Josh McEachran

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I have been an advocate of him since his youth team days but let's face it he's his own biggest obstacle and largely responsible for the stagnation because of his lazy lackadastical attitude that he exhibits on the pitch and lack of hunger and desire in his game. I have seen him too many times just stand around, completely uninterested in the game and just happy to let games pass him by, that's a terrible attitude to have and reflects lack of ambition and desire to grow and develop.

For balance, It wasn't all his fault though and our board as to share some of the blame

The sacking of Ancelotti: Under the Italian, he showed huge promise, desire and hunger and looked destined for greatness, i still remember his league cup debute against Newcastle and his MOTM performace in the UCL against Marseille very fondly. He was progressing and flourishing under a manager that trusted and believed in him. It's no surprise that his decline coincided with the sacking of Ancelotti and it's been downward from there.

Then the hiring of AVB who was absolutely terrible with the youth. He showed absolutely no desire in any of our youth or integrating them into the first team. that became apparent when he secluded them from training with and using the first team training facilities. With Josh stagnating on the bench and not getting any minutes on the pitch he then decided to loan him out to a team that already had the position that he plays in covered with Leon Britton and Joe Allen.

What followed that loan spell is all down to him however as lack of stagnation can be blamed on someone else but a lack of desire and hunger on the other hand is a character defect.

All in all the lesson here is the youth need stability but also the right attitude in order to fulfill their potential. It also helps if the manager is one that shares a passion and philosophy for developing young talents.

It's always been a highlight to me that every manager that we've had have picked out their 'favourites' in the youth team. Ancelotti chose Borini/McEachran, Benitez chose Ake etc.

So with that said, our revolving door policy has allowed so many of these players to leave outright when they could've had the opportunity to make it. It makes me think that if we had Shaw in our academy he would've never made it to the level he's at now.

Mourinho has seemed to earmark Kalas for now, even in spite of his loan, so perhaps there's an opportunity for him. Hopefully after yesterday he'll also taking a liking for Bamford too.

As for Josh, this loan to Spain just seems as pointless as all the others. In 2.5 years this will be his 5th loan or something, none of which have done anything for him. He needs a permanent move away I think, to a club with lower expectations and with a manager who truly has time and patience to nurture talent.

[Liquidator 5,176]

Looks as if it will be another loan. Unless we can loan him with the option to buy at the end of the season it will be pointless. Hopefully given his physique and technical ability he will do better over in Spain which would increase his value.

It's sad really because he did look the real deal in 2010/11. Maybe it just wasn't meant to be but in a lot of his loan stints he never seemed like he wanted it enough. He never wanted to push himself out of his comfort zone and reach the next level

[Joker10 946]

He needs to stay healthy, he seem to be picking up injuries left and right.

He could do a Sahin, broke into Dortmund squad at a early age, youngest player to play in Bundesliga then his career pretty much stagnated then overcame his early struggle and became pivotal in Dortmund rise as champion of Bundesliga.

So it is not unheard of for a player to face career stagnation and able to overcome it down the line.

[Blue Gino 377]

He needs to come to the same realization Van Aanholt did and say "I'm done."

[5354 204]

Is he staying to fit into the HG quota?

[Jase 43,479]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2719792/Chelsea-s-Josh-McEachran-talks-Vitesse-Arnhem-possible-loan-move.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

In talks with Vitesse to join them on loan..

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2719792/Chelsea-s-Josh-McEachran-talks-Vitesse-Arnhem-possible-loan-move.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

In talks with Vitesse to join them on loan..

Vitesse?! Oh Really?!

[King11Didier 916]

What a surprising move! Probably his last season as Chelsea player.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

I actually think it would be a good move for him. I remember calling for this loan last season to replace MVG. We can loan him to the Championship for 10 more seasons and he won't evolve. That's just not his style of play.

[5354 204]

Like I say, it is tough to judge a midfielder (deep-lying) on how successful he is.

Sending him to Championship clubs is really a wrong strategy since majority of them are either struggling in the league or attempting to win promotion to a league. A mid-table kind of club suits Josh more.

The loan to Vitese honestly does not sound good to me at all. A slower pace league will suit him well...

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Like I say, it is tough to judge a midfielder (deep-lying) on how successful he is.

Sending him to Championship clubs is really a wrong strategy since majority of them are either struggling in the league or attempting to win promotion to a league. A mid-table kind of club suits Josh more.

The loan to Vitese honestly does not sound good to me at all. A slower pace league will suit him well...

Thing is, he probably wouldn't get playing time in a mid table club in the premier league. Hell, wasn't that the case at Swansea with him?

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Thing is, he probably wouldn't get playing time in a mid table club in the premier league. Hell, wasn't that the case at Swansea with him?

Swansea never needed him, their midfield was set with Ledley, Allen and whoever else made up that trio. That's what was frustrating about that loan, everyone knew it as well, there was no chance he would break into that squad. Unless someone was injured.

He needs to go to a team that has a need for him. Not as injury cover, as real vacancy so to speak.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Who really cares anymore

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

Swansea never needed him, their midfield was set with Ledley, Allen and whoever else made up that trio. That's what was frustrating about that loan, everyone knew it as well, there was no chance he would break into that squad. Unless someone was injured.

He needs to go to a team that has a need for him. Not as injury cover, as real vacancy so to speak.

They were too good for him to be honest, and so would any other side be in the middle of the table in this league. At best I see him being a rotation choice on a bottom table side. No shame in that.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

They were too good for him to be honest, and so would any other side be in the middle of the table in this league. At best I see him being a rotation choice on a bottom table side. No shame in that.

None at all. It's the exposure he needs.