Joker10 946 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Mehh.. if Riquelme was in the squad (or better said, his old self), he would without a doubt be a starter. Pastore's problem is more the fact that he's more the dribbling and final ball player type rather than a real playmaker, which is what they really needThere is a difference between Riquelme and Pastore, Riquelme is perfectly suited to play the AM position for Argentina in a 4-3-3 flat, he plays much deeper in midfield then Pastore. Riquelme is similar to Lampard and Gerrard while Pastore plays higher on the pitch similar to Kaka and Ozil. Messi drops far deeper then any CF, his position is occupying the Trequartista space. For Argentina to play Pastore they would have to change their formation, maybe 4-2-3-1 in which Pastore would play behind Messi. But this would not allow Messi the freedom and space to drop back in which he likes to do a lot for Barca and NT, and if you do this you are not getting the most effective messi on the pitch. If they had Riquelme there would be no need for formation changes, because can fit into the current 4-3-3 flat without any changes. Riquelme and Pastore are simply different players. Riquelme just happens to be much more versatile and what Argentina needs atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 The situation must be resolved in the next 15 days, otherwise, the player will remain with us. Source: The TelegraphPublished: 5th JulyQuotes: Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Chelsea told by Palermo they must make an offer for Javier Pastore in next 15 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfall 893 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If someone bid 50M, why isn't the deal done already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 I do not know, brought the information that the transfer depends on the consent of Boas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slam Dunk 1,442 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 If someone bid 50M, why isn't the deal done already? Probably because either more than one club have bid (most likely), or they are waiting for other clubs to bid in order to get more money. Bidding only gets you the opportunity to discuss/propose terms with the player/agent anyway. It's not as simple as bidding £50M and the player moving the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionsden 4,689 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Not even well renowned mugs like real madrid, man city and us would pay £50m for pastore. Palermo's president is delusional and has lost touch with reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest justin_3d Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Not even well renowned mugs like real madrid, man city and us would pay £50m for pastore. Palermo's president is delusional and has lost touch with realityI hope Chelsea can play hardball like they did with Benfica and David Luiz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chelsea_4_eva 1,183 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 make or break time now really... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Not even well renowned mugs like real madrid, man city and us would pay £50m for pastore. Palermo's president is delusional and has lost touch with reality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Would rather have little Modric for £10 million less, and that money goes towards signing a young winger, the type of player we actually need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 An opinion of why Javier Pastore is valued at £45millionJavier Pastore is 22 years-old, has played 103 competitive football games, scored 25 goals, assisted 14, and cost his current club Palermo only £5 million when he joined them from the Argentinian side Club Atlético Huracán just two years ago. Now, in 2011, the Argentine attacking midfielder is being offered to clubs for over £40 million. How on earth has that happened, and why do so many believe that Pastore is worth that obscene amount?Many of you may have looked at Pastore on YouTube when you heard clubs like Manchester United, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Chelsea were interested in signing him. You may have seen his silky skills and elegant passing, his attacking style and eye for goal. Of course, that's great to see, and possibly a joy to behold, but do you really believe that he is worth the same as Zinedine Zidane was back in 2001? Is he really someone who you would risk splashing a staggering amount on in the hope that he could change the fortunes of your club?In truth, I don't believe anyone is worth that amount, but then you have to look at the situation from a footballing point of view - football is in a whole world of it's own when it comes to money, and it's a world we can't even begin to comprehend. So I suppose in footballing terms, yes, Javier Pastore looks an impressive and very promising talent, with huge potential to grow into a world beater. But still - £45 million? It seems too much.Hang on. Who's "interested" in the player again? Manchester United, Manchester City, Real Madrid, Chelsea and AC Milan. Ah. It makes sense now. Of course Pastore isn't really worth the £45 million that we have been quoted. No, but Pastore's club know, that they have a young player capable of special things in their midst, and clubs with a seemingly limitless bank balance are interested - namely, Manchester City, Real Madrid and Chelsea.This is something that many clubs with talented young players can now do; raise the price of their player when big clubs circle, quote them the sum expected, watch as they ponder thoughtfully while checking their wallets carefully, and sell the player for a massive profit. It's brilliant, and many clubs set out now, looking for young, promising, rough diamonds, with a profit in mind. Udinese are a perfect example.Alexis Sanchez, the talented South American, who has been the subject of big bids from Manchester United, City and Barcelona this summer was part of Udinese's project of signing up loads of young, cheap South American and African footballers in the hope that one or two will turn out like Sanchez has so that the club can sell them on for a huge profit. Udinese were lucky that both sides of Manchester - the red and he blue registered interest in Sanchez, as it only increased his valuation - a valuation Barcelona are struggling to meet.The Palermo chief has recently spoken about Javier Pastore's future, stating that it is very likely that his young star will be leaving this summer:"There's a 90 per cent chance that he'll go away, because it is the desire of the player. That is normal when you know that certain clubs want you.""Pastore will go to England or Spain. The favourites are Real Madrid and Malaga. Manchester City are also interested in him, as well as Manchester United and Chelsea."So the truth is, Pastore isn't really worth £45 million, but Palermo know that clubs will be willing to pay that amount for him - and they will of course be willing to accept the money. Pastore may be very talented; his skills, his passing, his vision, his creativity, his flare, his talent for impersonations, but in my opinion, he isn't worth £45 million.Source: Football-talkPublished: 7th JulyIt's just an opinion of the original writer. Interesting read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 At the end, Sneijder and Modric become more expensice than Pastore. Let's see...Sneijder earns 10 million yearly at Inter, Modric would want at least 7 million to come, Nasri the same (7 million) while Pastore could have a low salary (like Luiz) of around 4 million yearly. If they sign a 5 year contract, at the end Pastore becomes cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 Chelsea told by Palermo they must make an offer for Javier Pastore in next 15 daysBLUFF tell them to keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Chelsea and Real hunt Pastorehttp://www.skysports...7027941,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Chelsea and Real hunt Pastorehttp://www.skysports...7027941,00.htmlAs if Real Madrid need anymore Midfielders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,582 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Real don't need..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave30 728 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 So many games being played by santos and fiorentina . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted July 8, 2011 Share Posted July 8, 2011 Real don't need.....12 MFs fighting it out for 5 positions. It offers amazing depth, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domino- 116 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 Chelsea FC and Real Madrid CF target Javier Pastore wanted by Serie A clubhttp://www.crunchsports.com/category/Soccer/Chelsea-FC-Real-Madrid-CF-target-Javier-Pastore-wanted-by-Serie-A-club-201107110069/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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