Jase 43,479 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Beigl said: I think its pretty fair to say he hasn´t been exactly a great signing (just like Havertz and Ziyech) so far. Can't really disagree with that but he's also not been like the worst signing either, like how people (not you specifically) are seemingly making it out to be. He has shown glimpses of what he can do. As much as we want to criticize the new signings, I think the second season is the best time to judge the players, especially with all the shit circumstances this season. One would hope things will return to some sort of normality next season - e.g. proper pre-season, no crazy fixture schedule - although the Euros being on is not helpful. Stats, Beigl and killer1257 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero 1,874 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Two dives from Salah, why isn’t he booked??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Patrick Bamford said: Two dives from Salah, why isn’t he booked??? Wrong thread? 🤣 Nero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mana said: Jota would have been less risky to buy than Werner. Jota is at least PL-proven and one of Wolves' best players. Yet, he wasn't Liverpool's first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 I mean if even Tuchel can't get the best out of him, especially with his assistant coach, who used to coach him, who else can? 🙄 I would be happy with him despite not scoring goals if he had a good first touch. I mean Zouma has a bad touch, but at least he is a CB. Werner is a striker ffs. Why do people like Werner or Lukaku never work on their basics? Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason said: Yet, he wasn't Liverpool's first choice. It is not like Klopp never had flops. He bought Keita, who was not PL material and Mina did not perform well either. Who knows how this new CB from Schalke is going to turn out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mana said: Jota would have been less risky to buy than Werner. Jota is at least PL-proven and one of Wolves' best players. Prefer Neto to Jota to be honest. I think that boy could be something special. Top work rate and very good close control. Edited February 21, 2021 by King Kante Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: It is not like Klopp never had flops. He bought Keita, who was not PL material and Mina did not perform well either. Who knows how this new CB from Schalke is going to turn out Hard to judge Keita properly when he has been injury prone since joining Liverpool. Don't think Minamino was ever signed to be a first choice. Kabak was clearly a desperate signing given their injury situation. The fact it's only a loan deal says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, killer1257 said: It is not like Klopp never had flops. He bought Keita, who was not PL material and Mina did not perform well either. Who knows how this new CB from Schalke is going to turn out I do not think Kloop picks many of the signings to be fair, I think Liverpool's signings are largely decided by their analytics team. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, killer1257 said: I would be happy with him despite not scoring goals if he had a good first touch. I mean Zouma has a bad touch, but at least he is a CB. Werner is a striker ffs. Why do people like Werner or Lukaku never work on their basics? I don't know why I'm doing this but I'll bite again. With the way people go on about Werner's bad touch, one would think every - and I mean EVERY - pass to him has resulted in a loss of possession. There are people who keep on complaining about Werner's touch and the same ones who would keep quiet over Abraham's bambi on ice control, for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Mana said: Abraham gets swept under the rug because he's "one of our own" and not part of the £200m+. If people are gonna complain about the basics, then it should be applied to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, King Kante said: I do not think Kloop picks many of the signings to be fair, I think Liverpool's signings are largely decided by their analytics team. Think Klopp does get his fair amount of say at Liverpool. Otherwise, I'm not sure he would have stayed there for so long if all the players bought are dictated by someone else. Am sure there's a proper collaboration between Klopp and their sporting director when it comes to transfers, instead of one trying to impose themselves over the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jason said: Think Klopp does get his fair amount of say at Liverpool. Otherwise, I'm not sure he would have stayed there for so long if all the players bought are dictated by someone else. Am sure there's a proper collaboration between Klopp and their sporting director when it comes to transfers, instead of one trying to impose themselves over the other. At BVB, their scouts identified most of their talents like Lewandoswki for instance. So I think Klopp is used to be just a coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, Jason said: I don't know why I'm doing this but I'll bite again. With the way people go on about Werner's bad touch, one would think every - and I mean EVERY - pass to him has resulted in a loss of possession. There are people who keep on complaining about Werner's touch and the same ones who would keep quiet over Abraham's bambi on ice control, for example. I am pretty sure that Tammy's first touch is better than Werner's. Do you know where I can look up such kind of stat😂 Supermonkey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, killer1257 said: At BVB, their scouts identified most of their talents like Lewandoswki for instance. So I think Klopp is used to be just a coach But don't think the setup at Liverpool is quite the same though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 21, 2021 Share Posted February 21, 2021 1 minute ago, killer1257 said: I am pretty sure that Tammy's first touch is better than Werner's. Do you know where I can look up such kind of stat😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 Both Serie A and Bundesliga are a dream of pacy strikers, because both league's can't handle fast strikers. Beigl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, killer1257 said: Both Serie A and Bundesliga are a dream of pacy strikers, because both league's can't handle fast strikers. More where that came from... For his sake and ours, hope he improves his game going forward... killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 hours ago, killer1257 said: Both Serie A and Bundesliga are a dream of pacy strikers, because both league's can't handle fast strikers. Contes 352 would be great for him. With Lukaku. Not saying we should sell 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted February 23, 2021 Share Posted February 23, 2021 (edited) Good game against Atletico. People talk about his first touch, but I see that it is just not very consistent atm like the rest of his game. That turn and shot (stopped by the goalie) was really good and the first touch, perfect. Just needs to settle a bit more and start turning some of the shots into goals. He does not have to become a prolific scorer to be a great player imo, just improve that final pass/shot. Perhaps now playing in a better system (imo it is) will give him the confidence to do just that. BTW, has been diving a bit too much for my taste. Edited February 23, 2021 by robsblubot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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