Some need to read this

[Styles 9,790]

When I decided to join this forum, it was to share my opinions with other Chelsea's fans around the world. I started to support this club since 2004. Maybe im "less fan" than those who used to go to Stamford Bridge since their childhood, but i did learned to love this club.

But Im not here to read people telling me how im supposed to support Chelsea, or that I should support another club unless I start to say that I want Carlo to stay here forever. When Chelsea plays, i want Carlo to do a great job and Kalou to score 5 goals. But my opinion is that Kalou is garbage, and that Carlo is not what Chelsea needs. I also thinks that Carvalho is better than Terry, that we should have sold Drogba after last season because he is 32 years old, that Joe Cole is an avarage player, that Malouda is not as good as he believes. But I also thinks that Lampard is better than Gerrard, Essien is the better defensive midfilder in the world, Cech is the best gk, Ashley the best lb, Makelelé is the best that ive ever seen in his position, Gudjonsen was underrated...I support Chelsea and these are my thoughts.

If i say that we dont have a chance against Barcelona, it doesnt mean i will not support Chelsea. It means that i think we will not win. I dont have to think that we will win to be a supporter.

And for some english guys: Yeah, you have to accept that Chelsea is now a global brand and will share your support with idiots around the world.

Btw, its getting really difficult to people to accept different opinions nowadays...strange days. At least I realized that some people around the world are even more rude and stupid than the worst kind of guys we find in South America. But I wont stop supporting Chelsea because of you. I can tell you that i have more passion to this club than some guys that barely knows about the game but thinks that screaming Chelsea, chelsea, chelsea when Kalou and Mikel are fucking with the game is what the world support means.

Farewell

Henrique don't go. You are entitled to your opinion just like anybody else. And I actually enjoy reading comments for our fans across the world, I have enough local opinions to last me a lifetime! Come back bro.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

When I decided to join this forum, it was to share my opinions with other Chelsea's fans around the world. I started to support this club since 2004. Maybe im "less fan" than those who used to go to Stamford Bridge since their childhood, but i did learned to love this club.

But Im not here to read people telling me how im supposed to support Chelsea, or that I should support another club unless I start to say that I want Carlo to stay here forever. When Chelsea plays, i want Carlo to do a great job and Kalou to score 5 goals. But my opinion is that Kalou is garbage, and that Carlo is not what Chelsea needs. I also thinks that Carvalho is better than Terry, that we should have sold Drogba after last season because he is 32 years old, that Joe Cole is an avarage player, that Malouda is not as good as he believes. But I also thinks that Lampard is better than Gerrard, Essien is the better defensive midfilder in the world, Cech is the best gk, Ashley the best lb, Makelelé is the best that ive ever seen in his position, Gudjonsen was underrated...I support Chelsea and these are my thoughts.

If i say that we dont have a chance against Barcelona, it doesnt mean i will not support Chelsea. It means that i think we will not win. I dont have to think that we will win to be a supporter.

And for some english guys: Yeah, you have to accept that Chelsea is now a global brand and will share your support with idiots around the world.

Btw, its getting really difficult to people to accept different opinions nowadays...strange days. At least I realized that some people around the world are even more rude and stupid than the worst kind of guys we find in South America. But I wont stop supporting Chelsea because of you. I can tell you that i have more passion to this club than some guys that barely knows about the game but thinks that screaming Chelsea, chelsea, chelsea when Kalou and Mikel are fucking with the game is what the world support means.

Farewell

Bye Bye

[Madmax 9,219]

I don't want us to send out a message on this forum that we are not allowed to criticize our club. I've seen members on this who are not fans of players like Kalou and Benayoun and how do we react? We often show them ugly feelings to make our points we don't agree and they are wrong! That's not the way this forum should work. All member's opinions and point of views should be read and then debated in a respectful manner. Driving members out of this forum is out of order in my opinion.

Who's driving him out? Nobody's even named him, and as the poster of the original link, let me tell you I didn't start this thread with him or anybody else in particular in mind. Something obviously touched a raw nerve with him somewhere and he's decided to leave. The irony is a lot of people are saying "Oh you have a right to have your opinion" which he obviously has . Nobody is saying "Hey you - don't have an opinion." But then so do I and if I feel someone's being overtly negative for no apparent reason, I can point that out, just like some people criticise me and others when we're defending Carlo or the players.

Obviously playing the victim generates sympathy and gets people on your side.

[Styles 9,790]

Who's driving him out? Nobody's even named him, and as the poster of the original link, let me tell you I didn't start this thread with him or anybody else in particular in mind. Something obviously touched a raw nerve with him somewhere and he's decided to leave. The irony is a lot of people are saying "Oh you have a right to have your opinion" which he obviously has . Nobody is saying "Hey you - don't have an opinion." But then so do I and if I feel someone's being overtly negative for no apparent reason, I can point that out, just like some people criticise me and others when we're defending Carlo or the players.

Obviously playing the victim generates sympathy and gets people on your side.

But this is a forum and not everybody shares the sames views. It would be pretty rubbish if we did. Complaining about people having an alternative view is just silly and it certainly doesn't make anyone less of a fan if they don't like a certain player or coach.

Henrique doesn't like Ancelotti...so what? There are many like me who think he's a decent enough coach but far from the best.

[Madmax 9,219]

But this is a forum and not everybody shares the sames views. It would be pretty rubbish if we did. Complaining about people having an alternative view is just silly and it certainly doesn't make anyone less of a fan if they don't like a certain player or coach.

Henrique doesn't like Ancelotti...so what? There are many like me who think he's a decent enough coach but far from the best.

Sigh. I'm tired of repeating myself. At no point did I say Henrique or anybody else should have the same views as me.

Person 1 : Carlo is what we need, he should be given more time, get behind him and the team, don't be so negative.

Perosn 2 : Carlo sucks, should go.

Person 1 : That's not on, you should be more positive.

If you call that 'silly', well I don't know what to say.

[Styles 9,790]

Sigh. I'm tired of repeating myself. At no point did I say Henrique or anybody else should have the same views as me.

Person 1 : Carlo is what we need, he should be given more time, get behind him and the team, don't be so negative.

Perosn 2 : Carlo sucks, should go.

Person 1 : That's not on, you should be more positive.

If you call that 'silly', well I don't know what to say.

But you didn't say it like that, you created a seperate thread and told anybody that holds a different view...

If you still don't get it, fark off.

That was completely uncalled for. If you have a different opionion 'fark off' eh? What a great forum this is.

[Madmax 9,219]

But you didn't say it like that, you created a seperate thread and told anybody that holds a different view...

That was completely uncalled for. If you have a different opionion 'fark off' eh? What a great forum this is.

I'm supposed to PM everyone individually?

Funny you choose to highlight the 'fark off'. It gives a totally different shade when taken in isolation from the rest of the sentence. The original sentence was 'If you still don't get it, fark off' which indicates that 'If you still don't understand, fuck off, I don't know what to say to convince you otherwise'. Don't be selective while quoting things. He's called me an idiot directly in a reply without provocation, I haven't even named him or anybody in particular here. You didn't complain about that, did you? Or were you waiting for me to say ''Oh I am a helpless victim, I'm going away.''

[Styles 9,790]

I'm supposed to PM everyone individually?

Funny you choose to highlight the 'fark off'. It gives a totally different shade when taken in isolation from the rest of the sentence. The original sentence was 'If you still don't get it, fark off' which indicates that 'If you still don't understand, fuck off, I don't know what to say to convince you otherwise'. Don't be selective while quoting things. He's called me an idiot directly in a reply without provocation, I haven't even named him or anybody in particular here. You didn't complain about that, did you? Or were you waiting for me to say ''Oh I am a helpless victim, I'm going away.''

Live and let live. If people want to criticise certain players or actions then let them.

[Madmax 9,219]

Live and let live. If people want to criticise certain players or actions then let them.

Exactly. So it's okay for you to criticise players or actions, but it's not okay for me to criticise you for doing that. My opinion matters less than yours. Boo hoo. I'm off.

[Styles 9,790]

Exactly. So it's okay for you to criticise players or actions, but it's not okay for me to criticise you for doing that. My opinion matters less than yours. Boo hoo. I'm off.

No have disagreements with them and try to have a civilized debate. Don't make a seperate thread telling people to 'fark off'.

And don't go, we need the forum police to keep us in check.

[Madmax 9,219]

No have disagreements with them and try to have a civilized debate. Don't make a seperate thread telling people to 'fark off'.

And don't go, we need the forum police to keep us in check.

Umm you didn't read the earlier post. Or you chose to ignore it. Or you like repeating yourself.

Thanks, I'll stay back just for you

[Styles 9,790]

Umm you didn't read the earlier post. Or you chose to ignore it. Or you like repeating yourself.

Thanks, I'll stay back just for you

[Madmax 9,219]

[crazy1 24]

watever is said by carefree is very true.......................bcas der r some fans who moan after every point dropped..........we all know tht it is impossible to win each and every game n in premiership it is way more difficult.........CHELSEA n CAREFREE rocks....................

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Who's driving him out? Nobody's even named him, and as the poster of the original link, let me tell you I didn't start this thread with him or anybody else in particular in mind. Something obviously touched a raw nerve with him somewhere and he's decided to leave. The irony is a lot of people are saying "Oh you have a right to have your opinion" which he obviously has . Nobody is saying "Hey you - don't have an opinion." But then so do I and if I feel someone's being overtly negative for no apparent reason, I can point that out, just like some people criticise me and others when we're defending Carlo or the players.

Obviously playing the victim generates sympathy and gets people on your side.

I didn't name him specifically nor did I say he was targeted, I've used him just for example purposes. But some of the comments that get aimed at him, FOR EXAMPLE, are just filled with hate. He's being driven out of the forum because when he says anything remotely negative about the players or staff he's called an "idiot" or "not a real fan" (I was guilty of that once, but I apologized almost straight away as it was said in anger).

The fact is. Whenever someone on this forum criticises a player or management they're almost instantly gunned down. When Styles, for another EXAMPLE, was saying he didn't think Kakuta was good enough, he was public enemy #1!

I'm not point my finger at you Max, saying you're guilty of it. I'm saying the forum as a whole has this whole "Chelsea have the best management and players in the world. Anyone who says otherwise are idiotic" vibe to it.