Nicolo Barella

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

But sells for total losses (counting actual market value at the time and turned down offers lost, not just actual paid price v sold price accounting) of well over £150m soon.

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

So you call turning down £65mill for Willian a good deal?

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

Just now, Unionjack said:

So you call turning down £65mill for Willian a good deal?

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

[Vesper 30,083]

1 minute ago, Vybz Kartel said:

This is actually not true Marina usually knows how to sell.she might be incompetent at buying but selling is definitely her strong suit. This is the reason we are constantly in profit because of player trading activities 

Get back to me when the final figures are in on Big Nose, Luiz, Costa, Cesc, Cahill, Eden, Willian, Emerson, Alonso, Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Moses, Bakayoko, Bats, etc etc. Not some plazzy 'oh we paid low sold high' bollocks' but real deal fails on sales that will cost us crazy money as well as deadweight and shit players dragging us down with no replacements in sight (or very few actual positive ones).

We turned down £620m in real, hard offers last summer, NOT even counting anything about Kante.

My £150m loss v those figures is massively conservative against what we will end up getting for those exact same players.

She is going to be (or has been already) bled out like a piggy at Oktoberfest prep. Poor contractual management,  poor buys, often panic-panic in nature, and then makeweight sales is a pear-shaped business model that is going to soon steamroller us.

[Vesper 30,083]

9 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

Can we put this gaslighting about the Willian Barca bids somehow not being real to bed. I and others have tirelessly documented in dozens upon dozens of posts as it happened and now in retrospective that the bids were REAL and turned down.

So sick of this revisionist and false history being pushed. And NO, I am not going to give links, as I have done this so many times already. Its on you and all other Show Me Simons to prove this false narrative.

[Unionjack 7,531]

22 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

There have been rumours of it being 30 million bid, but come on you really think we would turn down that much for Willian at age 29? Barca bid but wanted to low ball us from what I heard. She managed to get 35 million plus for Courtios with 1 year left on his contract and who was forcing a move. She's incompetent with everything else but I disagree about selling. Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

Sadly I do think Mz Penny Pincher would yes.

[Vesper 30,083]

8 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

Sadly I do think Mz Penny Pincher would yes.

The Courtois deal is a perfect example of the board being inept. We could have gotten double the money if they had sold him in 2017 (as any remotely intelligent person could see he was not going to renew and had eyes on Real and they had heart set on him after the De Gea debacle). Great replacements were there, and at far cheaper prices than the clusterfuck 2018 window.

They have very poor strategically focused vision when it comes down to mid to long term event horizons.

Rinse wash repeat with Eden probably. It's pure normalcy bias. Reactive rather than proactive is a shit way to live life and do business.

[kc_blue 265]

This is disappointing to read.  Really think he would be a good buy for us.  If Marina is really worried about money how can we possibly be looking at spending 45 mil on a rb when we have a couple up and comers at that position.  I'm sure a new rb could help but it would be much further down my list of priorities after fixing things up so we get some production out of midfield and someone to take the chances they create.

[Vesper 30,083]

42 minutes ago, Vybz Kartel said:

Marina was the first person to exploit China and get 60 million for an average bum like Oscar. Also I have a feeling Sarri has more to do with Willian staying than marina. 

Alex Teixeira, Hulk, Jackson Martinez (around £115m in transfer fees for just those 3) predated Oscar deal. Also, Tevez was making an insane £600k per week years ago.

[Unionjack 7,531]

5 minutes ago, kc_blue said:

This is disappointing to read.  Really think he would be a good buy for us.  If Marina is really worried about money how can we possibly be looking at spending 45 mil on a rb when we have a couple up and comers at that position.  I'm sure a new rb could help but it would be much further down my list of priorities after fixing things up so we get some production out of midfield and someone to take the chances they create.

haha mate WE know that. But there is no way to get that message thru to the powers that be! They must sit around telling each other how good they have been to be in the black at the end of the season.

[mccg 1,528]

Looks happy in da shirt...

TRANSFERS: STAGE IS SET FOR CHELSEA TO MAKE MIDFIELD SIGNING – BUT THERE’S A PROBLEM

https://www.talkchelsea.net/transfers/chelsea-target-barella-has-reservations-but-cagliaris-president-doesnt/

[Johnnyeye 7,501]

whats the situation on this transfer? its on or not? what about paredes?