Callum Hudson-Odoi

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5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Doubt me, bookmark and watch as they are sold.

Market valuations that translate into real sale prices are not subjective, there is an easily quantifiable record to track.

 

Perhaps.. some will, some won't. Either you make money off of it, perhaps as a scout, in which case you wouldn't be wasting time posting here (nor sharing your knowledge base), or you merely have an opinion like everyone else here.  

Interesting... now you use valuation as a variable... but when talking about Alonso and Willian, whatever they are sold for, is irrelevant because they are "shite."  

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19 minutes ago, Robchels said:

I'm not sure what this means... if that is indeed my squad, then  I'd put money on them against your random list or youngsters (who haven't done nothing yet) any day of the week and twice on sundays. I'd suggest looking into stats regarding the number of youngsters starting in top clubs' senior squads and their success rate... It suggests one must be very careful in employing too many youngsters. 

Hint: the teams playing the CL final are usually NOT on the younger side.  

As if our current back 4 could handle those wingers and CF's NOW, let alone as those teens and 20 year olds become prime age peak players (some already are, hello Mr Mbappe, Mr Cutrone, Mr Sancho, Mr Vinicius, Mr Aouar, Mr Sarr, Mr Jovic, Mr Alexander-Arnold, Mr Sessegnon, Mr Felix, (now, let alone 2, 3 years down the road, and I will even stop the age  lock for our back 4) have fun with Alonso, Jorginho, a rapidly leggy Azpi, and Luiz)

 Same goes for that defence. Have you even seen many of them play?

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12 minutes ago, Vesper said:

As if our current back 4 could handle those wingers and CF's NOW, let alone as those teens and 20 year olds become prime age peak players (some already are, hello Mr Mbappe, Mr Cutrone, Mr Sancho, Mr Vinicius, Mr Aouar, Mr Sarr, Mr Jovic, Mr Alexander-Arnold, Mr Sessegnon, Mr Felix, (now, let alone 2, 3 years down the road, and I will even stop the age  lock for our back 4) have fun with Alonso, Jorginho, a rapidly leggy Azpi, and Luiz)

 Same goes for that defence. Have you even seen many of them play?

I don't know which CL finals you watch, but the ones I do have a lot 30s who seem to handle all wingers just fine.

Out of the list, Mbappe is the only one at prime... Again, the only player in this list dominating in CL is Mbappe, the others have not faced the the strongest opposition, which is always in CL. How can you list those other players along with Mbappe, who won a freaking World Cup as the MoTM is beyond me.

My VERY personal opinion is that Bundesliga is pretty much unwatchable for the most part. Disorganized, open, and pretty poor technique esp in the mid tier teams. However, I do know there are good players there, and I'm sure you've spotted some of them. But only when they move to a top club, probably at CL, they will be truly tested. That's how it works: bigger club, bigger wages, and more pressure. Some will make it others won't. Maybe you haven't seen enough promising players fail, but I have... not pretty.

And by disorganized, I say players enjoy too much time on the ball, which is not the case in strongest leagues. See Bakayoko for example.

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23 minutes ago, Robchels said:

Perhaps.. some will, some won't. Either you make money off of it, perhaps as a scout, in which case you wouldn't be wasting time posting here (nor sharing your knowledge base), or you merely have an opinion like everyone else here.  

Interesting... now you use valuation as a variable... but when talking about Alonso and Willian, whatever they are sold for, is irrelevant because they are "shite."  

I very much care about what they are sold for, not just that they are off they team, we turned down bloody £110m in hard offers for those two prats last summer. CRIMINAL IMHO.

I never said said just low-ball sell them or any other player (except Drinkwater as we are paying that donkey an insane £120K per week, so will have to eat a big chunk on either the transfer fee or pay part of his wages to get him moved out).

You ave me confused with someone else. I am all about the quid.

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1 minute ago, Robchels said:

I don't know which CL finals you watch, but the ones I do have a lot 30s who seem to handle all wingers just fine.

 

I am not talking about CL finals, that is a strawman, I was positing that team versus our current squad.

Seeing as you are bringing it up, and seeing as that team is so young, there is a more than decent chance, if most develop out to anywhere near their potential, that in a few years it could quite possibly go deep deep into the CL, if not win it outright.

Especially with a few tweaks as the years went by.

Like I said, bookmark it. I fully stand by my prediction in terms of sale prices when they happen. Pulisic just went for almost £60m. Prorated over the 25 man squad there is your £1.5bn right there.

And Mbappe, when sold will go for at least £275m or so, probably £300m. Add in Felix and de Light and from just those 4 players, you are looking at around £550m plus, so already over a third of the way there, and still 21 players left to be sold. You wll only have to average £45m (basically what we are asking for CHO, who wouldn't even make that squad) per head to hit £1.5bn.

Of the 21 left

you are talking about

Sancho

Vinícius Júnior 

Gianluigi Donnarumma 

Trent Alexander-Arnold 

Ryan Sessegnon

Houssem Aouar 

Luka Jovic

those alone would/will sell for around £475 to £500m.

take the lower number, 475m add it to the 550m above

£1.025bn

 

and still 14 players to sell

you are now down to an average of only £34m per player needed

try to buy Declan Rice for £34m. West Ham will laugh in your face.

Same for Ibrahima Konaté from RB Leipzig (they want 100m euros for his CB partner Dayot Upamecano)

Try to buy Achraf Hakimi from Real for that. LOLOL

or (provided he progresses as I think he will), Nicolò Zaniolo at Roma

Like I said, bookmark.

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

I am not talking about CL finals, that is a strawman, I was positing that team versus our current squad.

Seeing as you are bringing it up, and seeing as that team is so young, there is a more than decent chance, if most develop out to anywhere near their potential, that in a few years it could quite possibly go deep deep into the CL, if not win it outright.

Especially with a few tweaks as the years went by.

Like I said, bookmark it. I fully stand by my prediction in terms of sale prices when they happen. Pulisic just went for almost £60m. Prorated over the 25 man squad there is your £1.5bn right there.

And Mbappe, when sold will go for at least £275m or so, probably £300m. Add in Felix and de Light and from just those 4 players, you are looking at around £550m plus, so already over a third of the way there, and still 21 players left to be sold. You wll only have to average £45m (basically what we are asking for CHO, who wouldn't even make that squad) per head to hit £1.5bn.

Of the 21 left

you are talking about

Sancho

Vinícius Júnior 

Gianluigi Donnarumma 

Trent Alexander-Arnold 

Ryan Sessegnon

Houssem Aouar 

Luka Jovic

those alone would/will sell for around £475 to £500m.

take the lower number, 475m add it to the 550m above

£1.025bn

 

and still 14 players to sell

you are now down to an average of only £34m per player needed

try to buy Declan Rice for £34m. West Ham will laugh in your face.

Same for Ibrahima Konaté from RB Leipzig (they want 100m euros for his CB partner Dayot Upamecano)

Try to buy Achraf Hakimi from Real for that. LOLOL

or (provided he progresses as I think he will), Nicolò Zaniolo at Roma

Like I said, bookmark.

Thanks, but no thanks. 

I see that you enjoy this game.

the thing is when you are wrong, and I can guarantee that you will be wrong in some of your predictions (someone will breakdown either physically or mentally and won’t develop). And then neither you, nor I, will care one bit... unless we have money  in it.

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SEVENTY-FOUR MINUTES played in EPL all season!!!

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On 15/02/2019 at 6:24 PM, Jason said:

 

 

Matthijs De Ligt - 3,048 minutes
Kai Havertz - 2,320
Gianluigi Donnarumma - 2,250
Evan N'Dicka - 2,207
Jadon Sancho - 1,771
Vinicus Jr - 1,729
Ryan Sessegnon - 1,656
Diego Lainez - 1,437
Nicolo Zaniolo - 1,308
Justin Kluivert - 1,194
HUDSON-ODOI - 1,064

Zola, just like Sarri, is talking BS!

and that 1064 minutes is utterly bogus, as over 40% comes from the reserves

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Report: Chelsea Management Unhappy With Sarri’s Handling of Hudson-Odoi

http://chelseafconline.com/2019/02/report-chelsea-management-unhappy-with-sarris-handling-of-hudson-odoi/

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Soon as the window closed I knew what little minutes he got were done. 

 

We played him the bare minimum to get Bayern to back off. After that? He isnt rated any more than a Tomori.

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6 hours ago, mccg said:

Report: Chelsea Management Unhappy With Sarri’s Handling of Hudson-Odoi

http://chelseafconline.com/2019/02/report-chelsea-management-unhappy-with-sarris-handling-of-hudson-odoi/

Bullshit! If they cared enough about youth development that would have been in the managers contract... not hearsay...

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And this is why he wanted to leave! 

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On 2/16/2019 at 5:24 PM, Robchels said:

Bullshit! If they cared enough about youth development that would have been in the managers contract... not hearsay...

People pretending Cahill is some influential figure and now people pretending this club cares about youth. 

Honestly. 

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2-0 down and Sarri brings on a defender for a defender?! What was the talk about Sarri considering CHO on the same level as Pedro/Willian?!