace the old ones then its absolutely vital that we have a manager in charge who the board think is there for the long term, who can achieve long term success. If we let Ancelotti stay on next season and we allow him to have a hand in the Summer transfers and then we get a new manager for the following season, maybe he wont like the players that Ancelotti has bought, maybe he will want bring in his own players and then what? Also perhaps the players who Ancelotti will have brought in during the Summer wont be happy that the man who brought them to the club is now gone. I think if we are making sweeping changes then that must include the manager.

Mourinho is a long shot but if it were possible then Id love it to happen. Maybe we can convince Hiddink? Maybe we can get Van Gaal? Boas is an excellent coach who has worked at Chelsea before, I think he would be a fantastic appointment.

Didn't he get 15 apps this season in all competitions?

There's one thing about Josh. He needs to mature.

Haven't a clue, thats the stat I found on wikipedia. But how does anybody expect him to mature if he doesn;t get any game time with the first team?

[Styles 9,790]

His time's up. Thanks and good bye.

[Milan 17,853]

It must be frustrating for him - he obviously wants to stay but he has no guarantees as the board will inform him after the season. That's not nice from our board.

[Guest justin_3d]

I dont think you understand that first point Im making. The point is that if we are seriously going to do a squad overhaul in the Sumemr and bring in new players to replace the old ones then its absolutely vital that we have a manager in charge who the board think is there for the long term, who can achieve long term success. If we let Ancelotti stay on next season and we allow him to have a hand in the Summer transfers and then we get a new manager for the following season, maybe he wont like the players that Ancelotti has bought, maybe he will want bring in his own players and then what? Also perhaps the players who Ancelotti will have brought in during the Summer wont be happy that the man who brought them to the club is now gone. I think if we are making sweeping changes then that must include the manager.

Mourinho is a long shot but if it were possible then Id love it to happen. Maybe we can convince Hiddink? Maybe we can get Van Gaal? Boas is an excellent coach who has worked at Chelsea before, I think he would be a fantastic appointment.

Haven't a clue, thats the stat I found on wikipedia. But how does anybody expect him to mature if he doesn;t get any game time with the first team?

So why didn't Avram got that? Why didn't Scolari got that? Why didn't Carlo got that?

Sorry, but if these coaches had to tough it up with players some other coach bought, then who ever comes in will have to.

From what i seen, Carlo is doing the right buys, and he should continue buying talented players like Ramires, and David Luiz. Except this time we need a RB, Creative mid, and winger.

And last, you mention Van Gaal??? A guy who won the double, and then got sack in the second season for having a bad season like Carlo???

Sounds kinda awkward to me.

The only coach i see as good are Bielsa and Villa-Boas. But Bielsa is never coming, cause he won't put up with Roman. And Villa-Boas, needs a season or two at Porto. We have to see how he does in the CL next season.

Carlo should continue and buying more players. He is doing good with David Luiz, and Ramires. Let him continue buying more talented players.

[Tomo 21,733]

As i said a few weeks ago for those who want Carlo out be very carefull what you wish for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eldo 868]

Haven't a clue, thats the stat I found on wikipedia. But how does anybody expect him to mature if he doesn;t get any game time with the first team?

His body.

[neel 257]

In the beginning of this season the club had the clear message - cut the wage bill, get rid of 30 + expensive players, build your own team fom current senior squad and youth. That was indeed a long term plan. What was ancelotti thinking at that time? Look at liverpool. Don't they play Flanagan and Spearing? Don't they dream for european spot? are they better than our youth?

[Kojo 4,676]

Here we go again...

Lol as soon as i saw this thread been recently posted in, i think next door even heard me say 'for fuck sake'.

[Guest justin_3d]

Well i am done posting here.

Those who want sack Carlo and are giving a new candidate, i hope not to see you again saying sack (new coach) after a few months.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

So why didn't Avram got that? Why didn't Scolari got that? Why didn't Carlo got that?

Sorry, but if these coaches had to tough it up with players some other coach bought, then who ever comes in will have to.

From what i seen, Carlo is doing the right buys, and he should continue buying talented players like Ramires, and David Luiz. Except this time we need a RB, Creative mid, and winger.

And last, you mention Van Gaal??? A guy who won the double, and then got sack in the second season for having a bad season like Carlo???

Sounds kinda awkward to me.

The only coach i see as good are Bielsa and Villa-Boas. But Bielsa is never coming, cause he won't put up with Roman. And Villa-Boas, needs a season or two at Porto. We have to see how he does in the CL next season.

Carlo should continue and buying more players. He is doing good with David Luiz, and Ramires. Let him continue buying more talented players.

So what you are basically saying is that we shouldn't change the manager in the Summer and as a result we shouldn't overhaul the squad because essentially it would be a lame duck manager in charge, what we should do is go into next season with the same squad and the same manager and have another season like this one? So have back to back awful seasons? Im not sure mate but I dont think its a great argument that one.

I agree we need those 3 things but again shouldn;t we let whoever the owner sees as the long term manager of Chelsea be the one who has a say in who those 3 players are?

Judging by this season he could have all the talented players he wants and he still wont achieve very much.

[neel 257]

Well i am done posting here.

Those who want sack Carlo and are giving a new candidate, i hope not to see you again saying sack (new coach) after a few months.

No he will stay or should stay because there is no other alternative. Personally I don't want back Mou and it is too early for Villa Boas. So I just want to gove a benefit of doubt to Carlo.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

In the beginning of this season the club had the clear message - cut the wage bill, get rid of 30 + expensive players, build your own team fom current senior squad and youth. That was indeed a long term plan. What was ancelotti thinking at that time? Look at liverpool. Don't they play Flanagan and Spearing? Don't they dream for european spot? are they better than our youth?

Well said. Look at Jay Spearing, look at how well he has done for Liverpool since Dalglish started playing him regularly, he has had fantastic performances against top teams, is anyone going to try and tell me that Jay Spearing is better than Josh McEachran? Not a bloody chance.

[Guest justin_3d]

No he will stay or should stay because there is no other alternative. Personally I don't want back Mou and it is too early for Villa Boas. So I just want to gove a benefit of doubt to Carlo.

That is what i am saying.

I don't want Mourinho back neither. And I assume Roman neither.

The only way forward, is to get someone like Villa-Boas, and i been saying he needs to be tried in the CL next season. We have to see how well he can handle in that competition before getting him.

It is why Carlo should at least see out his contract. And let us buy a RB, Winger, and creative mid.

[The Big Drog 1,110]

Just a quick question, why are people saying they dont want Mourinho back? I really dont understand that one.