Sheva. 5,373 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 His fault or not, it can have a negative impact on the team. And if you say I'm reading too much into it, then aren't we all reading too much into that he has been thrown into the U21 team because of the wages?! Maybe it's because of something else that we don't know about! No one from the club has come out to say anything yet...He's clearly been thrown into the U21 because he is not in the managers plans, as evidenced by him hardly even playing in any of our first 5 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 He's clearly been thrown into the U21 because he is not in the managers plans, as evidenced by him hardly even playing in any of our first 5 games.You just don't throw a player into the U21 team just because he is no longer in the manager's plan. Have you seen Ferguson, Wenger or Mourinho doing that?! And it's extremely silly to do that with Malouda when our options in midfield are already low with the departure of Essien and Meireles. Blue Armour and capriccioso 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 His fault or not, it can have a negative impact on the team. And if you say I'm reading too much into it, then aren't we all reading too much into that he has been thrown into the U21 team because of the wages?! Maybe it's because of something else that we don't know about! No one from the club has come out to say anything yet...I doubt it will effect the players. They will understand that he has not been performing at a high level for a while now and as a result needs to be moved on. Football is a business, most player understand this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I doubt it will effect the players. They will understand that he has not been performing at a high level for a while now and as a result needs to be moved on. Football is a business, most player understand this.Seem to remember that wasn't the case last season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 You just don't throw a player into the U21 team just because he is no longer in the manager's plan. Have you seen Ferguson, Wenger or Mourinho doing that?! And it's extremely silly to do that with Malouda when our options in midfield are already low with the departure of Essien and Meireles.All three have done it. Ferguson with Hargreaves, Mourinho with Kaka currently and Wenger did it Viera when he was getting on a bit. You have to be ruthless to succeed and can't let sentiment dictate your decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Seem to remember that wasn't the case last season...Last season was very different. AVB clearly had personal issues with Cole and Lampard, to the extent that he played Bosingwa as a left back over Cole, when Cole is clearly the better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 All three have done it. Ferguson with Hargreaves, Mourinho with Kaka currently and Wenger did it Viera when he was getting on a bit. You have to be ruthless to succeed and can't let sentiment dictate your decisions.Hargreaves's case was entirely different. He didn't get thrown into the youth team. His constant injuries was what prevented him from playing and training.Kaka is still training with the Madrid's first team and Mourinho has said he still part of his plans. Though he won't use him much in matches, Kaka will still get game time in certain circumstances.As for Vieira, it was more of a case Wenger wanted to invest in youth and sell off the senior players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Last season was very different. AVB clearly had personal issues with Cole and Lampard, to the extent that he played Bosingwa as a left back over Cole, when Cole is clearly the better player.I was referring to the Anelka and Alex case. The Cole and Lampard issue was different! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Hargreaves's case was entirely different. He didn't get thrown into the youth team. His constant injuries was what prevented him from playing and training.Kaka is still training with the Madrid's first team and Mourinho has said he still part of his plans. Though he won't use him much in matches, Kaka will still get game time in certain circumstances.As for Vieira, it was more of a case Wenger wanted to invest in youth and sell off the senior players.Kaka has more or less been completely dropped, as has Carvalho, Mourinho basically told both to leave. They won't play kaka now they have Modric and Ozil, there is no place for him and so Mourinho being a good manager has removed him from the set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowan_Osborn 58 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I was referring to the Anelka and Alex case. The Cole and Lampard issue was different!Its still very similar to Cole and Lampard, Anelka and Alex were still important. Before we bought Cahill, Alex was our only CB cover, and last year we were drastically short up to so selling Anelka made no sense. RDM has better man management skills than AVB did, RDM has probably spoken to Malouda, whereas AVB failed to communicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumps 284 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 This is a bit harsh. none of us know the ins and outs, but I dont understand why not just keep him as a back up player instead of banish him from the senior squad because he wouldnt leave.Chelsea gave him the contract with the wages and the length, he is in his right to refuse a move away, so if he refuses, we shouldnt banish him. at least just say "look, Flo, you know you aren't needed, we will be using you for back up because to be honest, you've lost it, pal. I haven't seen you do ANYTHING for a good season now, so just lay low, play a few league cup games, and enjoy the rest of your life." and them keep him fit so if we need him he isn't useless.just doesn't seem a very professional way to approach things.Sure, if Malouda had walked in to RDM's office and smashed him round the face with his gear, sure, go train with the under 21's. but if hes just riding out a contract they gave him... no need for it.im sure this will upset a few players as well. this wouldnt go on in FM without a couple of players wanting to chat because they are upset with the way the manger treated the player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nullabletype 987 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Personally, I think we should just let him go. Malouda can be poor and hasn't done himself any favors as far as getting a place in the team goes. But it seems harsh to toss him in to the reserves. If he isn't in our plans, then release him and let him get a year of football elsewhere.Of course, our reserves could do worse than to learn a few things off of a pro like Malouda. But still, if he isn't going to be used, then let him go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 He wants to play in Brazil and no Brazilian club will pay his outrageous wages or a high transfer fee.I think he has only one year left on his contract so he'll be leaving next summer on a free transfer.Malouda could be useful at times so a few cameo appearances in FA or Carling Cup won't really be the worst thing for us.Might as well just make use of his services as we can't just kick him out of the club.Let him save up now so that he can take a pay cut later on in Brazil.The guy gave us one terrific season so I guess he shouldn't be treated so disrespectfully for his brave decision to stay here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 This can't lead to anything good. Just wait till the media picks up on that xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,572 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 This can't lead to anything good. Just wait till the media picks up on that http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11668/8054264? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robdog 2,084 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 This can't lead to anything good. Just wait till the media picks up on that The media already has. I have heard many rumors on Sky & Fox Soccer News on the future destination of Monsieur Malouda. Lyon was one of the destinations. I can't remember the other one I heard of yesterday. Clearly Malouda is on his way out. I think his contract is up at the end of this season. Maybe he was being frozen out for not renewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Not sure I'm with Robbie on this one. Malouda hasn't been too great for a while now and I would not be sad to see him go but it seems a bit harsh to toss him into the youth/reserve set up because of the club's failure to move him on. If it's a discilplinary issue like Alex/Anelka then fine, otherwise it feels a little heavy-handed to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 he needs playing time .. he can benefit the younger players ...it is possible to put a positive slant on this robdog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 4,400 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 No. He's a very experienced player who has done a good job for us as a whole and he needs to move on. Where's those Fenerbahce fans gone.... OneMoSalah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Opta @OptaJean 340 - Since joining Chelsea, only three players have created more goalscoring chances in Premier League than Florent Malouda. Sidelined. SeB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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