The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's his birthday today. Happy 19th. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Was back in the side yesterday and played 89 minutes in a 0-0 draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Was back in the side yesterday and played 89 minutes in a 0-0 draw. 0 tackles and 71% passing. sounds bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 0 tackles and 71% passing. sounds badNo idea how he played, I only saw the match events. Forest fans have not been at all impressed with him, though. They feel he was just a "brand advertisement" signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.bo 48 Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Think if we dont sign any midfielders in January,Jose should look at Chalobah and give him afew games as he liked what he saw in pre-season,as this loan hasnt progressed him as everybody probly thought it would. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,227 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Think if we dont sign any midfielders in January,Jose should look at Chalobah and give him afew games as he liked what he saw in pre-season,as this loan hasnt progressed him as everybody probly thought it would.I would agree had his loan reports been very impressive. Like Josh, Nathaniel is not a regular starter and I must put this down to form. I know one can argue he would find it easier to settle in playing with us because of the better players around him but if he wants to earn starts and a place here he has to prove it out on loan first imo. If we bring him back from his loan to not play we are wasting him imo. He needs games and even if he has not been that impressive at Forest, he will know he needs to step up his performances a notch. Sounds harsh but I would not be content with settling with a player to come in midfield for us while he can not get in a Championship team on a consistent basis and I highly doubt Jose will be willing to take that risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac.bo 48 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I would agree had his loan reports been very impressive. Like Josh, Nathaniel is not a regular starter and I must put this down to form. I know one can argue he would find it easier to settle in playing with us because of the better players around him but if he wants to earn starts and a place here he has to prove it out on loan first imo. If we bring him back from his loan to not play we are wasting him imo. He needs games and even if he has not been that impressive at Forest, he will know he needs to step up his performances a notch. Sounds harsh but I would not be content with settling with a player to come in midfield for us while he can not get in a Championship team on a consistent basis and I highly doubt Jose will be willing to take that risk.Yeah agree with this current loan but sometimes these just dont work out for different reasons,but the watford 1 did work out and we will need some sort of backup in Cm imho from now to end of season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herpthederp 122 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 The loan deals for young players are there to get them used to consequential football, not to turn them from academy players into Premier League ones. It time to start easing Chalobah into the first team with games here and there, as was begun with Josh and then abandoned. Barkley never impressed in the Championship either, now look at him. The only place to be and Mufassir08 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9099162/Chalobah linked with a move to Middlesbrough and they are, apparently, looking to agree on some loan deals with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,759 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9099162/Chalobah linked with a move to Middlesbrough and they are, apparently, looking to agree on some loan deals with us.They want Essien too. I spoke with Mark Proctor yesterday and he confirmed this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
We Hate Scouse 10,352 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 They want Essien too. I spoke with Mark Proctor yesterday and he confirmed this.Bit ambitious considering Essiens agents comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,759 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Bit ambitious considering Essiens agents comments.Well Gibson is ambitious, fair play to them if they give it a go I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We are one injury away from having to rely on Essien in midfield yet we cant give Nat a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 We are one injury away from having to rely on Essien in midfield yet we cant give Nat a chance. Nat sucked in the championship...why shoudl he deserve to play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Nat sucked in the championship...why shoudl he deserve to play?He didn't suck last year in the Championship, he's just struggled at Forest this year. Last year he did enough did deserve a chance in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Nat sucked in the championship...why shoudl he deserve to play?Barkley hardly set the world alight last year look at him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toli 977 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Barkley hardly set the world alight last year look at him now.yes, maybe, but its probably easier to get in to Everton's team than in to ours. Evereton often dont have the money to spend big on players and so they try to utilize more academy players. we in contraire are a top team and its way harder for a young player to get into it if you arent even expressing yourself at your loan. Me, personally would give him a shot, but I dont think Mou will do it. looking at Madrid, he mostly played Morata (who was one of the best in the Castilla) for example or Nacho (probably the best defender of the Castilla).Also Mou already said that he will start our best players against Derby, so no chance for the youngsters beside maybe the 2nd half if we have a solid result by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herpthederp 122 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 You can't judge a player by how well they did in the Championship. Barkley was unimpressive, while Zaha tore it apart. Now look at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 He didn't suck last year in the Championship, he's just struggled at Forest this year. Last year he did enough did deserve a chance in my opinion.He's a terrible defender and has a poor workrate/engine.I'm not surprised he's getting booed every other game at Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted January 5, 2014 Share Posted January 5, 2014 You can't judge a player by how well they did in the Championship. Barkley was unimpressive, while Zaha tore it apart. Now look at them.You're wrong. You can judge a player based on the Championship, just like you can judge people based on their play in the Dutch league or the MLS. People have to stop bringing up Barkley as a comparison because it's awful. He played 17 games in the Championship and was fine when he played. He scored 4 goals in 13 games with Sheffield where he was very good. The reason he didn't play much at Leeds is because, according to their manager, "He’s best playing behind a frontman, but that was difficult for me at Leeds as I had Ross McCormack and that was his best position too. McCormack was the No 1 man at Leeds so it was hard to leave him out for a teenager on loan, but when I played one of them wide it didn’t suit either of their strengths." Barkely also played 9 games with Everton last year and 9 the year before so they knew what they had. Chalobah hasn't played a single game above the Championship and isn't not playing because Forest is stacked, he's not playing because he's been poor. And Zaha not playing is more an indictment of the talent difference between the Championship and Premier League than anything else. It's a massive jump that few players are able to make. Even the best players in the Championship have difficulty impacting the Premier League. Chalobah needs a good loan where he can get playing time and work on his game. He's gone backwards since last season. Stats and Peace. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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