🇫🇷 Olivier Giroud

[bushman 2,043]

Of course, they're not at a level suitable for a club like ours. But they are good signings for a club like Arsenal, and as such, they've done well to sign them for the prices quoted/the timing of the deals, which I consider good business.

Of course I care about finances, as should you, as should any fan. We all love Roman spending big and attracting a calibre of player that Arsenal can only dream of, but football is a business these days, and in order to be a successful business, your books have to be in order. We're able to sign players of Hazard's calibre because of the huge cash injection that comes with CL football, compare that to the players we were linked with when we looked like only having Europa League football this coming season (Willian etc).

Oh and by the way, if you truly do want Van der Wiel at Chelsea, I suggest you be careful what you wish for...

What are you talking about ?

Roman does not care about FFP. If you do not see it, then we do not have anything to about here.

Perhaps, you should root for other club & not for high rollers of Chelsea.

See you. I am watching Fernando now.

[Slam Dunk 1,442]

What are you talking about ?

Roman does not care about FFP. If you do not see it, then we do not have anything to about here.

Perhaps, you should root for other club & not for high rollers of Chelsea.

See you. I am watching Fernando now.

Are you that ignorant to think that the owner of one of Europe's biggest clubs is unaware of UEFA club rulings?

Thanks for the advice, but I think i'll stick to supporting my boyhood club, even if it does mean being grouped in with the likes of you.

[bushman 2,043]

Are you that ignorant to think that the owner of one of Europe's biggest clubs is unaware of UEFA club rulings?

Thanks for the advice, but I think i'll stick to supporting my boyhood club, even if it does mean being grouped in with the likes of you.

You support whoever you want. I do not care much.

Of course he is aware of some ruling you dimwit, but he most likely have ways to avoid it.

[KonohasOrangeFlash 2,607]

Arsenal will not challenge for the title. They'll be around 3rd place, me thinks. They're getting better with players like Podolski and Giroud but they are not world beaters...

[Zone 290]

I'm guessing Robin's not extending his contract then. For the money that Arsenal will get for him, which is probably around 25 mill, they have done good business getting two great players.

If M'villa signs plus a proper defender I think they'll be just fine without V. Persie.

[silviupastean 135]

I'm guessing Robin's not extending his contract then. For the money that Arsenal will get for him, which is probably around 25 mill, they have done good business getting two great players.

If M'villa signs plus a proper defender I think they'll be just fine without V. Persie.

probably not extending, but i think he will remain at arsenal for another year and go on a bosman in 2013

[BlueLion. 21,491]

Oh god

The fact is that the Arsenal recruitment is rather very heterogeneous so far. Podolsky is awfully overrated, he's a mediocre player. Giroud is a very good pick. The main thing they lacked was variation in their play, Wenger seems to want to add different players for a different game plan not based exclusively on ball possession around the box anymore

Correct. He tried that with Chamakh but it was a failed experiment (albeit not too much of a failure - he came on a free, didn't he?!). Arsene is looking for another string to his bow, and he's certainly got that in Podolski and Giroud.

[English Freak 456]

Correct. He tried that with Chamakh but it was a failed experiment (albeit not too much of a failure - he came on a free, didn't he?!). Arsene is looking for another string to his bow, and he's certainly got that in Podolski and Giroud.

Shouldn't this thread be closed/locked now? I mean Giroud is joining Arsenal.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

When I see confirmation, I'll close it.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Correct. He tried that with Chamakh but it was a failed experiment (albeit not too much of a failure - he came on a free, didn't he?!). Arsene is looking for another string to his bow, and he's certainly got that in Podolski and Giroud.

I never thought Chamakh was a failure, I seem to remember that he was doing OK and scoring till RVP came back from injury and he was completely dropped by Wenger, never gave him a chance since.

I think the Podolski signing is much more likely to turn into a total waste of money for Arsenal. He only plays well when surrounded by the likes of Ozil, Sweinstiger, Klose...etc. At Koln, he's average at best.

Giroud, on the other hand, I think will prove to be an important signing for the gunners, though they will still be a weakened side without RVP.

[Spike 12,049]

Podolski's best season came eight years ago in the 2.Budesliga. He failed at Bayern Munich only to return to Koln, I feel he will fail at Arsenal to return to Koln. I don't want him to fail, I quite like him as a player but any Gooner expecting die Mannschaft Podolski will be greatly disappointed.

[bushman 2,043]

Wigan is not prepared to sell Moses under 8m, even asking 10m.

For that price, what use will Chelsea have to see him sitting on the bench ?

[English Freak 456]

Wigan is not prepared to sell Moses under 8m, even asking 10m.

For that price, what use will Chelsea have to see him sitting on the bench ?

Posting about Moses on the Giroud page?

Wrong transfer talk page.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Podolski's best season came eight years ago in the 2.Budesliga. He failed at Bayern Munich only to return to Koln, I feel he will fail at Arsenal to return to Koln. I don't want him to fail, I quite like him as a player but any Gooner expecting die Mannschaft Podolski will be greatly disappointed.

Still a great buy for the price of £11M. He's not a star, but he could be a good player for Arsenal (and I think he'll fit into their system well). Obviously not an Arsenal supporter, but you can't help but admire the way they do their transfers. You look at their starting XI from last season and they were almost all ridiculous value (RVP- £2.75, Song £1M, Walcott £5-12M depending on performance, etc....) Even someone like Gervinho who was a bust last season cost millions less than Lukaku did for us. It's just so simple. They look around for players who are good value and make an offer for them if what the club wants is more than they value the player, they move on to someone else. It shows that you don't have to splash massive amounts of cash around to compete. I suppose we looked for value with Marin, but generally our transfer policy is backwards. It's just identifying the player RA is obsessed with regardless of how they'll fit into the team and then just spending how ever much it takes to get them. It's not about being cheap, it's about value.

[Spike 12,049]

Still a great buy for the price of £11M. He's not a star, but he could be a good player for Arsenal (and I think he'll fit into their system well). Obviously not an Arsenal supporter, but you can't help but admire the way they do their transfers. You look at their starting XI from last season and they were almost all ridiculous value (RVP- £2.75, Song £1M, Walcott £5-12M depending on performance, etc....) Even someone like Gervinho who was a bust last season cost millions less than Lukaku did for us. It's just so simple. They look around for players who are good value and make an offer for them if what the club wants is more than they value the player, they move on to someone else. It shows that you don't have to splash massive amounts of cash around to compete. I suppose we looked for value with Marin, but generally our transfer policy is backwards. It's just identifying the player RA is obsessed with regardless of how they'll fit into the team and then just spending how ever much it takes to get them. It's not about being cheap, it's about value.

Yeah well...Champions League Trophy.

[English Freak 456]

Still a great buy for the price of £11M. He's not a star, but he could be a good player for Arsenal (and I think he'll fit into their system well). Obviously not an Arsenal supporter, but you can't help but admire the way they do their transfers. You look at their starting XI from last season and they were almost all ridiculous value (RVP- £2.75, Song £1M, Walcott £5-12M depending on performance, etc....) Even someone like Gervinho who was a bust last season cost millions less than Lukaku did for us. It's just so simple. They look around for players who are good value and make an offer for them if what the club wants is more than they value the player, they move on to someone else. It shows that you don't have to splash massive amounts of cash around to compete. I suppose we looked for value with Marin, but generally our transfer policy is backwards. It's just identifying the player RA is obsessed with regardless of how they'll fit into the team and then just spending how ever much it takes to get them. It's not about being cheap, it's about value.

Yeh, you can't help but admire Wenger's faith in youth...even though he's been trophy-less for 7 seasons straight.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Yeah well...Champions League Trophy.

Of course. That was obviously tremendous, but I also care about building a sustainable model. If Chelsea went through that same route again 100 times, they'd probably would only win the CL a handful of times. I think the ideal set-up is like Arsenal except being able to spend 20-30M on an individual player if they really fit a need.

[TorontoChelsea 4,064]

Yeh, you can't help but admire Wenger's faith in youth...even though he's been trophy-less for 7 seasons straight.

For me, it's less about faith in youth than it is about consistently good signings. This is one of the big benefits of having a long-term manager who has influence over signings. They sign players they believe will fit into the system. This is why Chelsea need that long-term manager who can start to do that. You get better value on your buys and you can avoid huge mistakes.

[SeB 1,281]

Correct. He tried that with Chamakh but it was a failed experiment (albeit not too much of a failure - he came on a free, didn't he?!). Arsene is looking for another string to his bow, and he's certainly got that in Podolski and Giroud.

I never thought Chamakh was a failure, I seem to remember that he was doing OK and scoring till RVP came back from injury and he was completely dropped by Wenger, never gave him a chance since.

I think the Podolski signing is much more likely to turn into a total waste of money for Arsenal. He only plays well when surrounded by the likes of Ozil, Sweinstiger, Klose...etc. At Koln, he's average at best.

Giroud, on the other hand, I think will prove to be an important signing for the gunners, though they will still be a weakened side without RVP.

That's why Wenger wanted Baines or Downing (lol), he already wanted to change the style of play of his team by bringing variation. He expected crosses for those 2. Chamakh was mainly a failed experiment because he never played in 4-4-2 with RvP and because he has no goalscoring instinct, he'd pass back even when on the goalline into the goal. And he's far to kind, especially for a player playing back to goal, he hasn't any vice in his game. But he's an excellent mentality though

Podolski keeps his place with the NT thanks to his performances... with the NT. And he only scores goals in qualifiers against Moldavia & co. Never decisive in a big game. And all his play depends of his shoots from distance, even that he didn't managed for months with Germany, all his shots goes wide.

Giroud has the goalscorer instinct, I don't worry for him, if he follows his career plan he'll score a dozen goals the 1st season and 20+ the second season

[The Skipper 20,609]

You can admire Wenger's transfers, he buys good players yes, but most of them are just about good, not world class. The only player in the Arsenal team that would get into our team is RVP. At the end of the day, money talks, and tbh, we're quite well run as a club, getting closer and closer to breaking even every season.

Also, it's not having a long term manager that will make the club be run more effectively. It helps yes, but majority of it is down to the board. Gourlay et al seem to be doing a decent job ATM, I'm personally eager to see the latest financial figures.

Giroud and Podolski are both decent players but tell me, would you really have that pair over Hazard and potentially Hulk? The difference in quality is there for everyone to see.

It's that difference in quality that wins you trophies. You can admire Wenger's and Arsenal's shrewdness but in my opinion football clubs should strive to win trophies. For example, instead of them signing Giroud and Podolski, they could add a couple of million and purchase Jovetic, which would definitely help more in the hunt for silverware. Winning silverware also brings more revenue in potentially, so the extra millions they spent on Jovetic would be covered.

You look at today's Arsenal team, then you look at the Invincibles. The contrast is quite outstanding. Will Giroud and Podolski really give them that extra quality to win trophies on a regular? I don't really think so.