Chelsea Transfers

[Jase 43,479]

Just now, Blues Forever said:

Personally i don't see this happening, unless Tuchel ready to promise Abraham a starting role.

Just suggesting it in the event that we really can't get any striker. I don't think it'll happen either but stranger things have happened between players and managers. Maybe Tuchel doesn't need to promise Abraham a starting role, just perhaps a more prominent role in the team, more involvement etc. 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

1 minute ago, Jas said:

Just suggesting it in the event that we really can't get any striker. I don't think it'll happen either but stranger things have happened between players and managers. Maybe Tuchel doesn't need to promise Abraham a starting role, just perhaps a more prominent role in the team, more involvement etc. 

I have the feeling if we can't get any striker, we might turn our attention to sign Sancho.

[killer1257 3,282]

10 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

 

We could try to get up and coming strikers like DCL, Vlahovic, or Daka. Another option would be getting a backup like Ings or Wilson.

Daka has some insane stats. But sadly, I do not see our scouting team to be competent enough to see past those big three strikers. 

Has anyone seen Daka? 

[Jase 43,479]

1 minute ago, Blues Forever said:

I have the feeling if we can't get any striker, we might turn our attention to sign Sancho.

But that would still leave us with just Werner and Havertz as the two striker options.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Just now, Jas said:

But that would still leave us with just Werner and Havertz as the two striker options.

We could use Broja as the 3rd striker.

[killer1257 3,282]

2 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

We could use Broja as the 3rd striker.

I don't think it is a good idea to make Broja the 3rd striker, because now he has started getting some first experiences. He should go out on loan again. Maybe Bundesliga 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

3 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I don't think it is a good idea to make Broja the 3rd striker, because now he has started getting some first experiences. He should go out on loan again. Maybe Bundesliga 

Or sign an experienced striker for a short term, like what Bayern did with Choupo-Moting.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

Or, we could find a striker that fits Tuchel's mold in the hopes he can become a success. 

[Jase 43,479]

9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Or, we could find a striker that fits Tuchel's mold in the hopes he can become a success. 

Any names that fit that bill?

[Blues Forever 1,232]

6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Or, we could find a striker that fits Tuchel's mold in the hopes he can become a success. 

Lets just hope Tuchel not involve too much. Honestly, i'm quite worried regarding his transfer choices at Mainz, Dortmund, and PSG.

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

2 minutes ago, Jas said:

Any names that fit that bill?

I don't know. Since Tuchel apparently identified Lacroix and Tchouaméni, players that aren't essentially marquee but fit a certain requirement, I had hoped he also has a list of strikers. 

4 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Lets just hope Tuchel not involve too much. Honestly, i'm quite worried regarding his transfer choices at Mainz, Dortmund, and PSG.

PSG was all Leandro. But what signings did he make at Mainz and Dortmund that turned out flops? 

[Superblue 6,372]

4 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

Lets just hope Tuchel not involve too much. Honestly, i'm quite worried regarding his transfer choices at Mainz, Dortmund, and PSG.

He'll have an input but he'll be no different to previous managers, and higher up's will have the final say.

[Magic Lamps 11,677]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

You have to wonder if Tuchel has a network of strikers he is intersted in considering Kane, Haaland, and Lukaku are probably all unattainable. 

Apart from Aubameyang, Mbappe, Icardi and Neymar there would be the more attainable options Anthony Ujah and Shawn Parker from his time at Mainz lol

3 hours ago, killer1257 said:

I do not mind loaning out Hazard for a year. We will see in the WC if he performs better, but from his recent La Liga performances that I watched, he looked okay. One huge difference between Chelsea's Hazard and Real Madrid Hazard is apart from his injuries that Hazard does not have much freedom at Madrid. At Chelsea, he had all the freedom he needed because he is maybe our greatest player ever. At Madrid, he is not their main star and he does not get all the freedom. Currently, Benzema is their main star, prior to that it was Penaldo. So, Hazard will never perform the same. I remember Chelsea vs Manchester City with Sarri as our manager, in which Hazard had no freedom and was not allowed to leave the left winger spot because of Sarri's tactical instructions. Sarri wanted to hold Hazard on the left wing, which should have given RLC more space to penetrate Manchester City's defense. In the end, Hazard did not perform that well and we did not either lol. But Hazard needs freedom to perform at his best. 

Leaning towards the same. A loan is really low risk. NOt sure how well n easy going guy like Eden and a perfectionist like TT would mix but TT is experienced enough to get the best out of him. If we dont find a proper striker, Eden as a false nine backup with the necessary freedom given this position might work if he gets back up to shape. He never had injury problems this bad so i guess reals physios just suck^^

5 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

https://www.ruhrnachrichten.de/bvb/der-bvb-steht-vor-einem-schwierigen-transfersommer-alles-haengt-an-sancho-plus-1636504.html

Sancho will be much likelier to leave Dortmund after the Euros, rather than before, due to current uncertainties and the lack of time to get a transfer done. If someone pays the fee of not far below €100m, he can leave. Looks like the rumours about Dortmund willing to sell Sancho for €85m - €90m are true.

I do belive we can get Sancho. They have a gentlemen's agreement with im at BVB. 90m € flat and he can leave. Would be a sizeable transfer but could see it paying off. Unless he flops like Kepa he could still have resale value anyway. Surely he would entertain the notion of coming back to London and play with his friends RJ, Mount and CHO here.

If we can not get a proper striker a combination of an experienced back up and/or and up and coming one like Daka, Vlahovic or Silva and Eden or another experienced attacker with good output in this mould could be a decent fix. I dont want us to spend big on someone who can not be a very good fit. Rather use an inexpensive mid term solution like Eden on loan or Andre Silva for 34m pounds until a wc striker becomes available.

[R2D2 368]

1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

I have the feeling if we can't get any striker, we might turn our attention to sign Sancho.

This is 100% the right approach, in the past we bought all kind of average duds instead of waiting for the right opportunity, once a good striker will be available you can be sure we will be in for him but buying an average player just for the sake of adding to the numbers means we learned jack shit from the past windows. Fortunately it looks like the club has learned from their past mistakes and started to wait until some quality players show up instead of buying all Bakayokos and Drinkwaters of this world. 

Sancho is an massive chance to add quality to our attack and I surely hope we don't miss out on him especially with no quality strikers available, even if we must suffer another season I'd rather wait than buy for the sake of buying a striker, Havertz and Werner will deliver next season trust the process, maybe even extend Giroud an year and that's it.

Edited May 24, 2021 by R2D2

[Blues Forever 1,232]

40 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

I don't know. Since Tuchel apparently identified Lacroix and Tchouaméni, players that aren't essentially marquee but fit a certain requirement, I had hoped he also has a list of strikers. 

PSG was all Leandro. But what signings did he make at Mainz and Dortmund that turned out flops? 

From what i remember: Castro, Schurrle, Januzaj, Bartra, Gotze, Ede, Kresic, and Zimling.

[Pizy 18,504]

City have shown this season that you can dominate the league without a traditional striker. Liverpool haven’t really had one and dominated everyone as well. Firmino is more of a playmaker.

But you need goals from all over the pitch from you attacking mids to make it work. If Havertz, Pulisic, Mount, and Werner all take a step up next season then I suppose I could imagine us trying for Sancho instead of a striker and going the “death by midfielder” route like City.

It would be extremely risky, though. 

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

4 minutes ago, Pizy said:

City have shown this season that you can dominate the league without a traditional striker. Liverpool haven’t really had one and dominated everyone as well. Firmino is more of a playmaker.

But you need goals from all over the pitch from you attacking mids to make it work. If Havertz, Pulisic, Mount, and Werner all take a step up next season then I suppose I could imagine us trying for Sancho instead of a striker and going the “death by midfielder” route like City.

It would be extremely risky, though. 

That is an incredible risk. I do expect Havertz and Werner to perform better, but we are still asking a lot from both of them when both are likely to play together. What if they are injured?

[R2D2 368]

4 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

That is an incredible risk. I do expect Havertz and Werner to perform better, but we are still asking a lot from both of them when both are likely to play together. What if they are injured?

Extend Giroud.