Chelsea Transfers

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20 hours ago, LAM09 said:

The allegations were linked from his Wiki page, which can be altered by anyone with a brain cell.

wiki is contantly watched for fake news and corrected

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 Sky Sports say a “gentleman’s agreement” is in place for the Caicedo to leave Brighton for Chelsea. Today should see Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang join Marseille on a free transfer and Conor Gallagher has caught the eye of both Tottenham and West Ham. 

Evening Standard 24 mins ago

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19 hours ago, lucio said:

Greenwood has a baby and relationship with the supposed victim so I wonder what happened there 

he beat the shit out of her but she has battered wife syndrome and retracted

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20 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Imagine believing Mendy is innocent or Greenwood for that matter are innocent just because they escaped jail.

cannot recco this enough!!!!

thank you

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We’ve been “weighing up,” “considering,” and “talking directly with Brighton” for weeks now. These journalists may as well not even say these things if nothing has changed. They’re just repeating themselves a hundred times. 

I saw someone remark how strange it was that we went crazy buying loads of players that we may not have needed the last couple of windows and had no issue putting up the huge fees. Now there’s a player that we desperately need and we’ve been haggling for ages. That’s what’s most frustrating about the Caicedo saga.

If the club wants to haggle and play stubborn hardball for targets in positions we’re steady in that’s all fine and good. But our midfield has 1 top class player + a bunch of literal teenagers currently. So why are we dragging our feet on the most important position in the team?

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deep misogyny here from some of these posts

I do NOT want to hijack this thread with a long dissertation on this

but ffs it disturbs me to no end to see violence against women attempted to be gaslit away and claimed it never happened (as if, for example, Greenwood's partner beat the shit out of herself)

OR

simply being found not guilty in a court of law means the crime did not happen and was not committed by the accused (see OJ, see a thousand mob cases, etc, or, back in yank Jim Crow days (and sometimes even now), white juries finding clear murderers, etc of us black folk by white folk to be 'not guilty')

technicalities leading to a not guilty decision and/or jury nullifications (or outright jury fraud via tampering, etc) happen every day

woman recant things against their partners all the time for a myriad number of illegitimate reasons, including battered wife syndrome

I have had multiple straight female friends of mine (and even 2 lesbian friends in regards to their violent female partners) stick with a violent male partner and have too often heard the excuses  of 'oh, he did not really mean it' or ' he will change' or 'well he is under a lot of stress financially/socially/family-wise' etc

Edited July 21, 2023 by Vesper

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19 hours ago, lucio said:

Shame for his career if he’s truly innocent. He was a great player in my book 

he was never that great, as look at Citeh constantly trying for other LBs long before his legal woes

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3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

he was never that great, as look at Citeh constantly trying for other LBs long before his legal woes

I meant greenwood , he had really nice shooting. Dumb thug though,  should be punished 

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19 hours ago, DDA said:

This thread has gone awol.

I apologise if I have contributed to that

but I will not abide open misogyny

I personally have a thick skin (try growing up a mixed race black lesbian, lol) but some of the things said here are archetypical toxic lad culture adjacent

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Just now, lucio said:

I meant greenwood , he had really nice shooting. Dumb thug though,  should be punished 

ahh, I totally misread that, so sorry

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I wonder if Brighton would like Gallagher ??

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1 minute ago, Vesper said:

ahh, I totally misread that, so sorry

No problem 

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Just now, lucio said:

I wonder if Brighton would like Gallagher ??

THAT would be a win win for everyone (IMHO)

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18 hours ago, Gundalf said:

Villa with a solid transfer window. This years competition will be as tough as never

great signing by Villa

NEVER would have guessed over the past 3 years or so he would end up there

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28 minutes ago, Vesper said:

he beat the shit out of her but she has battered wife syndrome and retracted

Yep. Whether Greenwood was actually convicted for his crimes or not there should be zero doubt to the fact he's a piece of shit who beats women. The photo and audio evidence was clear as day and I don't think I've ever even seen him try to deny it. 

The whole thing smelled really bad from the start with even the father of the girl coming out in defense of Greenwood, which probably had more to do with the fact Mason Greenwood is a multi-millionaire rather than him being genuinely concerned about the well-being of his own daughter.

The Benjamin Mendy case seems a bit more vague though. The fact there were so many women accusing him would lean me to think there was something in the allegations but having read some media reports of the court case leaves some doubts too. An article on the Guardian quoted one of the accusers texting one of her friends the day after supposedly being raped at one of Mendy's sex parties as 'the best day of her life' and seemed to take pride in having shagged some celebrity footballers.

Even if some of the Mendy charges had actual merit, things like that are what probably brought the whole thing down like a house of cards. To convict him the jury would have needed to believe beyond any doubt he had indeed committed the horrible acts and having some bogus allegations in the mix probably provided the reasonable doubt Mendy needed for the not guilty verdict. Whether Benjamin Mendy is a rapist or not is unclear but at the very least he's a repulsive sex addict who in court bragged about sleeping with 10000 women in his life.

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we are so lucky to be in the EPL

we are the ONLY league that can truly compete against the Saudi billions simply due to players wanting to play against the best players

sure, Barca, Real, and Bayern can do so individually on reputation and results alone

but even AC Milan, Juve, Inter, Atletico Madrid, Napoli, Dortmund, and yes PSG, (to lesser extent as they can also pay huge wages, even if not Saudi level) PLUS all the rest of the smaller teams in La Liga, Serie A, Ligue 1, and the Bundesliga are FUCKED and will only become more so as all those leagues become more and more drained by the Saudis and their filthy lucre

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42 minutes ago, Vesper said:

but ffs it disturbs me to no end to see violence against women attempted to be gaslit away and claimed it never happened (as if, for example, Greenwood's partner beat the shit out of herself)

I actually agree with alot of your points, but I also stand by the fact, just because a women said it happened doesn't mean it did, the reason there is so much gaslighting is because there is so much false accusations from men and women, unfortunately the two come hand in hand, more recently you have underage boys and girls now going out in to clubs pubs what ever at the age of 14 with fake ID and they look 21, sleeping with adults males or females and shit just hits the fan.

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20 hours ago, YorkshireBlue said:

He was a good young player, shame a drunken conversation was even recorded in the first place, if every one recorded convos of Thiers partners saying stuff when they are drunk the courts would be absolutely rammed everyday 

a shame?

yes, but NOT the way you mean