Worst Chelsea players in 21st century?

[manpe 10,861]

On 8/31/2019 at 7:07 PM, Vincent said:

Torres is obviously not Chelsea's worst player of the 21ste century, neither are players as Shevchenko. A better title for these two would be 'most dissapointing', since they've cost a lot and never met their expectations. I would probably vote for Bogarde since he was shit and when he was offered a buyout he refused and demanded his full contract salary which was a ridiculous amount. 

Correct. Worst footballer for me has to be Bakayoko. Most disappointing? Torres by a landslide.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

All of you are too young to remember Jokanovic playing for us he made Baka look like Zidane.

[Superblue 6,372]

42 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

All of you are too young to remember Jokanovic playing for us he made Baka look like Zidane.

There's slow. slower. slowest...and then Jokanovic! Offered absolutely nothing positive.

We had a really good quality midfield at the time but it was an ageing one which made his signing all the more baffling.

I think probably what his saving grace is compared to the likes of Torres and Bakayoko is he wasn't brought as a big money signing to go straight into the first team. He was brought primarily as a backup and thank god stayed that way.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Most dissapointing: Torres

Worst player: Bakayoko possibly

Most idiotic transfer: Drinkwater

[the wes 7,212]

On 27/09/2019 at 0:19 PM, milka said:

Mutu , Kezman , Djilobodji , Baba , Quaresma , Mineiro , Veron , Scott Parker ,  Di Santo , Cuadrado ,Boulahrouz ,  Marin , Zappacosta , Pato , Falcao , Bakayoko , Benayoun , Pizarro , Sidwell , Lassana Diarra , Smertin , Forssell , Stanic 

You forgot to add Chris Sutton to that list he was awful 👍 

[Henrique 9,133]

In terms of football skills: Djilobodji, Gael Kakuta and Mason Mount.

In terms of money: Morata and Jorginho. Both make Shevchenko and Torrers look world beaters.

[Alabama 1,992]

1 hour ago, Henrique said:

In terms of football skills: Djilobodji, Gael Kakuta and Mason Mount.

In terms of money: Morata and Jorginho. Both make Shevchenko and Torrers look world beaters.

U know Mount has contributed more in terms of attacking stats than your beloved legendary Willian that has been in Chelsea for donkey years now...

[Jase 43,479]

57 minutes ago, Alabama said:

U know Mount has contributed more in terms of attacking stats than your beloved legendary Willian that has been in Chelsea for donkey years now...

DON'T. TAKE. THE. BAIT. 

[Vesper 30,083]

3 hours ago, Henrique said:

In terms of football skills: Djilobodji, Gael Kakuta and Mason Mount.

In terms of money: Morata and Jorginho. Both make Shevchenko and Torrers look world beaters.

Ludicrous to put Jorginho and Morata, who we will come close to breaking even on, instead of Drinkwater,  who we will lose over £50m on, or Kepa, who will be around  £65m loss,  when salary and fees are included.

You have real issues with Mount. I detest our LBs but they both are far from worst players ever here. They just are dogshit now for EPL starters for us.

[King Kante 1,643]

Things have to be broken down into categories for things like this. For me, there are; expected to be first team players, most disappointing, actual worst footballing ability, worst squad member that actually got enough minutes to be remembered, mercenary, biggest waste of money. 

Here is my list; 

Mercenary - Winston B. 

Most disappointing - Sheva (£30m in 2006 was like £95m today.) 

Worst squad player that got minutes: The Joka

Expected to be a first team player: Bakayoko

Actual worst ability: Papy D. 

Biggest waste of money; Kepa (being brave here but I see zero qualities that are going to save him, in time I fully expect him to be seen as the time we decided to make a Karius quality GK the world's most expensive GK.) People can say Torres and Sheva all they want but at least they had shown actual talent to be considered top rank players. 

 

[NikkiCFC 8,286]

On 6/29/2020 at 1:42 AM, King Kante said:

in time I fully expect him to be seen as the time we decided to make a Karius quality GK the world's most expensive GK.) 

Wow how can you even say this? Karius quality? Karius is someone who people all over the world make fun of. He looked like complete amateur many, many times...

Liverpool with him could not win trophies, he cost them in CL final with gifting two goals to Real.

I mean he is not wanted in Turkey now ffs...

Real was interested in Kepa before us.

In his first season Kepa was with Eden our most consistent performer. On WAGNH where people vote after every game in season 18/19 he had 6.8 rating.

Only Eden and Kante had better rating. And RLC with 6.9 but he did not play a lot of games. Would we won EL without him? NO.

On this blog again only Eden better and some had same rating as him.

https://cfcdailyblogs.wordpress.com/2019/05/22/chelsea-18-19-player-ratings/

Independent also had him as one of the best.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-season-player-ratings-grades-2019-eden-hazard-sarri-a8920256.html

In 2019 he took number one spot in Spain NT from DDG and Spain have some other good keepers as well.

How would that happen if he is so bad? 

I admit he is not at this level this season but our defense has been shambolic very often almost comical at times. Also there were reports he broke up long relationship in autumn and this could had influence on him.

But he is fine now after being dropped.

During his time here I saw DDG, Lloris, Leno and even Alisson and Ederson making horrible mistakes that directly lead to goals.

What was worst from Kepa in his time here? I think free kick against Ajax and that Newcastle goal but that was not WOW mistake.

I am sure with better defense Kepa would not be a issue at all. I am also sure with him we can win major trophies we just need to sort defense first.

If we give up on Kepa I dont think I remember player being dropped for less.

His price tag is his biggest problem it seems.

Also people are still hating on him and when was the last time we conceded a goal where he did not react good? Newcastle in middle January.

He just needs better competition.

 

[King Kante 1,643]

8 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Wow how can you even say this? Karius quality? Karius is someone who people all over the world make fun of. He looked like complete amateur many, many times...

Liverpool with him could not win trophies, he cost them in CL final with gifting two goals to Real.

I mean he is not wanted in Turkey now ffs...

Real was interested in Kepa before us.

In his first season Kepa was with Eden our most consistent performer. On WAGNH where people vote after every game in season 18/19 he had 6.8 rating.

Only Eden and Kante had better rating. And RLC with 6.9 but he did not play a lot of games. Would we won EL without him? NO.

On this blog again only Eden better and some had same rating as him.

https://cfcdailyblogs.wordpress.com/2019/05/22/chelsea-18-19-player-ratings/

Independent also had him as one of the best.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/chelsea-season-player-ratings-grades-2019-eden-hazard-sarri-a8920256.html

In 2019 he took number one spot in Spain NT from DDG and Spain have some other good keepers as well.

How would that happen if he is so bad? 

I admit he is not at this level this season but our defense has been shambolic very often almost comical at times. Also there were reports he broke up long relationship in autumn and this could had influence on him.

But he is fine now after being dropped.

During his time here I saw DDG, Lloris, Leno and even Alisson and Ederson making horrible mistakes that directly lead to goals.

What was worst from Kepa in his time here? I think free kick against Ajax and that Newcastle goal but that was not WOW mistake.

I am sure with better defense Kepa would not be a issue at all. I am also sure with him we can win major trophies we just need to sort defense first.

If we give up on Kepa I dont think I remember player being dropped for less.

His price tag is his biggest problem it seems.

Also people are still hating on him and when was the last time we conceded a goal where he did not react good? Newcastle in middle January.

He just needs better competition.

ring tough year

 

I categorised him as biggest waste of money for a number of reasons. The reasons are; 

1) He was never a £72m player and had done nothing to warrant such a fee. Hence, where players like Torres and Sheva had records to lean on. Kepa was just some random than we went mental on. 

2) You must be forgetting the Arsenal game at home. That game was for me his worst game as on the 1v1 he did his usual run out into no mans land which allows the player to slide it past him easily, then he dived the wrong way for the Bellerin goal (I mean seriously, how does a GK dive the wrong way?). 

3) Kepa's stats over 3 years (since he broke into the Bilbao first team), show no areas where you can say 'oh, look, he does this really well'. In fact, since he broke in he has conceded more goals than he should have done every single season. 

Kepa has serious defects to his game that will be difficult to iron out. These are:

1) His tenancy to swing his arms behind his back before attempting a save. This is a key reason for his 'weak wrists' and shot/save percentage. Further, this is also why his saves look great, when in fact most of them should be stopped regardless.

2) He is tiny for a GK. As they saying goes in American sports, 'you cannot teach height or size'. This is a big problem in a position, where height is probably the most important thing before agility, some may even argue it is the most inportant. 

3) He isn't brave. This is why he stays rooted to his line all the time and is awful in 1v1's (although I do give him credit for the City game where he closed down Sterling properly. I legitimately think this is the first time I have seen him do the right thing in a 1v1). 

4) His distribution is poor or at best very average. This is a problem as when you're not a top GK owning your six yard area or a top save specialist, you better have great distribution to help on attack like Ederson does. Kepa doesn't. 

5) When balls get cut in, he is very poor at covering his goal and allows himself to get very square on to a shot. Literally, I have not seen a top level GK struggle with this so much. He literally leaves the goal wide open 80% of the time on a cut back or puts himself in a really bad position to save a quick shot.

As I said, anyone who doesn't get the criticism/concerns over Kepa need to read this article; 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2020/5/14/21257561/solving-chelseas-kepa-conundrum-part-1

Further, the arguement that Real wanted him is also not a great one in my opinion. Real hds him pretty much secured for €20m/£18m when he was on wages of around £10-15k per week (his initial Bilbao contract) so they probably could given him £40-50k. However, even in that situation Zidane still didn't want him.