Waterfall 893 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 He's been at Watford for 3 months now. There's no need to rush and risk an 18 year old's development based on 3 months. If the worst thing that can happen to him by leaving him at Watford is that he will dominate Championship for next 6 months, I am cool with that. Hell, I'd be ecstatic. If we rush him and he sits on the bench, that would be the worst possible scenario. zolayes, blue_everest, Amblève. and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Yes seriously. The season before we finished third - I remember being excited about us pushing for the title because I was there.Now like I've said, I know all the arguments for taking time with player development except most of that's based on me following Chelsea all my life and we don't really develop players. So what exactly is Chalobah missing from his game to be included in our first-team, because in my humble opinion he isn't missing anything except a little bit of fitness.Chelsea is one most prolific football clubs in the world right now, the expectations are sky high. Any comparison is pointless, the club as a whole has changed completely during the last 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Chelsea is one most prolific football clubs in the world right now, the expectations are sky high. Any comparison is pointless, the club as a whole has changed completely during the last 10 years.But the one thing that hasn't changed in football in that time is if you're good enough, you're old enough. Bosnian Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 But the one thing that hasn't changed in football in that time is if you're good enough, you're old enough.Will Chalobah really be good enough to compete for a starter spot next year?! I highly doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Will Chalobah really be good enough to compete for a starter spot next year?!I think he's good enough to compete for one. I've watched him play for many years now and he's always looked a class above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I think he's good enough to compete for one. I've watched him play for many years now and he's always looked a class above. Well, then we have different views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Well, then we have different views.Really? What specifically do you think he is lacking at this point in time? To me, it's simply a bit of fitness from the 70th minute on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amblève. 4,995 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Really? What specifically do you think he is lacking at this point in time? To me, it's simply a bit of fitness from the 70th minute on.First of all, experience. This a critical aspect, I know, but personally I prefer gaining experience before putting a youngster into the first team. Grittiness (if that's the correct English term for what I want to say) to able to stand his ground when he faces players like Charlie Adam, as well as being more direct. He still likes to try too much when the easier option would be the better one, but that's really only got to do with experience.His fitness and overall physical attributes have to improve, his body is slim, a few more muscles will do wonders for him, just so he's able to dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 First of all, experience. This a critical aspect, I know, but personally I prefer gaining experience before putting a youngster into the first team. Grittiness (if that's the correct English term for what I want to say) to able to stand his ground when he faces players like Charlie Adam, as well as being more direct. He still likes to try too much when the easier option would be the better one, but that's really only got to do with experience.His fitness and overall physical attributes have to improve, his body is slim, a few more muscles will do wonders for him, just so he's able to dominate.He already has the physical 'grittiness' and I'd fancy his chances against Charlie Adam anyday. Plus he's already fairly strong so sticking him in the weights room won't change much.Experience is overrated sometimes. Whatever happens, his first game in a Chelsea shirt will be his first game. No amount of games at Watford or Wigan or West Brom will change that.The fact is you didn't point out any technical aspects that he needs to improve and that's largely been the case for most of his time at the club. He's stepped up to each challenge and I think we've got to look to use him sooner rather than later. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 @Observer_Owl: Excellent news. Just spoken to Gianfranco Zola and 'it looks like' Nathaniel Chalobah will remain on loan at #WatfordFC http://t.co/eeMx0ji5Great news. I think the club are handling his development very well. They have never stopped him from progressing just because of his age eg. he's always been playing at a level above his age, but club allowed it to happen as he was that good. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Physically Chalobah is fine. He used to be very skinny, and abit small (remember when he came on in 2010 as a sub in a pre-season friendly? He looked tiny), but watching him on Friday, he's pretty big now. 6"2 at least, and he's quite imposing. You won't see him rushing around like a headless chicken sliding in because he's not that type of player. Generally he's always positioned well enough that he doesn't have to. He's also a danger in the air now as well. The only place to be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Great news. I think the club are handling his development very well. They have never stopped him from progressing just because of his age eg. he's always been playing at a level above his age, but club allowed it to happen as he was that good.Great news. They seem to be giving him enough responsibility and there's a chance at a playoff run.Physically Chalobah is fine. He used to be very skinny, and abit small (remember when he came on in 2010 as a sub in a pre-season friendly? He looked tiny), but watching him on Friday, he's pretty big now. 6"2 at least, and he's quite imposing.You won't see him rushing around like a headless chicken sliding in because he's not that type of player. Generally he's always positioned well enough that he doesn't have to. He's also a danger in the air now as well.He's always been big for his age, but his technique is phenomenal too. His reading of the game is at a level that 90% of pros will never have and he's got that knack of slowing everything down and not panicking. A good season and he'll be in contention under a new manager in the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_President 404 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Hopefully he gets this loan sorted out and he could play against city in the FA cup 3rd round. I was speaking to a friend earlier this morning(who goes to all Brighton matches and saw him) he was really impressed by Chalobah and his maturity+technique on the ball. Hope he is given an opportunity (when I say this, I mean more than 10 mins in a dead rubber game) here as he has outgrown the Championship at the age of 18. If anyone watches him regularly on here - how do you think he would fair in a 3 man midfield as the most defensive player (ala busquetes, just less of a twat), just behind to more attacking minded CMs. Or, is his technique so good that he would be wasted there and be better further forward so he can assist more in attacking build-up?Edit: looking at twitter all the Watford fans are thankful that he has been there and are hoping he stays, that speaks volumes in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 Yeah, was just about to say, his next match is against City. Big match for him. Is it live?I think he could fill any midfield position. Box to box, or a more static regista, even an attacking midfielder. Could probably be one of those players who you could see playing anywhere. In a 4-3-3 I think he'd be equally adept at the aforementioned box to box role or just a DM. I would prefer DM at his age, and then he can grow into a more attacking role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhanaBoy 104 Posted December 31, 2012 Share Posted December 31, 2012 I still believe he will end up as a CB because he has the attributes for it and a future partner for David Luiz.PS: our midfield is stacked with talent and he will be a a great centerback, that has the attributes of thiago silva and Ricky Cavaliho. People need to checkout his performances for England u17 at their world cup and see how he performed as a centerback. Possibly another Luiz on our hands, but calmer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DavidEU 2,023 Posted January 2, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted January 2, 2013 http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3024873/title/chalobah-stays-with-watfordStaying at Watford with Franco until the summer. Good news. Superblue, Beigl, Stats and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_President 404 Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/3024873/title/chalobah-stays-with-watfordStaying at Watford with Franco until the summer. Good news.Very good, I'm going to try and watch him more, heard Watford play some good stuff under Franco as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! lebow120 5 Posted January 3, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted January 3, 2013 Nat V Brighton. ja1, Rambo, Mr_President and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Such a sensible decision by the management. He is only 18 for christs sakes and will finish the season with a stack of first team games at Championship level under his belt.Possibly a loan next season to a top Championship club or even lower Prem club, and he should then be ready to challenge in our first team. Huge potential. Mr_President 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyll 5 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 All the qualities to be a huge player! Bags of potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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