ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 It looks like this is finally happening. This will really help with developing our younger kids players and also provide an option on loaning players that will not get first team minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,334 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 We probably waited to make sure they stay in Ligue1 which is now pretty certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Assuming we send Slonina there next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 Also happening in Portugal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 18, 2023 Author Share Posted May 18, 2023 One of the reasons to get these clubs going right now is to bring over these future stars that cannot come to England. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 Minority investment, but allows our young players a club to develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucio 5,418 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Should start by not running this club into the ground. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 This needs to be kept in check. There is a considerate conflict of interests when parties own several clubs or stakes within those clubs. eg two teams in CL playing each other with the same ownership makes it possible for one team to be downgraded for the owners benefit and fans detriment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 20, 2023 Author Share Posted June 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted June 20, 2023 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Think this multiple team ownership is a house of cards waiting to collapse once results that are rigged can't be hidden Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,219 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 On 20/06/2023 at 18:22, Fulham Broadway said: Think this multiple team ownership is a house of cards waiting to collapse once results that are rigged can't be hidden could you flesh this out a little more m8? TIA Vesper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Vesper said: could you flesh this out a little more m8? TIA Vesper Yeah results can be rigged in a roundabout way that benefit the MCO (multiple club owners) investment. Figures from around two years ago showed around 200 clubs had multiple owners. Can see so many problems with this. It creates different tiers of clubs: the parent and a feeder club. If you are a fan of a parent club then you are lucky, but not if you are a fan of a feeder club. It could also be the end of transfers as we know it as there could only be transfers between the groups clubs. As a player you can start off with a feeder club and move up to a parent club, but this promotes inequality and poisons the competitiveness of the market. If you have this group of clubs that trade between themselves and shift players back and forth it is cheaper and puts them at a competitive advantage. Larger groups will appear and pose a threat to the game’s governing bodies. Alex Phillips, reckons there is a solution. He is former head of governance at UEFA, and says that the increase in MCOs does not have to be bad if regulated differently. “You have to ask what the purpose of an MCO is,” says Phillips. “If it’s to evade taxes and launder money then it’s obviously bad but if it is investment then it doesn’t have to be. From a financial perspective, it can make a lot of sense. But regulators should regulate from a transfer perspective and regulate the number of contracts each club can offer. If you limit contracts, clubs need to rely on their academies.” This, he argues, would stop clubs stockpiling players and instead of alienating fans could create a greater bond. MCOs are unlikely to go away any time soon and how the game’s administrators deal with regulating challenge will affect the relationship between fans, players and clubs in the years ahead. At the moment it seems the governing bodies dont want to rock the boat - I reckon thats because of the billions invested, the TV rights, the hospitality and bribes (i'm guessing here) and where do they fucking start - the tiger is in the room. It's a growing trend, not just multiple club ownership, but player ownership as well. There was some posts back in another thread about players having no loyalty to a particular club, those days are long gone. UEFA now have 6500 players from 195 clubs – that are employed by 27 multi-club investment groups, a third of which are based in the US. Makes all the furore years back about Tevez 3rd party ownership seem cute now. Vesper and Fernando 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 It is time for Strasbourg to buy Arsen. Mhsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 They have done everything they have said so far. Their only screw up was summer window and Potter. If they can learn from their mistake and improve they will be a force by the time the 10 years of ownership has come. ZAPHOD2319 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,098 Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 So do we send all of our young players to Strasbourg then? Do we fund Strasbourg to start signing loads of promising, affordable young players (just not the ones WE want?!) Multi club is gonna be a minefield. Do we now support Strasbourg? ZAPHOD2319 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,819 Posted June 22, 2023 Author Share Posted June 22, 2023 7 minutes ago, Mhsc said: So do we send all of our young players to Strasbourg then? Do we fund Strasbourg to start signing loads of promising, affordable young players (just not the ones WE want?!) Multi club is gonna be a minefield. Do we now support Strasbourg? I am curious to see how this shakes out. Todd said it would allow us to have control over the young players we are buying rather than loaning to teams and hoping for the best. We surely could not just send all our developing players, the teams need to be competitive to stay at the top levels in the country. If this allows us to keep buying young players and developing them, I’m all for it. We really need a top league team in South America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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