closed Watford 4-1 Chelsea

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Watched it again and a lot was down to shit refereeing as well. Two definite free kicks should have been awarded to us which led to two of their goals seconds afterwards. Bakayoko shouldn't have even had a yellow let alone two -Mike Dean has sent off more Premier Lge players than any other referee. So my summary was, yes, underperforming players, not helped by an abysmal refereeing performance and foaming mouth journalists.

[Special Juan 28,141]

6 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Watched it again and a lot was down to shit refereeing as well. Two definite free kicks should have been awarded to us which led to two of their goals seconds afterwards. Bakayoko shouldn't have even had a yellow let alone two -Mike Dean has sent off more Premier Lge players than any other referee. So my summary was, yes, underperforming players, not helped by an abysmal refereeing performance and foaming mouth journalists.

We couldn't handle their pressing because the amount of uncomfortable players on the ball we have is scary. As for the referee, he isn't any different to others refs in this league, they are all piss poor now, they can't even get the basics right, and not only that you had a game at 4:30pm on Sunday at Anfield where the ref spoke to his official and said "I don't know" so he guessed and gave a penalty, he actually asked for VAR that wasn't there

We have serious, serious problems at this club right now.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

105 million on Drinkwater, Bakayoko and Zappacosta. Let that sink in. 

For me there in lies the biggest problem. Conte has made blunders for sure but you don't spend more than a 100m in a window and only go backwards in terms of quality of players. I was fine with Matic leaving the club but to replace him with Drinkwater and Bakayoko was a farce and I have been saying this from day one. Seriously the guy who put forward the signings of both of them needs a good whipping.

[Special Juan 28,141]

In all of this, and I'm a football fan no matter what level it's played at, and as bad as we were last night, Watford were tremendous. The fucking energy levels they played at for 90 minutes was superb, something we aren't doing. Yeah, they will probably get beat by Stoke, Swansea or whoever in the coming weeks but it really did show our lack of aggression and fight. The panic in the team and on the ball was incredibly evident, which leads me to pointing out, there are players hiding in this team, no guts or spine to step up like JT, Lamps and Drogba did, nobody to get them by the scruff of the fucking neck and say "Wake the fuck up" The closest thing to a leader is Azpilicueta, the closes things to footballers are Hazard and Kante.

My son asked me this morning why we can't play like City, my answer simple, the fat of the players we have are levels and levels below what City have, in fact a huge gulf, not even close. We have Pedro, they have Sterling, we have Morata they have Aguero, they have Mendy we have Alonso, they have Walker we have Moses, they have Stones(and he isn't that good) but we have Cahill...The list goes on and on, and the gulf in class reflects exactly on the PL table, I mean even Liverpool have turned things around and have some unbelievable players.

When a dog has a shit it tries to kick grass over it, it doesn't cover it, it just merely masks it, the truth being it's still a load of dog shit and that's what has happened with this squad. We try to mask holes in the squad with stop gaps and infills, cheap versions of the real thing but sooner or later we actually realize they players are middle of the road dog shit.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

11 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

we have are levels and levels below what City have, in fact a huge gulf, not even close.

They have unlimited finances we don't. They got a new stadium that was gift wrapped to them by Manchester council. Take away the money and Man City would be fuck all 20 years ago Stockport were in a higher division than them. No point comparing us to anyone else we are Chelsea and have a history of imploding. I can't think of any team who are champions and in the top four and still get thrashed by Bournemouth and Watford. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

2 hours ago, Mana said:

I was happy Bakabambi has been sent off

I find that statement very hard to equate with being a Chelsea fan

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

7 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

They have unlimited finances we don't. They got a new stadium that was gift wrapped to them by Manchester council. Take away the money and Man City would be fuck all 20 years ago Stockport were in a higher division than them. No point comparing us to anyone else we are Chelsea and have a history of imploding. I can't think of any team who are champions and in the top four and still get thrashed by Bournemouth and Watford. 

Yup any team owned by a country or has 'royal' patronage like Madrid or PSG is going to be ahead of the pack

Chelsea imploding -we got our proper Chels back last couple of games

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

So...you'd rather have him on then? Even when he has gifted Watford chances to score 4 times under no pressure?

I don't think many Chelsea fans ever, ever,  applaud one of our own getting sent off

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

That's because we never had a player that is bad as Bakabambi.

Mate we've had worse, believe me

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

I usually don't wish players to be sent off, but this was an exception.

That's mental -basically wanting us to lose

[Duppy Conqueror 1,537]

Just now, Mana said:

Like...? And even if you can name 1 or 2 players in the Roman era, that's barely a handful.

Nonetheless, Bakabambi was gifting Watford chances. We were in deep danger. And Conte just stands there, doing nothing. Things wasn't going to get better, it was going worse. I usually don't wish players to be sent off, but this was an exception.

 

you said we never had a player as bad as him but now switched it to in the Roman era..haha..you missed out 98 years of our history. 

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

WTF. He was GIFTING Watford chances! If Watford were City, we would be 3-0 down already. Please.

When he was off, while Watford continued to press us, they were no longer gifted.

I know emotions run high, and on TC some people seem to try to outdo each other with how outraged they are. But wishing one of our players sent off  ? -well I think you just need to think that through for a minute

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

That's because pre-Roman era we weren't competing for leagues or even a top European side. 

We always were competing for leagues - and European Cup Winners Cup Winners 1971, European Super Cup Winners 1998 

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

1 minute ago, Mana said:

Yes. I'm wishing him off to save our embarrassment. Because Conte wasn't going to do it. I think you have forgotten how dreadful he was yesterday for you to stand there and WANT HIM TO CONTINUE GIFTING WATFORD.

He was no worse than some other contenders. Really think you need to consider wishing one of our players to be sent off 

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

Hmmmm, now I'm sure you haven't watched the game yesterday.

Watched it twice now. Think youre sidestepping from your original post that you wanted one of ours sent off. 

If that's what you wanted, then to me that is ridiculous. But we'll leave it there.

[Duppy Conqueror 1,537]

13 minutes ago, Mana said:

That's because pre-Roman era we weren't competing for leagues or even a top European side. 

we won the league title (aswell as lower tier titles) and had a few runs at more.won several European trophies before Roman was here..but never is still never.  

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

No, no. I'm not sidestepping anything. I told you why I want him off. Then you go on and said he is no worse than the others. Go on, tell me who is equal or worse than Bakabambi yesterday. And before you go and say Cahill, he was woeful too but at least he wasn't gifting the ball to Watford with no pressure on the ball.

Regardless of how many underperformed -Cahill, Luiz, even Dave - the point I take issue with is you, a chelsea fan, wishing one of ours to be sent off, and down to 10 men. You still stand by that then ??

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

The funny thing is, if we played worse after Baka's sending off then you may have a case. But we actually played better with 10 men. What does that say to you??

I may have a case for not wishing one of our players sent off ? Well cheers for that. I would never, ever wish one of our players sent off, but you clearly do.

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

Yep. And I see nothing wrong with that, especially when Bakabambi was Watford's 12th man.

Well I am sorry but I see plenty wrong, seriously wrong, in wishing one of ours to be sent off

[Fulham Broadway 17,315]

Just now, Mana said:

You know what? Enough of me explaining. It's your turn. Explain to me why wishing for Bakabambi to get sent off yesterday was wrong.

You really need that explained to you ? When one team loses a player they are at a numerical disadvantage- I know you say he was watfords 12th man but you know, that you, are exaggerating about that.

Apart from that I think you would be hard pressed to find any fan, anywhere, of any team in the World that wishes one of their players sent off