Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Why did we buy Ziyech when we are allegedly after Havertz? Both operate the same role. Like i said maybe Lampard consider Ziyech as a RW and Havertz as an AM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I don't believe the Havertz rumor one bit but he is versatile enough to play in different positions and given Lampard likes to change formation, it would make sense that he wants players that can play in at least 2-3 positions in the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Yes, Havertz is very versatile capable playing several positions from no. 10, no. 8 , RW, or even False 9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't believe the Havertz rumor one bit but he is versatile enough to play in different positions and given Lampard like to change formation, it would make sense that he wants players that can play in at least 2-3 positions in the team. Honigstein and Johnson are very reliable though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Blues Forever said: Honigstein and Johnson are very reliable though. Sorry, what I meant to say is, I don't believe we would actually go for him. We may be interested but I don't think we will actually buy him. And besides, they didn't say we are negotiating with Leverkusen for him, just interested (aka Monitoring FC). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, Jason said: Sorry, what I meant to say is, I don't believe we would actually go for him. We may be interested but I don't think we will actually buy him. And besides, they didn't say we are negotiating with Leverkusen for him, just interested (aka Monitoring FC). That's true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't believe the Havertz rumor one bit but he is versatile enough to play in different positions and given Lampard like to change formation, it would make sense that he wants players that can play in at least 2-3 positions in the team. Versatility also allows a smaller squad and as a consequence a more happy one. That's why I look forward to Gallagher's return, he played in literally every midfield position for Charlton and strikes me as the type of player that could play literally any outfield position to a high standard. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: Like i said maybe Lampard consider Ziyech as a RW and Havertz as an AM. You said Barkley and Mount Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: You said Barkley and Mount My bad forgot to mention Havertz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 46 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: So why buy Ziyech? Silly season rumor without a doubt. becuase we are losing both our RWers and it's a bonus that both Ziyech and Havertz can play AMF as well. simple I do not see anyone asking why buy Sancho and he is not a even a hybrid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MoroccanBlue 5,383 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Vesper said: becuase we are losing both our RWers and it's a bonus that both Ziyech and Havertz can play AMF as well. simple I do not see anyone asking why buy Sancho and he is not a even a hybrid If we are upgrading Willian/Pedro to Ziyech/Havertz then expectations will be high next season. I also don’t find anything simple in spending over 100 million on a player that is similar to what we already have in Ziyech, when a LB, ST, and CB are needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tomo said: Versatility also allows a smaller squad and as a consequence a more happy one If I knew how to add applause emoji I would. Tomo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jason said: The lad looks very ordinary to me. Can't believe, or perhaps just don't want to believe, we are considering this. NikkiCFC, Tomo and Fernando 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues Forever 1,232 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 minute ago, OhForAGreavsie said: The lad looks very ordinary to me. Can't believe, or perhaps just don't want to believe, we are considering this. Exactly, I also don't understand the obsession with Rice. NikkiCFC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: The lad looks very ordinary to me. Can't believe, or perhaps just don't want to believe, we are considering this. Wouldn't make any sense given the type of players we're building our midfield round. Only way he would fit in this setup would be at CB. Vesper and OhForAGreavsie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: If we are upgrading Willian/Pedro to Ziyech/Havertz then expectations will be high next season. I also don’t find anything simple in spending over 100 million on a player that is similar to what we already have in Ziyech, when a LB, ST, and CB are needed. I already sted I think we end up doing jack shit I am only suggesting doable things (IF Sancho was on the table, Havertz at £85m or so certaily is not outside the realm, and he will cost (pre COVID-19 valuation) 40 to 50m quid less) I have been screaming for 2 new LB's since I joined and obviously we need a striker and a WC CB the big problem is now how are we going to sell all our massive amounts of on roster dregs and oon loan dregs to fund (COVID-19 is fucking up the whole market, so it is not just us, obviously) I expect there is a good chance for fuckall to go down, unfortunately I absolutely can see no new CB coming in (I think Lampard foolishly seems to rate all 4 we have, plus Ampadu maybe), and we will be lucky if we get a LB (unless we do the Alex Sando for Emerson swap) as I just do not see Leicester coming down much on Chilwell, plus the board seems to care less about Telles, Gosens, and Theo Hernandez, and the Italian clubs are fucked financially (to buy Alonso and Emerson) Kante will now 90% likely stay (as we would get fuckall for him atm) and so we probably make no DMF/CMF moves (I love Aouar, but unless we sell our dregs, he isn't coming) hell, we might even cave (or he does) in and re-sign Willian we are bonkers if we roll into the season with only 3 wingers, 2 of them injury prone, and the 3rd who may be needed at AMF a good amount of the time but that's the way the board could roll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: If I knew how to add applause emoji I would. pick yer poison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, Vesper said: pick yer poison Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,195 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 26 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: The lad looks very ordinary to me. Can't believe, or perhaps just don't want to believe, we are considering this. I am the only one on the board that I can recall who rates him, lol I saw him have some dominant games for a really shit team and I think he would be a great CB for us down the road (he has played there in the past) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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