termninja 5,290 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He should be sold, he doesn't like Serbian music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 While Malouda has not been at his best for a year i find it quite disturbing the amount of hate he gets.Yes want him off the team if he is not performing, yes if you think he does not offer as much as more want him sold and yes crisise him if he aint performing but all this hate befounds me. Do you remember Malouda during Hiddink's spell, the double winning season and the start of 10/11, he was fantastic and really something to behold. It's a shame he gets so much hate and while sadly he will probally never make that standard again he has still contributed a lot down the years and i would imagine he can still get about 10 goals this year.He may not be on form for a place in the team now but i certainly am not going to let one average year cloud over the good things Malouda has given this club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacticalBlues 2,817 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 That's just silly...thinking Malouda can control the club and AVB through the club's media outlet...I think they always use Malouda and Drogba as they're few of the well known foreign players that can actually speak in English. Also, Chelsea TV probably think they're good entertainment value as they can be like jokers in front the camera...Agreed, I do think his time is nearing an end but I certainly didn't see anything menacing in his tone. He's got a good personality, seems like a funny guy but nobody should be scared of this so called "PR campaign" it's funny how things like this can get so twisted. He's a great human being, with all his charity work and stuff. Anyways none of this will impact when he will be sold, his performances on the pitch will define that. It's ridiculous to assume otherwise, with Lamps, Terry and Drogba it is so very different. Difficult to describe it but no matter what Malouda does it can't ever be the same. But I agree Armour, he's good for the cameras and can speak English. I for one am not worried about his air-time.He should be sold, he doesn't like Serbian music! :541: He said he'd give it a shot and I think Kalouda haven't got long left. God I really hope we target Hazard, he'd help take us to the next level with his speed and also Neymar or Goetze (yes I know these two are unlikely). Hoping Kakuta and Davilla have succesfull loans too because the both of them can be whatever they want if they fufill their potential. Pato would be as good as Aguero would have been for me, they're two strikers I have been following for years and always dreamt of grabbing one. Any of these acquisitions would definitely spell Kalouda's end. Besides Kalou hasn't even had a breath of first team action for a few games now, he's going no matter what ( I hope). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 While Malouda has not been at his best for a year i find it quite disturbing the amount of hate he gets.Yes want him off the team if he is not performing, yes if you think he does not offer as much as more want him sold and yes crisise him if he aint performing but all this hate befounds me. Do you remember Malouda during Hiddink's spell, the double winning season and the start of 10/11, he was fantastic and really something to behold. It's a shame he gets so much hate and while sadly he will probally never make that standard again he has still contributed a lot down the years and i would imagine he can still get about 10 goals this year.He may not be on form for a place in the team now but i certainly am not going to let one average year cloud over the good things Malouda has given this club.Even last season, I don't think he was far from his best ; he was at a different kind of best... Yes of course he was not the conventional winger of the Double but he was more tempted to cut inside and the fact is that he is the player who has by far created the more chances of the Championship. It's not a question of only thinking to improve his own stat sheet but really an important change in his way of playing (imo because of the accumulation of matches) that people truly misunderstand and say that he is selfish and lazy.I'm French so I used to watch the France's games last season and the contrast between the perfs in club and in selection were striking, he was very good against Blackpool and then he was crap against Bosnia or England I don't remember, and then the next Chelsea game he was at his best. So i'm convinced it was just a matter of change his playing style because of the games accumulation. And who to blame ? Sure, not him, he did just his best to manage to play such a huge number of games whereas nobody did or could replace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 While Malouda has not been at his best for a year i find it quite disturbing the amount of hate he gets.Yes want him off the team if he is not performing, yes if you think he does not offer as much as more want him sold and yes crisise him if he aint performing but all this hate befounds me. Do you remember Malouda during Hiddink's spell, the double winning season and the start of 10/11, he was fantastic and really something to behold. It's a shame he gets so much hate and while sadly he will probally never make that standard again he has still contributed a lot down the years and i would imagine he can still get about 10 goals this year.He may not be on form for a place in the team now but i certainly am not going to let one average year cloud over the good things Malouda has given this club.So we should forget his selfish attitude?His attitude of going for self glory, shooting outside the box when he knows he can't score? Time after time, we see him doing this very thing, when there's other players who are open to a pass. Yes he was very good in the 09/10 campaign.He's changed since then, he's gone back to the 2007 form we all resented from him. Afaik, he did, what other members have said, a "Joe Cole" & only turned up for 2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 He may not be on form for a place in the team now but i certainly am not going to let one average year cloud over the good things Malouda has given this club.One average year?He contributed nothing of note from summer 2007 to the second half of 08-09. Began 09-10 brilliantly and then went missing when it went tits up pre-Christmas, only returning to form during those few weeks when we were scoring 7 every other game. Started 10-11 similarly in good nick and then disappeared, never to return.That's a cumulative 2 decent seasons out of 4. He only plays well when the entire team is doing well. His attitude stinks, he looks like he can't be arsed to make a positive difference and on top of that he comes out with ridiculous comments in the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 One average year?He contributed nothing of note from summer 2007 to the second half of 08-09. Began 09-10 brilliantly and then went missing when it went tits up pre-Christmas, only returning to form during those few weeks when we were scoring 7 every other game. Started 10-11 similarly in good nick and then disappeared, never to return.That's a cumulative 2 decent seasons out of 4. He only plays well when the entire team is doing well. His attitude stinks, he looks like he can't be arsed to make a positive difference and on top of that he comes out with ridiculous comments in the media.It's Malouda's fault if Grant did prefer Kalou over Malouda ? Your opinion is not exhaustive, you do not mention the number of games he has to play for almost 2 seasons...I do not agree, he was a player that contribued to the success of the team, and last season he was as important as the season before even if his play did change. Kalou is a player enjoying the form of the team, not MaloudaThis massive change in his play is a piece of evidence that he is smart football player (not an opportunistic) because he did manage to adapt the game rate (due to the absence of real alternative) to a playing style that could allow him to still perform (creating chances last season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmax 9,219 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 It's Malouda's fault if Grant did prefer Kalou over Malouda ? Your opinion is not exhaustive, you do not mention the number of games he has to play for almost 2 seasons... 2007-08 Stats : Malouda - Apps : 27 (9), Goals : 3, Asssits : 3Kalou - Apps : 32 (14), Goals : 9, Assists : 10Just 5 more starts for Kalou, which is not a big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 17, 2011 Share Posted September 17, 2011 You can't only mention that kind of overall statistic, if I remember well, they were 2 clear periods where Malouda did disapear from the group (not even coming in) during the winter and the spring. He started every game under José and was used promptly by Grant after that, dropped without reason etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Why I would rather keep Malouda than Kalou is simple - when he comes on, things happen. He is a massive goal-threat, even last season when we wasn't playing well he got 14 goals for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badboy 1,526 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Why I would rather keep Malouda than Kalou is simple - when he comes on, things happen. He is a massive goal-threat, even last season when we wasn't playing well he got 14 goals for us.Alex he is still one of the best pure footballers at this club. He has brilliant technique, he was always going to suffer a dip in form he was sensational beyond belief for a while ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 18, 2011 Share Posted September 18, 2011 Alex he is still one of the best pure footballers at this club. He has brilliant technique, he was always going to suffer a dip in form he was sensational beyond belief for a while !And that's where the great shame comes.He hasn't shown that side of him since early 2010, when we were winning 6-0 regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm surprised how people can't see that he just changed his way of playing and has not stopped his career and signed a representation contract with the club... Maybe he is not the 2009-2010 left winger who could humiliate that lot of defenders and sticking to the touchline, but he is equally usefull in the building of the goals, being able to switch the play, creating dangerous situations with his intelligence and vision...His volume of play is phenomenal, in the middle by example and he he is not as stupid as Kalou who would guzzle the space of the left back on the wing and lose the ball with a crap dribble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I'm surprised how people can't see that he just changed his way of playing and has not stopped his career and signed a representation contract with the club... Maybe he is not the 2009-2010 left winger who could humiliate that lot of defenders and sticking to the touchline, but he is equally usefull in the building of the goals, being able to switch the play, creating dangerous situations with his intelligence and vision...His volume of play is phenomenal, in the middle by example and he he is not as stupid as Kalou who would guzzle the space of the left back on the wing and lose the ball with a crap dribbleI strongly disagree about his abilities now.My opinion is, he's a liability in our squad. He doesn't work as hard any more, he's lazy, he doesn't pass and he tries to shoot from areas where he knows he can't. I thank him for 2 very good season, but I'm afraid he's not the left-winger we've been seeking anymore.He was a horrible choice to replace Robben/Duff and now, with Mata proving effective in the hole, it's time to find a new left-winger. No Perreira, but someone younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,442 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I strongly disagree about his abilities now.My opinion is, he's a liability in our squad. He doesn't work as hard any more, he's lazy, he doesn't pass and he tries to shoot from areas where he knows he can't. I thank him for 2 very good season, but I'm afraid he's not the left-winger we've been seeking anymore.He was a horrible choice to replace Robben/Duff and now, with Mata proving effective in the hole, it's time to find a new left-winger. No Perreira, but someone younger.Really?Thought he played ok when hugging the touchline against Bayern.Judging from Malouda's reaction after the game, it seemed as he was happy (from a sense of justice) that even Lampard and Terry would also lose their places to squad rotation.I think he always carried a slight grudge against certain players, Lampard especially, for retaining their starting 11 spot game after game even if the performance didn't really warrant it. Now he probably feels the coach is unbiased and rotates as when he feels like, so there is a chance we could see a decent, if not spectacular showing from Flo this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cechmate 15 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 He's a selfish player . I honestly think he'd be horrified if he set up Torres for a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 I strongly disagree about his abilities now.My opinion is, he's a liability in our squad. He doesn't work as hard any more, he's lazy, he doesn't pass and he tries to shoot from areas where he knows he can't. I thank him for 2 very good season, but I'm afraid he's not the left-winger we've been seeking anymore.He was a horrible choice to replace Robben/Duff and now, with Mata proving effective in the hole, it's time to find a new left-winger. No Perreira, but someone younger.What can you reproach him of during the game versus Leverkusen ? He had a great activity as defensively as offensively, did remind by moments the left flank that crashed Marseille in CL. Tonight against Foolham he is very good.It's only a matter of rythm, he is 31 and like Lampard, Drogba or maybe Cole ; can have struggles to cope with the physical preparation. He is increasingFor me his play has changed but not his contribution in the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kojo 4,676 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 I strongly disagree about his abilities now.My opinion is, he's a liability in our squad. He doesn't work as hard any more, he's lazy, he doesn't pass and he tries to shoot from areas where he knows he can't. I thank him for 2 very good season, but I'm afraid he's not the left-winger we've been seeking anymore.He was a horrible choice to replace Robben/Duff and now, with Mata proving effective in the hole, it's time to find a new left-winger. No Perreira, but someone younger.Brilliant post!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 What can you reproach him of during the game versus Leverkusen ? He had a great activity as defensively as offensively, did remind by moments the left flank that crashed Marseille in CL. Tonight against Foolham he is very good.It's only a matter of rythm, he is 31 and like Lampard, Drogba or maybe Cole ; can have struggles to cope with the physical preparation. He is increasingFor me his play has changed but not his contribution in the play.It's not about Malouda's age.It's about his worth ethic - or lack of. He's never been one to give it his all, only when the overall team is doing well. Just look at his performance when Torres arrived! No passing, no gameplay, just trying to shoot outside the box - When he knows he's incapable.I'll give him this much.. He's been a bit more, conserved in midfield. Perhaps because there's no expectation of him to run down the wing.As I said though, with Mata proving effective in the hole, behind the striker(s).. The need for a more effective left-winger will be greater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeB 1,281 Posted September 23, 2011 Share Posted September 23, 2011 In the midfield he has often very decent games.But about his work ethic I did always notice a clear difference between what we can see in his play, his volume of play, his quality in the last pass, shooting ability (it's not new, he has always had a great shooting ability)... and the critics that were made of him at Chelsea or at Lyon. A TV journalist used to call him Florent Maladroit (=clumsy), did bash him for the habit he had to play backward to Abidal, or the "apparent constatation" that he sorted his games etc. It's not new that he has a surprising important part of people who bash him whereas he is not necessarly a player who makes all to be hatedI'm not saying that all the criticisms are not justified, but I'm surprised by the violence of that critics, fairly often ignoring the fact that his stamina is a kind of guarantee for a manager who can be tempted to play him every games (especially when this manager is Ancelotti) whereas although he has the intelligence to adapt his game to a situation where he has to play very often ; he has physical limits like every ofther player and logically it is felt on the long term...Against Fulham, he orchestrated the offensive animation in the same time as he helped his left back. And when he plays on the wing he is available and although he likes to shoot very often, he keeps that quality in the last pass like he did show last season. Some critics are based but not all that all the whole Malouda bashing would make us believe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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