🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 Josh McEachran

[zolayes 14,489]

Despite that zola, I do worry about Josh though. What if we've ruined him?

if he is the player we want him to be he will come back stronger after a setback

[capriccioso 2,545]

Young players these days are too fragile. Bring back the days of youth getting used to being rubbish for several years without shattering their confidence.

[5354 204]

Does he has the FA Cup and CL medal?

[zolayes 14,489]

Does he has the FA Cup and CL medal?

of course not

[5354 204]

Hmm

I thought Josh played in some of the FA cup or CL matches?

[Jase 43,479]

Hmm

I thought Josh played in some of the FA cup or CL matches?

Erm, nope. AVB hardly even played the youngsters during his time here apart from the Carling Cup.

[Leif 6,006]

I understand this will leave some people angry, confused and bum-hurt, but hear me out for a moment.

Do any of you just hail McEachran as one of our best ever academy products... just because other people say that?

It feels as if people are calling him 'great' just because others do.

There's a REASON why he doesn't get playing time, even at Swansea.

Allow me to explain.

He's shown potential, but just because he shone at youth level and is English, everything was blown out of proportion. That's just how England works.

Overrated and overpriced players is the norm for us.

When you REALLY study Josh, the way he thinks, moves, plays, etc. you can see a player who is composed... but completely out of it.

He plays as if he's high all the time. Watch ANY clips from the time he got to play for Swansea - He didn't run once. He just jogs around the field, looking into the sun, staring at the birds flying over the stadium.

He doesn't have the attitude or mentality of a WINNER from what I can see, because fans just give him a free pass and say "He's young, give him time. He's the next Xavi."

If you really know our players inside and out, including the academy, you'd see we have far better players among our ranks. Lewis Baker, Loftus-Cheek and Swift are all miles ahead with their talents. They're all already outstanding players.

A similar thing goes for Piazon.

Yes, he has potential, but just because he's Brazilian doesn't make him the "Next Kaka". They play nothing alike.

Kaka is an advanced playmaker, where-as Piazon is an inside support striker.

He's also nowhere NEAR ready for the first team. He's far too indecisive on the ball, and his dwelling makes him often lose the ball.

So in summary - Stop overrating our younger players. You will be let down, unfortunately.

[zolayes 14,489]

RELAX and enjoy the moment

[skeeo 37]

Exactly. Chillax. EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS!!!

[petr.breu 1,618]

[Stats 7,142]

I understand this will leave some people angry, confused and bum-hurt, but hear me out for a moment.

Do any of you just hail McEachran as one of our best ever academy products... just because other people say that?

It feels as if people are calling him 'great' just because others do.

There's a REASON why he doesn't get playing time, even at Swansea.

Allow me to explain.

He's shown potential, but just because he shone at youth level and is English, everything was blown out of proportion. That's just how England works.

Overrated and overpriced players is the norm for us.

When you REALLY study Josh, the way he thinks, moves, plays, etc. you can see a player who is composed... but completely out of it.

He plays as if he's high all the time. Watch ANY clips from the time he got to play for Swansea - He didn't run once. He just jogs around the field, looking into the sun, staring at the birds flying over the stadium.

He doesn't have the attitude or mentality of a WINNER from what I can see, because fans just give him a free pass and say "He's young, give him time. He's the next Xavi."

If you really know our players inside and out, including the academy, you'd see we have far better players among our ranks. Lewis Baker, Loftus-Cheek and Swift are all miles ahead with their talents. They're all already outstanding players.

A similar thing goes for Piazon.

Yes, he has potential, but just because he's Brazilian doesn't make him the "Next Kaka". They play nothing alike.

Kaka is an advanced playmaker, where-as Piazon is an inside support striker.

He's also nowhere NEAR ready for the first team. He's far too indecisive on the ball, and his dwelling makes him often lose the ball.

So in summary - Stop overrating our younger players. You will be let down, unfortunately.

Afraid to say, but I can only agree with you. He didnt get that much starts down there but I wasn't impressed with McEachran down at Swansea when he played. He is getting to an age where he needs first team football and unfortunately for him, I can;='t see it being at Chelsea, especially with the statements we are making in signings. Hope we get Dembele btw at some point, fantastic player. I agree about Piazon, he has looked very good in matches sometimes but nowhere near the first team however in the reserves and U18 he has been the best player, but few years he will be even better and should be ready for the first team. Seen Lewis Baker a few times, but seems no different to Josh IMO, nothing brilliant but John Swift looks very promising when I have seen him play, almost like a Ramires type player. Chalobah looks the best coming from the U18. Maybe it is best for Piazon to go out on loan

Tough when you are a youngster at a club like Chelsea but there is always hoope, Bertrand is showing that and there are decent ones coming through as we have already mentioned. However with Josh he will be 20 next year and not sure if the manager thinks he will be good enough and may have to move on to pastures new

[Kojo 4,676]

I understand this will leave some people angry, confused and bum-hurt, but hear me out for a moment.

Do any of you just hail McEachran as one of our best ever academy products... just because other people say that?

It feels as if people are calling him 'great' just because others do.

There's a REASON why he doesn't get playing time, even at Swansea.

Allow me to explain.

He's shown potential, but just because he shone at youth level and is English, everything was blown out of proportion. That's just how England works.

Overrated and overpriced players is the norm for us.

When you REALLY study Josh, the way he thinks, moves, plays, etc. you can see a player who is composed... but completely out of it.

He plays as if he's high all the time. Watch ANY clips from the time he got to play for Swansea - He didn't run once. He just jogs around the field, looking into the sun, staring at the birds flying over the stadium.

He doesn't have the attitude or mentality of a WINNER from what I can see, because fans just give him a free pass and say "He's young, give him time. He's the next Xavi."

If you really know our players inside and out, including the academy, you'd see we have far better players among our ranks. Lewis Baker, Loftus-Cheek and Swift are all miles ahead with their talents. They're all already outstanding players.

A similar thing goes for Piazon.

Yes, he has potential, but just because he's Brazilian doesn't make him the "Next Kaka". They play nothing alike.

Kaka is an advanced playmaker, where-as Piazon is an inside support striker.

He's also nowhere NEAR ready for the first team. He's far too indecisive on the ball, and his dwelling makes him often lose the ball.

So in summary - Stop overrating our younger players. You will be let down, unfortunately.

Not at all, McEachran didn't play for Swansea because he wasn't physicall, i suggest you watch more games and look at other fans opinions, i was even on the Swansea forum afterwards to discuss with them about him, they said he was great but lost them the game because he kept getting pushed off the ball.

[Stats 7,142]

He could brush up on his physical side however he had more chances of playing for Chelsea last season than the upcoming one. Going to be tremendously hard for him. Will have to see who is appoitned and what plans they have for him. I am thinking a loan to Villa wouldnt be bad but I don't want the same situation as Swansea again

[FormerRussianSpy 163]

http://twitter.com/#.../mceachranstats

Anybody seen this page? It doesn't really have a definite source to verify the stats this guy posts, but they do sound impressive.

Example: "Josh McEachran at Swansea (pass accuracy) Own half: 98% - Attacking half: 93% and in the final third: 91% accuracy"

[Leif 6,006]

Why do people always want McEachran loaned to a Premier League club?

A Premier League manager has nothing to judge McEachran on other than what he does in training.

It would be far too much of a risk to play him.

We need to send him out to the Championship.

We did that with Bertrand, and look at him now - starting a Champions League final - and helping his team win it.

We're pushing far too fast with Josh.

[Joker10 946]

Josh is ready for the PL and he will prove that, he would have played if we didn't stall and sent him on loan earlier. Rodgers took him, not as a necessity because he already signed Gylfi.

Hope to see RDM be more decisive then AVB, hope he has a clear plan for McEachran. If he is going to use him like Bertrand that would be preferred, if not hope he send him on loan early like sometime between now and before August.

Swansea is still a very good option under Laudrup, he will keep Swansea style and formations which is preferred for Josh. They will be looking for a midfielder with Gylfi most likely signing with Liverpool.

Laudrup was my favorite player growing up, and one of the best midfielder of all time. Hope he does well with Swansea. It would be ideal for Josh to be managed by him.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Why do people always want McEachran loaned to a Premier League club?

A Premier League manager has nothing to judge McEachran on other than what he does in training.

It would be far too much of a risk to play him.

We need to send him out to the Championship.

We did that with Bertrand, and look at him now - starting a Champions League final - and helping his team win it.

We're pushing far too fast with Josh.

Easy to say that in hindsight, whereas the reality is we all thought Josh was the next big thing. He may still prove to be a great player, but I am beginning to think more and more that it will not be at this club.

[bababoom 4,478]

What if we send him on loan again and it doesn't work out? another loan?

If it was up to me, i will give him a try next season.

Two years ago he played a couple of matches in the CL and a few PL matches, the idea was to ease him in last year but AVB didn't play him and we sent him on loan... now this year people want him on loan again?

I honestly don't think our board wanted him to go on loan, he's not like Betrand, Josh is/was our biggest prospect for years and the fact that he played in the CL when he was 18 proves that.

[Superblue 6,372]

Why do people always want McEachran loaned to a Premier League club?

A Premier League manager has nothing to judge McEachran on other than what he does in training.

It would be far too much of a risk to play him.

We need to send him out to the Championship.

We did that with Bertrand, and look at him now - starting a Champions League final - and helping his team win it.

We're pushing far too fast with Josh.

What if we send him on loan again and it doesn't work out? another loan?

If it was up to me, i will give him a try next season.

Two years ago he played a couple of matches in the CL and a few PL matches, the idea was to ease him in last year but AVB didn't play him and we sent him on loan... now this year people want him on loan again?

I honestly don't think our board wanted him to go on loan, he's not like Betrand, Josh is/was our biggest prospect for years and the fact that he played in the CL when he was 18 proves that.

5-10 appearances a season over the next couple of seasons at Chelsea will not aid his development. Yes there is a case of training alongside better players but he has been training with our first team for the last 2 years. The lad needs games.

I agree with Leif. He isn't ready for the Premier League yet. Let's loan him to a Championship club, hopefully one which will be pushing for promotion and therefore there will be expectations upon him to perform. I know a lot of people are critical of Owen Coyle, but I am thinking perhaps a team like Bolton. Apparently they have first choice on one of our youngsters on loan next season as part of the Cahill deal. Having lost Reo Coker in the middle of the park and woefully short of creativity, McEachran would do well there IMO.

In regards to his size, I'm not too concerned about that. If he bulked up too much, he would lose some of the nimbleness about his play. By playing a full season of first team football he would adapt his game, mind and body to get the best out of himself.

And the issue about him turning 20 next March - so what? Bertrand is only starting to get a break now and he's 23 at the beginning of next season. There is a mentality in England that if a player hasn't broken through whilst a teenager, then he never will. Patience is required. A season in the Championship and then a season in the Premiership to follow would hopefully give him 50-60 games at least over the next 2 seasons under his belt. Then we can make a genuine judgement on him and how he may develop - he will only be 21 by then!

And the same goes for the likes of Piazon, Chalobah, Ake, Feruz, etc. All have the potential to break into Chelsea's first team squad, but they're all years away currently.

[Tomo 21,751]

Think we in general are starting to get a tad obsessed with his development.

If he is patient and good enough he will force his way in eventually, Bertrand is proof of that.