29. Wesley Fofana

[Vesper 29,065]

 

[Special Juan 27,440]

Said it yesterday when it was announced that Anselmino was announced that that was the trigger about Fofana being fucked again

[Thor 2,447]

Reece and him have to go now. 

 

Get some proper help at RB and CB.

[Special Juan 27,440]

Fofana came ere in summer 2022, 70m pounds and has only made 31 appearances, that is just simply pathetic 

[LAM09 6,806]

It was actually nice having a full fit squad for about 3 days. I'd imagine we will probably be in the market for another CB now.

[Special Juan 27,440]

Anselmino will come in and Maresca go with him and stand by Disaster

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

52 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Fofana came ere in summer 2022, 70m pounds and has only made 31 appearances, that is just simply pathetic 

200kpw in wages too. 

[Special Juan 27,440]

17 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

It was actually nice having a full fit squad for about 3 days. I'd imagine we will probably be in the market for another CB now.

That was never going to last, too many injury riddled players like the two we are discussing. 

 

 

[LAM09 6,806]

39 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

That was never going to last, too many injury riddled players like the two we are discussing. 
 

I know. I just had an ounce of hope things would change, so plenty of rumours went around last season that Poch was largely to blame for his training routine.

[Special Juan 27,440]

21 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

I know. I just had an ounce of hope things would change, so plenty of rumours went around last season that Poch was largely to blame for his training routine.

I had hope as well, but when you sit in a dark room and think about things the answer you get is normally the realistic one and also the true one. It's not the training or anything like that, that's causing this to these players, they are just simply broken.

If it was car you would scrap it

[LAM09 6,806]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

I had hope as well, but when you sit in a dark room and think about things the answer you get is normally the realistic one and also the true one. It's not the training or anything like that, that's causing this to these players, they are just simply broken.

If it was car you would scrap it

I feel like time is running out for a number of these broken goods. There's no point having players on high wages who can't even be relied on for three games straight (James is part of that discussion).

[robsblubot 3,541]

1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

I feel like time is running out for a number of these broken goods. There's no point having players on high wages who can't even be relied on for three games straight (James is part of that discussion).

yeah and who would take these players on high wages now? Nothing to be done with James, of course, but Fofana was hardly a surprise.

[Mhsc 924]

Oh dear - if he is out for the season that is pretty terrible for us.

I haven't really spoken about it but I actually really rate Wes, he has come back and clearly been rusty and to my eyes, plays a bit like he doesn't fully trust his body. I was starting to get quietly excited that maybe he was finally going to turn a corner with this one game a week approach. Gutted if he is out for the season and think we are pretty terrible without Wes, and have no obvious alternative to him - the way he does the M2M press, plays proactively and aggressively, he was just perfect for Maresca's system and we are immediately a drastically worse team without him, TBH not sure we even can effectively play Maresca's strat without him (against reasonable opposition).

Btw, I don't really understand the hate Wes is getting - "sell this fucker" ... What's he done wrong? It is not his fault, and it is not Reece's either. I agree in general we should try to get them both off the books if we can but I really don't see any reason to dislike either player and personally only wish the best for them. I hope they can both make a real career still. I just don't think it should be on our books if we can manage it.

It is only the owners fault for giving these guys with known injury problems long expensive contracts so if there is gonna be any heat it should go to Boehly imo.

[OneMoSalah 8,793]

For what he cost, wages, games he played, games he missed, long term injuries he has accumulated over this period time…. He has to go.

We really do have to be ruthless. Like with Kante, Mount, Koulibaly, Werner, Sterling, even Gallagher. Various reasons for some of those guys but still, the same ruthless approach has to he considered.

70M and only 35 games or so over what 3 seasons? Hes now 24. Need to really take a look at it and think is he gonna be worth the hassle?

Edited Friday at 20:58 by OneMoSalah

[LAM09 6,806]

3 hours ago, robsblubot said:

yeah and who would take these players on high wages now? Nothing to be done with James, of course, but Fofana was hardly a surprise.

Arguably the most rounded RB in world football? 

I'm sure there would still be plenty of takers. You miss the Saudi league, btw?

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1 hour ago, LAM09 said:

Arguably the most rounded RB in world football? 

I'm sure there would still be plenty of takers. You miss the Saudi league, btw?

I'm not questioning his quality, but a player who never plays has no value. If he joins the Saudi league at 25, considering his quality, that'd be a very early retirement.

Edited Friday at 23:09 by robsblubot

[Mhsc 924]

12 hours ago, LAM09 said:

Arguably the most rounded RB in world football? 

I'm sure there would still be plenty of takers. You miss the Saudi league, btw?

Is he still? Tbh, I think if we look back on this forum there will be plenty of criticism of Reece when he plays - it has been years since he was genuinely the best RB in the world. He is out of practice at...everything, for obvious reasons. He makes a lot of bad decisions defensively these days, lacks concentration, and of course is a bit yellow/red card prone.

Reece is mostly living off of his old reputation and a ball striking ability that is every bit as good as it ever was imo.

Absolutely should sell both if we can but anyone that takes on these guys wages and pays a fee to buy them would be considered extremely negligent. Maybe the Saudi league would do it but I doubt either would agree to go - why should they? Great wages already here and staying living with the fam in London. If we send them to the bomb squad it makes literally no difference to them as they hardly ever train or play anyway.

[LAM09 6,806]

3 hours ago, Mhsc said:

Is he still? Tbh, I think if we look back on this forum there will be plenty of criticism of Reece when he plays - it has been years since he was genuinely the best RB in the world. He is out of practice at...everything, for obvious reasons. He makes a lot of bad decisions defensively these days, lacks concentration, and of course is a bit yellow/red card prone.

Reece is mostly living off of his old reputation and a ball striking ability that is every bit as good as it ever was imo.

Absolutely should sell both if we can but anyone that takes on these guys wages and pays a fee to buy them would be considered extremely negligent. Maybe the Saudi league would do it but I doubt either would agree to go - why should they? Great wages already here and staying living with the fam in London. If we send them to the bomb squad it makes literally no difference to them as they hardly ever train or play anyway.

I'd say so, with TAA being the obvious other name who can't defend to save his life. James' subpar performances at times for us have come when managers want to limit him at RCB, which is such a waste of talent. 

The better weather might help him with his injury problems like it has done with Kante. Either way, the Saudis want a marquee English signing, and he would be exactly that, injury history or not.