Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 People forget the pro-active decisions and demands of players are by and large by their agents for financial gain With Hudson-Odoi it’s naïve if he or anyone thinks he’d go and play regularly for a Bayern team that still consistently plays proper old timers like Ribéry and Robben over other younger options. Getting rid of two experienced internationals in order to make sure a kid who’s just turned 18 plays every single match for a club with CL aspirations, would be lunacy. No top club would ever do such a thing unless the kid in question was Messi and Hudson-Odoi is not Messi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kc_blue 265 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Quote 41 minutes ago, lucio said: if so then it's weak from sarri. Better to have players disgruntled on the bench than undeservedly starting and costing us points I think we've seen firsthand how disgruntled players on the bench can lead to much worse malignancies in the background. I do agree though that Willian playing as much as he has for as long as he has this season kind seems a bit strange to me. In my view he's the anti-Sarri winger. This seems counterintuitive when you just look at his abilities though and I can understand why Sarri wanted to keep him and thought he could be something special in his system. Technically and physically Willian seems to have everything to be a great producer in Sarri's system. The only problem is it seems that Willian just mentally can't play the way Sarri wants in that position, fast, quick passing, off the ball movement. I think he's just not fast enough recognizing others movements and not decisive enough when one on one. I think Sarri thought he could develop Willian into the right fit for his system and tried to give him every opportunity to make it work. Personally I think he tried to make it work far to long but I can understand why he made the effort. We'll see what happens now but I hope Sarri has got to a point of being comfortable with CHO as he did with RLC and we'll see more of CHO as the season progresses beyond just the current injury crisis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costa19 858 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 Or maybe Willian are playing because Sarri’s been in charge for about 6 months and trying to radically change the way Chelsea plays. You need some stability* to do that. Can’t change everything at once. Defensive *stability (Willian) might be needed during the transformation. And yes, i think CHO should have had more minutes. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,056 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 I really hope Sarri backs up his words with actions in the coming weeks. CHO just wants to play, so his future lies in Sarri's hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 The best thing that can happen is he tears Spurs a new arsehole tomorrow night and he becomes undroppable, forcing both Willian and Pedro out of the equation. DDA and kellzfresh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,142 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said: People forget the pro-active decisions and demands of players are by and large by their agents for financial gain With Hudson-Odoi it’s naïve if he or anyone thinks he’d go and play regularly for a Bayern team that still consistently plays proper old timers like Ribéry and Robben over other younger options. Getting rid of two experienced internationals in order to make sure a kid who’s just turned 18 plays every single match for a club with CL aspirations, would be lunacy. No top club would ever do such a thing unless the kid in question was Messi and Hudson-Odoi is not Messi. Although he is not going to walk into their team and I don't t think he expects to, it is more that he probably feels he will get more chances to play on merit if he plays well. Robben will not be there next season. Ribery is injury-prone. Muller can play there but it is not where he is best at and Bayern have mainly played him as a SS/AM this season. He has started on the wing only a small number of times. Gnabry, a talented player who was in a similar predicament at Arsenal as he could not get much starts is only 23 and has started 10 league games this season. Coman has started 6 games and struggled with injuries also. A lot of people would arguably say that CHO is better than Gnabry right now. If Gnabry can start that many games for Bayern, then CHO certainly will play a lot of games too. It feels like now with CHO, we are suddenly hyping him up and giving him chances because another European giant is showing serious levels of interest. When there was minimal interest earlier in the season, he could not even get on the bench in the PL games. Could not start a Europa League game and could not even start a bloody Carabao Cup game. I remember we played Derby and won 3-2, Sarri played Willian and RLC as wingers and CHO was an unused sub. Where was the signs of faith him in them? CHO is probably thinking if he signs on, he could easily go in the same direction as other Chelsea academy prospects who are not given much chances and then end up leaving. I just wonder if, he himself feels the club is using him, just to sign a new contract. I genuinely think he will go to Bayern. He will play, they have shown a huge willingness to get him and there is defo imo a clearer path to the first 11 than here and a top team. I think he can make that LW a position of his own if he goes over there, while even on merit, this season he has been given minimal chances. I could defo see why he wants to leave Bayern. Sarri has shown faith in him a little too late. Fulham Broadway and LAM09 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulham Broadway 17,317 Posted January 7, 2019 Share Posted January 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Stats said: Although he is not going to walk into their team and I don't t think he expects to, it is more that he probably feels he will get more chances to play on merit if he plays well. Robben will not be there next season. Ribery is injury-prone. Muller can play there but it is not where he is best at and Bayern have mainly played him as a SS/AM this season. He has started on the wing only a small number of times. Gnabry, a talented player who was in a similar predicament at Arsenal as he could not get much starts is only 23 and has started 10 league games this season. Coman has started 6 games and struggled with injuries also. A lot of people would arguably say that CHO is better than Gnabry right now. If Gnabry can start that many games for Bayern, then CHO certainly will play a lot of games too. It feels like now with CHO, we are suddenly hyping him up and giving him chances because another European giant is showing serious levels of interest. When there was minimal interest earlier in the season, he could not even get on the bench in the PL games. Could not start a Europa League game and could not even start a bloody Carabao Cup game. I remember we played Derby and won 3-2, Sarri played Willian and RLC as wingers and CHO was an unused sub. Where was the signs of faith him in them? CHO is probably thinking if he signs on, he could easily go in the same direction as other Chelsea academy prospects who are not given much chances and then end up leaving. I just wonder if, he himself feels the club is using him, just to sign a new contract. I genuinely think he will go to Bayern. He will play, they have shown a huge willingness to get him and there is defo imo a clearer path to the first 11 than here and a top team. I think he can make that LW a position of his own if he goes over there, while even on merit, this season he has been given minimal chances. I could defo see why he wants to leave Bayern. Sarri has shown faith in him a little too late. I think with the current injuries there are opportunities for him that will put him in the spotlight, and against Sp*rs it will be a stern test. It also makes it easier for the board to decide whether to accept the 30m or whatever. Hope he does well (assuming he gets playing time tomorrow) either way it's a win win for his agent -who I think is Willian as of last week ! DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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the wes 7,212 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Bayern Munich are still awaiting a response on their latest bid for Chelsea winger Callum Hudson-Odoi, Sky Sports News understands. The Bundesliga champions are understood to have offered more than £30million for the England U21 international, who has also attracted interest from RB Leipzig. Hudson-Odoi's preferred destination is Bayern, however, we have been told not to rule out him signing a new contract at Chelsea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 This is going to get very ugly. kc_blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Too late for chelaea to recognise his abilities...Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk 11Drogba 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 You watch....no place in the match day squad tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Sky Sports News understands Hudson-Odoi will not take up Chelsea's latest contract offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just take the offer the kid is not interested in staying at Chelsea sell him now or his value will drop in the summer cause he will be on his last year of his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 I bet we accept this offer. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,571 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Hudson-Odoi sees his future at Bayern. (via @SkyKaveh)#CFC #FCBayernSent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk the wes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Special Juan 28,141 Posted January 8, 2019 Popular Post! Share Posted January 8, 2019 Talking of sales and out goings over the years, this, as young as he is, will be the hardest of the lot to take. The amount of bids they have made must lead you to think the player and his agent want this, for them to keep coming back time and time again. Johnnyeye, xPetrCechx, 11Drogba and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzy_Vance 454 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 It’s done. He’s gone. F*** Sarri and f*** the board. Disgraceful. This shit is unforgiveable. Bet we extend Willian’s contract for another five years. DDA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the wes 7,212 Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Just now, Dazzy_Vance said: It’s done. He’s gone. F*** Sarri and f*** the board. Disgraceful. This shit is unforgiveable. Bet we extend Willian’s contract for another five years. Nobody wanted this but if the kid doesn't want to sign a new deal there's no point letting his contract run done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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