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3 hours ago, Jas said:

Still debatable whether it'll actually work. There's a reason why PC games are meant to be played on a PC (or even a proper gaming console) as opposed to being downsized (if that's the right work) for a handheld console. 

The only notable downside I've heard is poor battery life in handheld on max settings, which is to be expected.

People have been crying out for a Switch Pro that could vie with the current-gen consoles, so I believe there's certainly a market & it's competitively priced.

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On 14/11/2020 at 23:53, Atomiswave said:

Keep us posted then, as far as I have seen the PS5 Spiderman is not worth the admission if you have the PS4 one.

After 8 months+, I finally got the PS5! \o/

And I didn't get the PS5 Spiderman, even though I can get a free upgrade from the PS4 version. 

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14 hours ago, Jas said:

After 8 months+, I finally got the PS5! \o/

And I didn't get the PS5 Spiderman, even though I can get a free upgrade from the PS4 version. 

You did, good for you man. So do tell, only had to pay with a leg for that ps5? Maybe an arm too? No worries im sure you get the ps5 version come soon.

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4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

You did, good for you man. So do tell, only had to pay with a leg for that ps5? Maybe an arm too? No worries im sure you get the ps5 version come soon.

lol Had placed the pre-order at two different places, including a Sony store and managed to get it from there. 

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For the record, Elden Ring is a great game. No, it's not a win/win from dark souls, and the open world aspect does not entirely mix with the souls model of sleek level design and tight leveling.

I'm mostly a PC gamer -- it's not only about the GPU/CPU but also mouse and keyboard and/or gamepad/joystick + keyboard -- but would love to get my hands on a ps5 for Demons souls and Spiderman. Ghosts of Tsushima look good too... so many great games... so little time.

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Guys you can now play SM 24 - SOCCER Manager 2024.

The official icon is Mikel Arteta face. 

Only download it from Google Play store.

I just started my Chelsea save.

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13 hours ago, TheHulk said:

Hope the trailer delivers unlike the embarrassment and scam The day before is.

Rockstar in a different league to Mytona - they've reputedly spent over a billion quid on development for GTA VI alone so far

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Female Lead in Video Game “Ghost of Yotei” Triggers Misogynists

https://globalextremism.org/post/ghost-of-yotei-triggers-misogynists/

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Warning: This post contains offensive language.

Misogynistic and anti-LGBTQ+ bigots are fuming at the idea of a woman having the lead in a new video game. At this year’s State of Play livestream, an event hosted by Sony that showcases new video games for the Playstation game console, a trailer for the sequel to Ghost of Tsushima, titled Ghost of Yotei, was released. The trailer garnered positive reactions, albeit with some on the far right, specifically misogynists, targeting the game for including a woman as the main character, and using Erika Ishii, a member of the LGBTQ+ community as the lead actor.

An ongoing trend of attacking women in the gaming industry was re-kindled this year by “Gamergate 2.0,” a follow-up to the hateful #GamerGate campaign in the 2010s which included virulent antisemitism, misogyny, racism, and calls for violence against those seeking to improve inclusive and positive representation, particularly of women, in gaming. Over the past several months, gamers have been targeting game production companies which encourage representation of women, LGBTQ+ people, and people of color as “woke” or “pro-DEI,” terms often used as replacements for, or in conjunction with, slurs. The trend continues with every new gaming announcement, most recently  with the inclusion of a Black woman in the recent Minecraft movie trailer. When hatred in gaming spaces goes unchecked, it can lead to relentless harassment and even influence targeted violence, such as several mass shootings, and a recent stabbing at a mosque by a Turkish neo-Nazi, who utilized several gaming references in his manifesto.

While the usual fringe platforms like 4chan, the Fediverse, and Telegram saw sexist comments flourish, increasingly, common acceptance of hate speech by mainstream social media platforms meant that plenty of gamers took to Twitter, YouTube, and Instagram to express their discontent at a lead female character and direct slurs at Erika Ishii.

Across fringe platforms, several users expressed disdain for having to play as a female character. On 4chan, commenters said the new game’s lead character is an “ugly tr***y,” and an “ugly female.” On the Fediverse, a decentralized group of online forums, users called Ghost of Yotei a “DEI” game and disparaged the decision by Sucker Punch, its developer, to make the main character “some random woman.” Neo-Nazi Telegram channel Alt Skull’s Charnel House made a post decrying Ghost of Yotei for “destroy[ing]” the franchise by “shoehorning in an ugly, masculinized female as the protagonist.” Sexist attacks against “masculinized” female characters are common with misogynist gamers, with other games like Horizon Forbidden West’s main character, Aloy, “flamed by sexist gamers for being made too ugly.” In the comment section of Alt Skull’s post, users claimed the main character of Ghost of Yotei looks like [a] dude with boobs,” attacked Ishii for being a “dyke,” and called anyone who wants to play the game “f*****s…buying woke trash.”

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On Telegram, a large neo-Nazi channel targets Ghost of Yotei and Ishii as “shoehorning in an ugly, masculinized female as the protagonist” (Source: Telegram)

On Twitter, YouTuber “Endymion” posted several tweets in a rant about both the inclusion of a female character and Ishii’s casting in the role. He starts his string of tweets by claiming video game developers “can’t help themselves until every franchise that was built on masculinity is replaced by women” before expressing how “sick” he is “of the forced girlboss narrative.” Other commenters supposedly had “no problem” with Ghost of Yotei’s protagonist being a woman, but were worried about the off-chance that she is a “Mary Sue,” a derogatory term often incorrectly used by misogynists against powerful female characters in fictional media. Several other commenters criticized the game’s inclusion of a woman by calling it “Ghost of Woke,” “Woke of Yotei,” and claiming the decision was fueled by Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) programs. One tweet used a screenshot showing Ishii’s identity as queer and pansexual as proof that the game is “cooked,” which is slang for describing something in a negative way.

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YouTuber Endymion makes a post talking about Ghost of Yotei being part of a larger conspiracy to “replace” men with women in video games (Source: Twitter)

On YouTube, several videos were posted following the State of Play event. Videos attacked Ishii for their activism, calling it a “major problem,” and calling them “woke and unhinged.” Accusations of women as “unhinged” are directly related to age-old attempts to undermine women as “hysterical” or “crazy,” at times used in contemporary politics. Many of these videos took issue with a female lead character being able to “take down armor-clad soldiers twice her size,” citing “immersion” as a primary reason for their concern. “Immersion” is often used as an excuse by the far right and misogynists when justifying the exclusion of women or people of color from video games. Other videos cited Sucker Punch’s hiring of Ishii, who identifies as genderqueer and pansexual, as a sign that “studios change over time,” raising “question marks” about the quality of Ghost of Yotei. YouTube’s Community Guidelines prohibit the publication of any videos “that targets someone with prolonged insults or slurs based on their physical traits or protected group status, like age, disability, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, or race.” Many content creators, in an attempt to evade moderation, have adapted to these guidelines, avoiding outright slurs in favor of “DEI” and “woke” as masks for derogatory insults against people of color and the LGBTQ+ community.

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A thumbnail from a YouTube video targeting Ishii as “woke and unhinged.” Accusing women for being “unhinged,” “deranged,” and “crazy” are age-old attempts to undermine women (Source: YouTube)

The comment section of Sucker Punch’s Instagram post announcing the game was full of the same misogynistic rhetoric, with many disparaging comments about a female lead character and calling the game “woke.” In some cases, commenters’ intentions are overt, saying “nobody wants to play as a woman,” while others are thinly veiled, saying the “woke agenda came after Ghost of tsuashima (sic)” and insinuating a larger “woke” conspiracy by claiming “a female for protagonist was pushed by Sony.”

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Instagram users target Sucker Punch and Erika Ishii in a post showcasing the new game’s trailer (Source: Instagram)

As the far right continues their bigoted tirade against the gaming industry’s attempts to be more inclusive, in many cases being able to normalize their hatred on social media, major social media and gaming platforms must adapt to this evolution and change and enforce their content moderation practices accordingly.

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I have no problems whatsoever with female protagonists both in movies and video games. It can be disingenuous, and often a defense mechanism, to simply reduce everything to that narrative.

I'm going to use extremes to showcase my point: (Alien's) Ripley was a fantastically written female protagonist, while Star War's Rey is horribly written. Of course, we've got a lot of other examples between those two extremes.

It does bother me when there is obvious and blatant preaching going on; it can take you out of the immersion these medias provide.
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I've finally picked up Cyberpunk with the Liberty DLC, and it's still not my cup of tea, but finally now a solid game. It's still very linear, and feels "on rails" which is SO different from Witcher 3 (one of my all time fav).

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