Chelsea Transfers

[Pizy 19,323]

16 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Exactly. And he clearly wants off. Which he did the same thing with Benfica after all of 2 minutes there too after the WC. So fuck him.

Quite frankly, for me, he won’t be missed that much. Yes the goals and assists he’s got this last 12-18 months have definitely made him look a good player and very important to the team but he’s effectively played as a 10/inside 8 off the left sometimes. Palmer had better stats and performances under Poch playing centrally.

He was meant to be an all round midfielder, dictating games, getting round the pitch, whatever else like did at Benfica (well like he apparently did!). Time and time again he hasn’t shown this when playing as a 6 or 8.

Would rather see Palmer more centrally in that role Enzo has been utilised in, might get him back to his best alongside this prolonged summer break he’ll get. For £106million to get 12-18 months of decent performances, I don’t see the uproar, we’ve lost a lot better calibre of players to Madrid in Robben, Hazard & Rudiger. 

Good luck to him also, Mourinho will undoubtedly prefer the likes of Valverde, Camavinga, Tchouameni & Bellingham due to their physical as well as technical attributes so wouldn’t be surprised if its a move that doesn’t necessarily work from the off.

Jose hasn’t changed either he still values the physical qualities in his players.

Yeah, I will definitely say that it’s kind of awkward timing for Enzo to try to force his way to Madrid. They’ve got several top quality players in every position he plays in AND they will have a manager who always prioritizes physicality and energy over all else. I suppose in a much less physically demanding La Liga you could very well play him deeper in midfield unlike here in the PL so maybe that’s where he plays? Because in those advanced midfield positions where he has been playing for us they’ve got Bellingham and Velverde who are definite Mou players and Guler who is really developing well.

If they move Camavinga and/or Tchouameni then he obviously has a place. 

 

[Mário César 1,502]

At least we will need to sell one good player 

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5 minutes ago, Mário César said:

At least we will need to sell one good player 

Jorgenson, Malo Gusto, Tosin, Badiashile, Disasi, Andrey Santos, Garnacho, Gittens, Pedro Neto, Tyrique George, Jackson, Delap

Take your pick. All of them can go in my book

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1 hour ago, Strike said:

Jorgenson, Malo Gusto, Tosin, Badiashile, Disasi, Andrey Santos, Garnacho, Gittens, Pedro Neto, Tyrique George, Jackson, Delap

Take your pick. All of them can go in my book

Depending on the formation I think Gusto and Andrey Santos could play big roles in Alonso’s team as squad players but the rest definitely need to all go.

Our problem of course will be that unless our owners/board are willing to rip the bandaid off and take massive losses just to give us a clean slate it’s going to be a massive pain in the ass to find buyers willing to spend close to what we paid for Garnacho, Gittens, etc.

Garnacho is probably still a big enough “name” that he will likely be sought after by European clubs. Gittens though feels impossible to shift out unless it’s a loan since the price we paid for him was criminal AND because he showed nothing all season. Can see maybe some bottom half PL team taking him on loan and that’s probably his level.

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23 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Depending on the formation I think Gusto and Andrey Santos could play big roles in Alonso’s team as squad players but the rest definitely need to all go.

Our problem of course will be that unless our owners/board are willing to rip the bandaid off and take massive losses just to give us a clean slate it’s going to be a massive pain in the ass to find buyers willing to spend close to what we paid for Garnacho, Gittens, etc.

Garnacho is probably still a big enough “name” that he will likely be sought after by European clubs. Gittens though feels impossible to shift out unless it’s a loan since the price we paid for him was criminal AND because he showed nothing all season. Can see maybe some bottom half PL team taking him on loan and that’s probably his level.

Gittens was pretty much injured all season I don’t understand how any attacker in our system last year was supposed to be evaluated when everything we did last year was so disjointed. We have no wing play all season even Estevao who looked really good at the beginning of the season couldn’t get a look because we try to play everything through the middle. I feel like with Alonso style that gives more opportunities to some of the wingers to show more than they did all season.

[Pizy 19,323]

16 minutes ago, bluesman2610 said:

Gittens was pretty much injured all season I don’t understand how any attacker in our system last year was supposed to be evaluated when everything we did last year was so disjointed. We have no wing play all season even Estevao who looked really good at the beginning of the season couldn’t get a look because we try to play everything through the middle. I feel like with Alonso style that gives more opportunities to some of the wingers to show more than they did all season.

Even when he was fit he looked in way over his head. He was giving Mudryk vibes in that he looked unbelievable taking on players and beating them for fun at their previous clubs and then as soon as they stepped up to the PL they seemed terrified and couldn’t do anything. 

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2 hours ago, Strike said:

Jorgenson, Malo Gusto, Tosin, Badiashile, Disasi, Andrey Santos, Garnacho, Gittens, Pedro Neto, Tyrique George, Jackson, Delap

Take your pick. All of them can go in my book

He said good player 🙂

Among the ones you listed, I would keep:

Gusto

Gittens(bad momentum to sell, either loan or keep)

Jackson

Santos maybe, but I am not impressed by him

[Vesper 31,143]

Chelsea

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/198711646/Chelsea

• Former Chelsea manager Enzo Maresca has already been speaking with Marc Cucurella about the Spanish left-back joining him at Manchester City. (Simon Phillips)

• Although Cucurella wants to leave, it is thought that new manager Xabi Alonso really wants to keep him and will push to persuade him. (Simon Phillips)

• Chelsea could also be serious contenders for Jarrod Bowen, with the England international looking to stay in London even if he’s set to leave West Ham if they get relegated. (Simon Phillips)

• Chelsea look ready to rival Arsenal for the transfer of in-form Bournemouth wonderkid Eli Junior Kroupi, though the Cherries insist he’s not for sale. (Daily Mail)

• Chelsea striker Liam Delap is being tipped for a move to Everton as he’s unlikely to survive under incoming new manager Xabi Alonso. (Football Insider)

[Pizy 19,323]

Barco basicslly confirmed now. And I see lots of Chelsea fans on Twitter who clearly haven’t watched him and are moaning. But I am super confident that he will be a great signing. Perfect technical ability, great passer, whilst also being very combative and versatile.

I think for sure he and Hato will rotate in the left sided combo role. Just a smart signing exactly Jorrel was. 

[Mário César 1,502]

enzo is talked now to join city 

[Pizy 19,323]

8 minutes ago, Mário César said:

enzo is talked now to join city 

Criminal if we do that. Selling arguably our best player this season to a team we’re trying to compete with just can’t happen. These owners trying to get the Chelsea supporters back on their side by correcting mistakes they’ve made. Selling our vice captain and one of our best players to a direct rival will piss everyone off even more.

Unless there’s some sort of deal where Foden for example comes the other way since they have Cherki as their new starboy.

[Mário César 1,502]

 

[Mário César 1,502]

2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Criminal if we do that. Selling arguably our best player this season to a team we’re trying to compete with just can’t happen. These owners trying to get the Chelsea supporters back on their side by correcting mistakes they’ve made. Selling our vice captain and one of our best players to a direct rival will piss everyone off even more.

Unless there’s some sort of deal where Foden for example comes the other way since they have Cherki as their new starboy.

If they offer us €100 million, he can go, to be honest — but it depends on the player we bring in to replace him

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7 minutes ago, Mário César said:

If they offer us €100 million, he can go, to be honest — but it depends on the player we bring in to replace him

If we sell him we surely do so for much more than that. At least getting back what we paid for him. If Elliot Anderson is rated at £100m than Enzo is easily worth more.

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20 minutes ago, Mário César said:

 

This source is a big-time grifter

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10 minutes ago, Pizy said:

If we sell him we surely do so for much more than that. At least getting back what we paid for him. If Elliot Anderson is rated at £100m than Enzo is easily worth more.

tbh, I dont believe that we can demand a value above 100M, specially without ucl

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Barco basicslly confirmed now. And I see lots of Chelsea fans on Twitter who clearly haven’t watched him and are moaning. But I am super confident that he will be a great signing. Perfect technical ability, great passer, whilst also being very combative and versatile.

I think for sure he and Hato will rotate in the left sided combo role. Just a smart signing exactly Jorrel was. 

Does he play on the left or as a 6? I'm happy to see him come in too and think he's a rare Strasbourg signing we got perfectly right 

[Pizy 19,323]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Does he play on the left or as a 6? I'm happy to see him come in too and think he's a rare Strasbourg signing we got perfectly right 

He looks to play all across the left side of the pitch whilst also often tucking into midfield. I’m not sure how he’d fare purely as a 6 in the PL sure to his really small size but in the current Cucu role or as a LWB where he gets up and down the pitch I think he’s perfect.

Will never be as good defensively as Cucu but he’s a whole different level in terms or dribbling, ball retention, and most importantly passing.