Premier League Homegrown rule

[Badboy 1,526]

I won't even comment about Ronaldo being that good, I'd take Lampard every day over him. Our players don't dive, only a few do like Gerrard, Joe Cole and maybe a few more. Our foreigners are the cheats in the EPL not our own.

Lampard better than Ronaldo . English players are cheats too its not only foreign players, the premiership would be one of the worst leagues in the world without the foreign players. The foreign players have made it a global brand, english players have learned a lot from the great foreign talent that have played here.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

He didn't say Lampard was better. He said he'd choose Lampard over Ronaldo.

And so would I. He's more consistent. And correct me if I'm wrong here - he's also scored more goals in the league than CR9.

[Blueboy 14]

He didn't say Lampard was better. He said he'd choose Lampard over Ronaldo.

And so would I. He's more consistent. And correct me if I'm wrong here - he's also scored more goals in the league than CR9.

CR9 also has about 21/22 goals atm

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Ronaldo has 22 because he's a cunt.

[Badboy 1,526]

Ronaldo has 22 because he's a cunt.

Ronaldo is on a different level than lampard talent wise. Ronaldo is a freak of nature pure freak of nature, he is unbelievable in the last third of the pitch. Ronaldo is also a lot younger than lampard, he is only going to get better he is the most complete attacking player in the world.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I'm not denying that. Of course he's better.

I'd still prefer Lampard in my team though. Better professional, and he has a better contribution that Cheatiano.

[.Cee 50]

I'm not denying that. Of course he's better.

I'd still prefer Lampard in my team though. Better professional, and he has a better contribution that Cheatiano.

True, but if both were offered to us, I'd bite the hand that offered both.

[Blueboy 14]

Ronaldo is on a different level than lampard talent wise. Ronaldo is a freak of nature pure freak of nature, he is unbelievable in the last third of the pitch. Ronaldo is also a lot younger than lampard, he is only going to get better he is the most complete attacking player in the world.

I think your wrong. That's exactly the difference between Ronaldo and Messi. CR ofcourse has a fair amount of talent, but he is the one who trains more than any other professional. If you look at his skills, they pretty much are the same every time. Nonetheless they are often clinical and it looks nice but the reason he has those quick feet is for an important part his training.

Messi on the contrary, is just pure talent. I still hate the guy however (Ronaldo too btw, so don't know if it's relevant )

[Badboy 1,526]

I think your wrong. That's exactly the difference between Ronaldo and Messi. CR ofcourse has a fair amount of talent, but he is the one who trains more than any other professional. If you look at his skills, they pretty much are the same every time. Nonetheless they are often clinical and it looks nice but the reason he has those quick feet is for an important part his training.

Messi on the contrary, is just pure talent. I still hate the guy however (Ronaldo too btw, so don't know if it's relevant )

If i had to pick a player out of Ronaldo or Messi for Chelsea i would pick Ronaldo every time, messi is the best dribbler i have seen in a long time, but ronaldo is the complete attacking threat. Ronaldo is a freak of nature he is unbelievable, united would of walked the league this year if they had him.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Same could have been said if we had the world's best midfielder fully fit all season.

[Blueboy 14]

I think your wrong. That's exactly the difference between Ronaldo and Messi. CR ofcourse has a fair amount of talent, but he is the one who trains more than any other professional. If you look at his skills, they pretty much are the same every time. Nonetheless they are often clinical and it looks nice but the reason he has those quick feet is for an important part his training.

Messi on the contrary, is just pure talent. I still hate the guy however (Ronaldo too btw, so don't know if it's relevant )

If i had to pick a player out of Ronaldo or Messi for Chelsea i would pick Ronaldo every time, messi is the best dribbler i have seen in a long time, but ronaldo is the complete attacking threat. Ronaldo is a freak of nature he is unbelievable, united would of walked the league this year if they had him.

Messie probably woud have get the shit kicked out of him against teams like Stoke . And Ronaldo already has proven how important he can be for ManUre, so i agree with you on that, would also have picked him. But as Bluelion says, Essien would have :pwned: him.

[EskWeston 696]

Thought i would revive this thread to highlight where we are at the moment as a club with these rules and what it could mean to our transfer targets and players looking to break into the team. We stand at the moment like this:

1.(HG): John Terry

2.(HG): Ashley Cole

3.(HG): Frank Lampard

4.(HG): Ross Turnbull

5.(HG): Daniel Sturridge

6.(HG):

7.(HG):

8.(HG):

9. Petr Cech

10. Branislav Ivanovic

11. Michael Essien

12. Ricardo Carvalho

13. Didier Drogba

14. Mikel

15. Florent Malouda

16. Jose Bosingwa

17. Yuri Zhirkov

18. Paulo Fereira

19. Deco

20. Salomon Kalou

21. Nemaja Matic

22. Alex

23. Nicolas Anelka

24. Hilario

25. Yossi Benayoun

So as we stand right now the only spaces we have are for Homegrown players. As it looks like there are going to be no English players coming into the club we can assume that those spots will be taken by players like Bertrand, Cork, Mancienne ect. Now i am pretty sure that Di Santo will not class as Homegrown so if we want to keep him around then it is going to be something we will need to look at. You could say that Carvalho and Deco are very likely to leave so if we do let them go then there are spaces for 2 foreign players.

Basically the majority of the youngsters we have around will come into the U21 bracket and be kept in the squad without having to use up any places.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, this rule is utter bull. All it does is encourage teams to take youth talent away from other countries rather than find English ones. Teams are going to Spain, Germany and other European teams to get their u18s and it's just wrong. Teams like Manchester United do it all the time, the case of Macheda being a perfect example. The rule needs to be changed to include a clause, 80% of homegrown have to be English.

[Mungii 3]

I just wanted to ask something??...Why isn't Mikel HG player when we had signed him when he was 18??

[EskWeston 696]

I just wanted to ask something??...Why isn't Mikel HG player when we had signed him when he was 18??

"A homegrown player is classed as a player that was registered with the FA or the Welsh FA for 3 entire seasons before their 21st Birthday"

Mikel was signed by Chelsea in June 2006. He turned 21 in April 2008. Which means he only played 2 full seasons before his 21st birthday.