robsblubot 3,595 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 Right and I will make that very popular point again. I think it is risky to play him without a contract. And that’s for 2 reasons: 1. Until Jan, he cannot sign with another club, so picking up an injury until then could be disastrous to his career regardless of any insurance. So, I’m not sure we can expect 100% from him until then. And after that, his head will be elsewhere. And as a reminder, he is coming from a serious injury. 2. Given a player in this situation, why should we develop him at such a young age and inconsistency, just to lose him before he will become the final product? Give minutes to someone else. in short, he must sign to play. I truly hope he does, even with the reported figures, but only then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 I think Lampard May share that same viewpoint. If his heart isn’t set here, I don’t think he’ll play him. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11799423/callum-hudson-odoi-hoping-for-chelsea-return-after-international-break CHO hopes to be back after the international break. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 13 minutes ago, Jason said: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11799423/callum-hudson-odoi-hoping-for-chelsea-return-after-international-break CHO hopes to be back after the international break. He needs to sign that damn contract or I would not risk playing him. IF he refuses to renew, sell his arse this winter. No sense to risk damaging him and then we get fuckall in a sale. At this point I am of the belief that his twat brother is in total collusion with Bayern. Fernando and Atomiswave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 31 minutes ago, Vesper said: He needs to sign that damn contract or I would not risk playing him. IF he refuses to renew, sell his arse this winter. No sense to risk damaging him and then we get fuckall in a sale. At this point I am of the belief that his twat brother is in total collusion with Bayern. I feel the opposite, even if he has his mind set on leaving we need him this season. He put in some strong performances around the period he handed in a transfer request last time so I'm not too worried about him sulking his way through the season. Pulisic needs to be rotated as he unsurprisingly needs time to settle, Callum will be needed for the short term regardless of where his future lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Tomo said: I feel the opposite, even if he has his mind set on leaving we need him this season. He put in some strong performances around the period he handed in a transfer request last time so I'm not too worried about him sulking his way through the season. Pulisic needs to be rotated as he unsurprisingly needs time to settle, Callum will be needed for the short term regardless of where his future lies. I hate an 18yo bullying the club that made him who he is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, Vesper said: I hate an 18yo bullying the club that made him who he is In a fair world, Sarri would have given him a fair chance at the BEGINNING of the season because he was brilliant when he played pre season and he also was our best player against City in Super Cup. If he had gotten that chance, he would have signed the contract immediately. But Sarri did not rate him back then and he does not rate youth that much, so CHO got frustrated. That is obvoiusly a normal reaction when you perform that well and the coach does not give you a fair chance. Happened to KDB (he even played two PL matches before Mou fucked him up). It is Sarri´s fault. He would also be a lot cheaper if he signed at the beginning of last season Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 I think he will sign once he has gamed a couple of matches, the likes of Lamps Mount Abra Luftes will convince him its the right move and THE place to ignite something very good. If not then get rid to Bayern, we want him but cant be seen jailed by an 18 year boy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 7 minutes ago, killer1257 said: In a fair world, Sarri would have given him a fair chance at the BEGINNING of the season because he was brilliant when he played pre season and he also was our best player against City in Super Cup. If he had gotten that chance, he would have signed the contract immediately. But Sarri did not rate him back then and he does not rate youth that much, so CHO got frustrated. That is obvoiusly a normal reaction when you perform that well and the coach does not give you a fair chance. Happened to KDB (he even played two PL matches before Mou fucked him up). It is Sarri´s fault. He would also be a lot cheaper if he signed at the beginning of last season That’s speculation. The evidence we have is that the playing time mattered less than folks here make it out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 Just now, Robchels said: That’s speculation. The evidence we have is that the playing time mattered less than folks here make it out to be. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/26/chelsea-callum-hudson-odoi-transfer-request-bayern-munich-morata " The England junior international, who won the under-17s World Cup two years ago, has been frustrated by a perceived lack of opportunities under Maurizio Sarri and had made clear he had no interest in signing new terms at Stamford Bridge despite suggestions the club might be willing to offer him as much as £80,000-a-week to extend his stay. Instead, Hudson-Odoi believes he will have more opportunities to play senior football at Bayern, having seen the impact Jadon Sancho and Reiss Nelson have made in the Bundesliga, with Borussia Dortmund and Hoffenheim respectively, this term. " https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47017908 "Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi has handed in a transfer request as he seeks a move away from Stamford Bridge in order to get more playing time. The 18-year-old is yet to start a Premier League game at Chelsea and has been the subject of a £35m bid from Bayern Munich. Chelsea have been in talks with Hudson-Odoi, who has 18 months left on his contract, and want him to stay. But he has only made five Chelsea starts and 14 appearances overall. There have been reports Hudson-Odoi has been offered a new deal worth up to £80,000 a week, but playing time is understood to be the most important issue for the teenager, who has been at the club since he was eight." CHO played only 61 minutes in PL before he handed his transfer request. So he wanted to leave because of lack in game time. I don´´t know what evidence you have, if you are more credible than the guardian or other sources, but that is my understanding of the situation. Sarri messed up like he did with many things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 24 minutes ago, killer1257 said: In a fair world, Sarri would have given him a fair chance at the BEGINNING of the season because he was brilliant when he played pre season and he also was our best player against City in Super Cup. If he had gotten that chance, he would have signed the contract immediately. Would he have though? It would be pretty silly to base your whole future on whether you're selected for EL group games aged 17. robsblubot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 1, 2019 Share Posted September 1, 2019 2 hours ago, killer1257 said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jan/26/chelsea-callum-hudson-odoi-transfer-request-bayern-munich-morata " The England junior international, who won the under-17s World Cup two years ago, has been frustrated by a perceived lack of opportunities under Maurizio Sarri and had made clear he had no interest in signing new terms at Stamford Bridge despite suggestions the club might be willing to offer him as much as £80,000-a-week to extend his stay. Instead, Hudson-Odoi believes he will have more opportunities to play senior football at Bayern, having seen the impact Jadon Sancho and Reiss Nelson have made in the Bundesliga, with Borussia Dortmund and Hoffenheim respectively, this term. " https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47017908 "Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi has handed in a transfer request as he seeks a move away from Stamford Bridge in order to get more playing time. The 18-year-old is yet to start a Premier League game at Chelsea and has been the subject of a £35m bid from Bayern Munich. Chelsea have been in talks with Hudson-Odoi, who has 18 months left on his contract, and want him to stay. But he has only made five Chelsea starts and 14 appearances overall. There have been reports Hudson-Odoi has been offered a new deal worth up to £80,000 a week, but playing time is understood to be the most important issue for the teenager, who has been at the club since he was eight." CHO played only 61 minutes in PL before he handed his transfer request. So he wanted to leave because of lack in game time. I don´´t know what evidence you have, if you are more credible than the guardian or other sources, but that is my understanding of the situation. Sarri messed up like he did with many things Reckon you put too much trust in external communications. Player and agent will never write something that will put them at odds with the supporters. we don’t know what was going on behind the scenes. Perhaps the club was telling him, "sign a new deal and you will get playing time." Who knows? Again the problem is that by then, with Bayern interest, the club had little leverage because he no longer needed to play to attract buyers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 5, 2019 Share Posted September 5, 2019 Chelsea forward Callum Hudson-Odoi, 18, is ready to commit to his long-term future with the club. (Football.london) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vesper 30,185 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 now we have Victimpool players tapping CHO up wtf BREWSTER PLEADS WITH HUDSON-ODOI TO JOIN LIVERPOOL – WOULD HE START? https://readliverpoolfc.com/2019/09/07/brewster-pleads-with-hudson-odoi-to-join-liverpool-would-he-start/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 now we have Victimpool players tapping CHO up wtf BREWSTER PLEADS WITH HUDSON-ODOI TO JOIN LIVERPOOL – WOULD HE START? https://readliverpoolfc.com/2019/09/07/brewster-pleads-with-hudson-odoi-to-join-liverpool-would-he-start/ Doesn't need to look further than Solanke. That worked out great, didn't it. [emoji1] Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 hours ago, Vesper said: now we have Victimpool players tapping CHO up wtf BREWSTER PLEADS WITH HUDSON-ODOI TO JOIN LIVERPOOL – WOULD HE START? https://readliverpoolfc.com/2019/09/07/brewster-pleads-with-hudson-odoi-to-join-liverpool-would-he-start/ Would be stupid move from CHO he would get less game time at Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 2:43 PM, the wes said: Would be stupid move from CHO he would get less game time at Liverpool Notice that all mentions of playing time being a factor, likely just PR from agent, are 6mo+ old including the quotes posted above. Would be naive to not consider the possibility he may sign with a rival in Jan. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,185 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Robchels said: Notice that all mentions of playing time being a factor, likely just PR from agent, are 6mo+ old including the quotes posted above. Would be naive to not consider the possibility he may sign with a rival in Jan. If he doesnt renew soon he is going to Bayern. His cuntish brother has played us HARD. robsblubot and the wes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vesper said: If he doesnt renew soon he is going to Bayern. His cuntish brother has played us HARD. You are prob right. Sad when losing a promising youngster to Bayern isn’t the worst-case scenario. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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