Official - Carlo sacked

[Guest Homer2Chelsea]

Carlo has to stay, i'll be angry to see him go. Why? Alex Ferguson once went three years without winning anything, he didn't get sacked. Wenger hasn't won anything in 6 years. And despite us going through a really really bad patch halfway through the season, we are only a couple of points behind 2nd spot, 11 behind 1st with a game in hand. This is second season syndrome for Carlo, and by next season he wil have found out a cure for that. We need some fucking stability, i don't want Roman to appoint his 7th manager in 8 years, that's horrible. New players next season, no doubt a reinvigorated Torres, a hungry sturridge, a determined Ancelotti and Guus as technical director.

[HRiver 1,512]

Getting Jose back is not the answer, So why don't you stop being such a plastic fan for awhile and show some loyality in your club? One season without a trophey? Chelsea really have spoilt us over the years. Its fans like you that piss me off, How about we sack our entire playing staff aswell seeing as they couldn't win one?

You have no right to call me a plastic fan. It's people like you who accuse others of being plastic fans that piss me off, what authority do you have to accuse another fan, just because he thinks that one coach is better than another? It's called an opinion, and it's a forum where people are supposed to express their opinions, not everyone agrees with each other.

How many stupid mistakes did Carlo make anyway? Remove Drogba in first leg against United, not start him in the second. Don't be so tolerant. He was brought to win us the Champions League and we failed to score at the Bridge in the knockout stages with Carlo in charge, the last goal in the Champions League knockout stages at the Bridge still remains Essien's against Barcelona from two years ago. It's not about ending the season without trophies, it's about his tactics and his wrong moves. Blaming only the players is ridiculous. Look at Real Madrid, they failed to get to the Quarter-finals of the Champions League for 7 consecutive years, but in his first season Mourinho ends that negative streak, it's not a coincidence. It's because he is Mourinho, people. Because he is the best coach in the world.

[Madmax 9,219]

The most fickle thread in history has reached 50 pages. Bravo

[Tomo 21,751]

How many stupid mistakes did Carlo make? Remove Drogba in first leg against United, not start him in the second. Don't be so tolerant. He was brought to win us the Champions League and we failed to score at the Bridge in the knockout stages with Carlo in charge, the last goal in the Champions League knockout stages at the Bridge still remains Essien's against Barcelona from two years ago. It's not about ending the season without trophies, it's about his tactics and his wrong moves. Blaming only the players is ridiculous. Look at Real Madrid, they failed to get to the Quarter-finals of the Champions League for 7 consecutive years, but in his first season Mourinho ends that negative streak, it's not a coincidence. It's because he is Mourinho, people. Because he is the best coach in the world.

Sometimes brave decisions come off sometimes they dont, IE Carlo leaving Drogba out in the title deciding game last season at OT, it payed off but no doubt if we lost he would have got pages and pages of abuse.

Our away record in the CL under Jose left a lot to be desired (P16 W5 D4 L7) yet any bad record Carlo seems to have gets highlighted in big fluffy lights.

[Shane 2,275]

How many stupid mistakes did Carlo make? Remove Drogba in first leg against United, not start him in the second. Don't be so tolerant. He was brought to win us the Champions League and we failed to score at the Bridge in the knockout stages with Carlo in charge, the last goal in the Champions League knockout stages at the Bridge still remains Essien's against Barcelona from two years ago. It's not about ending the season without trophies, it's about his tactics and his wrong moves. Blaming only the players is ridiculous. Look at Real Madrid, they failed to get to the Quarter-finals of the Champions League for 7 consecutive years, but in his first season Mourinho ends that negative streak, it's not a coincidence. It's because he is Mourinho, people. Because he is the best coach in the world.

Firstly about the Real Madrid thing, They had hundreds of millions pumped into them to buy new players, and if it wasn't for Higuain missing chance after chance against Lyon last year they would have got threw, That had nothing to do with Mouriho coming in and waving his magic wand across them.

He was brought to win the Champions League? Not just that, But Premierships and FA Cups, and your making things incredibly bad about Carlo when there not, The knockout stages? We had 2 games FFS, One against Inter where we just didn't show up, Second against United where they wanted it far far more than us.

Oh and I forgot people aren't allowed make mistakes and do what they thought was right, I'll try my best next time, Hitler.

[Madmax 9,219]

Isn't it lovely how while saying Carlo's got no balls that people forget him leaving out Drogba for the title decider last year at OT, for the vital Spurs away game at Shite Hart Lane this year (one which we would have won had Drogba not missed that penalty in extra time) and leaving out both Drogba and Torres for what was essentially the 3rd place decider against City a few weeks back? Those are just off the top of my head in terms of big games that have a lot riding on them.

Oh and where has the 'we want 4-4-2' crowd disappeared? First they criticised Carlo for constantly playing 4-3-3 but now that the 4-4-2 has failed, they're all quiet and not speaking a word about it. Fickle fickle fickle.

[HRiver 1,512]

Yeah okay, go on. Accuse Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Florent Maluda, Fernando Torres etc etc, and not the coach. The coach is the head of the team, and if the team fails, it's because his tactics and strategies didn't work. Nobody can guarantee me that we will do better in the next season. With all the negative reputation we received as a club with Torres being a 'flop', Carlo finishing a disappionting season and all that, nobody in the world can convince or guarantee me that we WILL do better in the next season. If you don't want to look back in the history when Mourinho got us to the back to back titles, then why mention Carlo's success which will soon be counted as two seasons ago? We need a winning manager.

[Madmax 9,219]

Oh no ... it's not the player's fault if they can't make a 10 yard pass, or score into an open net, or keep an eye on the player they're marking while defending a freekick. It's the manager's fault.

[Shane 2,275]

Yeah okay, go on. Accuse Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Florent Maluda, Fernando Torres etc etc, and not the coach. The coach is the head of the team, and if the team fails, it's because his tactics and strategies didn't work. Nobody can guarantee me that we will do better in the next season. With all the negative reputation we received as a club with Torres being a 'flop', Carlo finishing a disappionting season and all that, nobody in the world can convince or guarantee me that we WILL do better in the next season. If you don't want to look back in the history when Mourinho got us to the back to back titles, then why mention Carlo's success which will soon be counted as two seasons ago? We need a winning manager.

At the end of the day, Its the players that go onto the field, Not Ancelloti, If the players defend poorly in a situation (ALL of United's 3 goals in the CL tie) that cannot be classed as Ancelloti's fault. If a £50m striker is bought and doesn't perform, that cannot be classed as Ancelloti's fault.

Nobody can guarantee anything in Football, thats the beauty of it, Thats why we love it.

Mind the Carlo bashers weren't around when we beat United 2-1.

[HRiver 1,512]

Oh no ... it's not the player's fault if they can't make a 10 yard pass, or score into an open net, or keep an eye on the player they're marking while defending a freekick. It's the manager's fault.

It clearly is. Why play the player if he is in bad form and if he is not playing well? The coach decides who plays and who doesn't.

[Tomo 21,751]

, nobody in the world can convince or guarantee me that we WILL do better in the next season.

Nor can we guarentee we will do as bad or worse or rule the world if Jose or Guus return.

[Madmax 9,219]

Yeah okay, go on. Accuse Frank Lampard, Michael Essien, Florent Maluda, Fernando Torres etc etc, and not the coach. The coach is the head of the team, and if the team fails, it's because his tactics and strategies didn't work. Nobody can guarantee me that we will do better in the next season. With all the negative reputation we received as a club with Torres being a 'flop', Carlo finishing a disappionting season and all that, nobody in the world can convince or guarantee me that we WILL do better in the next season. If you don't want to look back in the history when Mourinho got us to the back to back titles, then why mention Carlo's success which will soon be counted as two seasons ago? We need a winning manager.

Mourinho won the treble last year ... he's a 'winning manager' in your words, and yet what exactly are Madrid, the biggest, most famous club in the world, going to win this season?

[HRiver 1,512]

At the end of the day, Its the players that go onto the field, Not Ancelloti, If the players defend poorly in a situation (ALL of United's 3 goals in the CL tie) that cannot be classed as Ancelloti's fault. If a £50m striker is bought and doesn't perform, that cannot be classed as Ancelloti's fault.

Nobody can guarantee anything in Football, thats the beauty of it, Thats why we love it.

Mind the Carlo bashers weren't around when we beat United 2-1.

I'm not a Carlo hater. I actually quite like the man, I liked him even from his Milan days as Milan were my favourite team in Italy, and I've been supporting him throughout the whole season. But I'm just expressing my honest opinion on how I think that the club could improve for the next season, that's all.

[Madmax 9,219]

It clearly is. Why play the player if he is in bad form and if he is not playing well? The coach decides who plays and who doesn't.

You're telling me it's the manager's fault if a player can't make a 10 yard pass? An international captain like Essien or Lampard fails to make a simple sideways pass, and it's Carlo's fault? Fuck me. I give up.

[HRiver 1,512]

You're telling me it's the manager's fault if a player can't make a 10 yard pass? An international captain like Essien or Lampard fails to make a simple sideways pass, and it's Carlo's fault? Fuck me. I give up.

It obviously is. Show them the bench and see how they perform in their next game. Or simply tell them not to make 10 yard passes if you see that it's not working, or if you notice that your game is rather predictable. Change the way of playing, put another player on instead of Essien or Lampard, tell them to change the game, give more boost to the attack, look for the striker, motivate them, tell them not to lose posession in midfield, there are MANY things a coach can do to improve his team, he is there for a reason. We were promised that we would see something special on Tuesday against Man United, and what did we see? Nothing apart from showing more will to win the game, which we should have shown in the first leg in the first place, and the removal of Torres for Drogba. Our game was boring and predictable, just like during the whole season.

[HRiver 1,512]

Mourinho won the treble last year ... he's a 'winning manager' in your words, and yet what exactly are Madrid, the biggest, most famous club in the world, going to win this season?

The Champions League.

[bababoom 4,478]

I would rather keep Carlo because right now if we sack him now no ones really available. Also people seem to forget that he won us the double last year. Dont get me wrong i would love to have Jose back but lets face it he is probably going to be the next man u or man city manager, i honestly hope not...

[Madmax 9,219]

It obviously is. Show them the bench and see how they perform in their next game. Or don't make 10 yard passes if you see that it's not working, or if you notice that your game is rather predictable. Change the way of playing, put another player on instead of Essien or Lampard, tell them to change the game, give more boost to the attack, look for the striker, motivate them, tell them not to lose posession in midfield, there are MANY things a coach can do to improve his team, he is there for a reason. We were promised that we would see something special on Tuesday against Man United, and what did we see? Nothing apart from showing more will to win the game, which we should have shown in the first leg in the first place, and the removal of Torres for Drogba. Our game was boring and predictable, just like during the whole season.

See that's what the problem is - you just can't see the player's fault no matter how poorly they play. Granted Carlo makes some mistakes, but you conveniently lay the blame entirely upon the manager, because it's easier to find one scapegoat and sack one person than sack eleven.

The Champions League.

lol okay, whatever you say

Like I said, I give up. There's only so much I can try to make someone see sense. Peace out.

[bababoom 4,478]

I know this is about Ancelotti but what do you guys think about this - http://www.thesun.co...n-Utd-boss.html

[Tomo 21,751]

I know this is about Ancelotti but what do you guys think about this - http://www.thesun.co...n-Utd-boss.html

Take it with a pinch of salt, apparently he preffered Liverpool to us and will be back at Chelsea one day, we will see.