Some need to read this

[Madmax 9,219]

I didn't name him specifically nor did I say he was targeted, I've used him just for example purposes. But some of the comments that get aimed at him, FOR EXAMPLE, are just filled with hate. He's being driven out of the forum because when he says anything remotely negative about the players or staff he's called an "idiot" or "not a real fan" (I was guilty of that once, but I apologized almost straight away as it was said in anger).

The fact is. Whenever someone on this forum criticises a player or management they're almost instantly gunned down. When Styles, for another EXAMPLE, was saying he didn't think Kakuta was good enough, he was public enemy #1!

I'm not point my finger at you Max, saying you're guilty of it. I'm saying the forum as a whole has this whole "Chelsea have the best management and players in the world. Anyone who says otherwise are idiotic" vibe to it.

Thanks mate, I was under the impression you were blaming me.

You're very regular here and you would have read my posts in which I've criticised Carlo, Roman, the management, Kalou, Mikel, etc. Not for one moment do I believe that we're perfect and never have I called anyone on here an idiot unless having being called something first. I've had debates with you, Styles, Henrique, Badboy, you name it.

The forum has about 50 regular contributors but a lot of people who aren't members come and read the stuff here daily. The article was meant for them as much as it was for people on the forum.

Once again, I have never stopped, nor will stop anybody from saying anything they want. But I will stand up for any of our players or the manager when I feel they're being unfairly criticised. Considering that's my opinion, and my opinion is as equally important as any other user's , I have a right to.

In the words of Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

[LDN Blue 7,903]

In the words of Voltaire, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

And that's a good message to always carry. Now hopefully Henrique isn't convinced the whole forum hates him and will come back eventually

[eldo 868]

I didn't name him specifically nor did I say he was targeted, I've used him just for example purposes. But some of the comments that get aimed at him, FOR EXAMPLE, are just filled with hate. He's being driven out of the forum because when he says anything remotely negative about the players or staff he's called an "idiot" or "not a real fan" (I was guilty of that once, but I apologized almost straight away as it was said in anger).

The fact is. Whenever someone on this forum criticises a player or management they're almost instantly gunned down. When Styles, for another EXAMPLE, was saying he didn't think Kakuta was good enough, he was public enemy #1!

I'm not point my finger at you Max, saying you're guilty of it. I'm saying the forum as a whole has this whole "Chelsea have the best management and players in the world. Anyone who says otherwise are idiotic" vibe to it.

And did Styles explain why he thinks Kakuta is not good enough? Or he just said that and claimed it as general truth?

Couple of members here think that only their opinions are correct or whatever they write is fact, and also how they have more knowledge then other members. Communication is a two-way thing!

[Laylabelle 9,534]

Pretty good article really

What pisses me off,not so much here but real life sorta..is fickle fickle fans one minute its 'Carlo's amazing we need him to stay..' then a bad run and its 'get him out!!!' God knows where Man U be if they'd done that with Fergie and all.

Just cause we're champions and have the players we have doesnt mean we'll win every single game.Like someone said they need to as well.They may not be fighting for the title but they will be fighting for the highest place possible.

Win some loose some.I was kinda 'ahhh we're shit at the mo we cant win etc'.My mum kinda in a 'This is how it used to be!' mood.

[zolayes 14,489]

And did Styles explain why he thinks Kakuta is not good enough? Or he just said that and claimed it as general truth?

Couple of members here think that only their opinions are correct or whatever they write is fact, and also how they have more knowledge then other members. Communication is a two-way thing!

it does happen that some rubbish players without giving reasons and if you disagree with their opinions then you havent even half a brain

[Henrique 9,133]

Thanks that some guys understand me...im not alone.

I came from another football culture. In Brazil we dont used to go to stadiuns when the club is playing awful or is in the mid table. When we lost a match is normal to ask for the coaches' head and say that half of the team is garbage. We boo our players that are playing really bad. When the match is hard, we cant even speak a sound. If a choach or a player won everything this year but in next do a poor job, so bye bye.

One thing that I apreciate in England is that even one the club is losing 4-0, the crowd is still singning. The stadium is full of people even if the team wont get even a Europa League place. In brazil some people say that its because in england the support really love the club, some say that its because in england some people go to football matches in the same way they go to theater: they just go, and see what happens.

What is the right way to support ? I dont know, I believe there is no right way.

But what happens in this forum is same in Brazil. I support here Palmeiras. Used to be a great great club back in 90s. In last 10 years it was even relegated, and won just 1 regional trophy. But I do love that club. In hard times there is always some guys that complain about the players, the coach, the board, and some that says that who complain should find another team to support, and that are idiots and not real supporters.

I said that I was going to leave because Im now in last year of University, doing my final project and preparing for master degree next year. Its not good to get stressed in this stage, but seems that there are some good guys around. =p

[zolayes 14,489]

people who only support their team when they win trophies are known as "glory hunters" here ,,they are widely despised,, true fans are considered as those who support their team thro thick and thin ,,,At chelsea the good times have been mainly in the last 10 years .. previously it was a roller

coaster ride of emotions.

[Madmax 9,219]

Ah what would Henrique do without 'the good guys' lmao

[zolayes 14,489]

Ah what would Henrique do without 'the good guys' lmao

I guess you and I must be two of the bad guys

[Madmax 9,219]

I guess you and I must be two of the bad guys

End of the world innit?

But good luck with your university work, Henrique.

[Henrique 9,133]

Yeah, you two are the bad guys. I will call my friend Terminator.

Glory hunter...lol, it makes me laugh. lol. What a funny expression. So now Chelsea has a owner, a coach, players, and now even supporters that are glory hunters...sad world. lol.

http://www.manutdtalk.com/forums/football-banter/9562-chelsea-fans-glory-hunters.html

[Madmax 9,219]

Umm ok, 'LOL'. Go do your homework now

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Yeah, you two are the bad guys. I will call my friend Terminator.

Glory hunter...lol, it makes me laugh. lol. What a funny expression. So now Chelsea has a owner, a coach, players, and now even supporters that are glory hunters...sad world. lol.

http://www.manutdtal...ry-hunters.html

Quite ironic a Man Utd fan is complaining about glory hunters at another club. 90% of Manchester United fans can't name more than 11 players. They support the brand not the club, we have that problem, Arsenal, Liverpool, Real Madrid, Barcelona. All footballing giants have their share. It makes it kind of hard to differentiate the difference to be honest. I say I'm not a glory hunter, because I supported this club before Abramovich came with his millions and stood by them.

There are some fans who came to the club after Abramovich and I don't resent them. Because most of those fans grew to love the club, they watch every game, they don't turn away in defeat etc.

[Henrique 9,133]

Umm ok, 'LOL'. Go do your homework now

Ok sir, I will. And you dream about me in Mumbai.

[Madmax 9,219]

Not fond of nightmares tbh