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Polo7
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Fucking hell this thread has become pathetic. 

DYC.
DYC.

The conditions couldn't have been worse for a debut performance. But he gave Chelsea fans something to be positive about. Well done, son.

Hybrid Angel
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This thread is beyond pathetic. People are actually calling him Torres #2 for 20 minutes of play where he was completely isolated upfront and a penalty he missed. What would you expect Morata to do in

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29 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

After watching him at the 2006 World Cup I was certain Andriy had nothing to offer us and should not be signed. I posted, elsewhere, to say so but included another opinion. I felt then, and still feel now, that because signing a player he loved was a part of Roman's motivation for being here in the first place, that transfer should be acceptable to all Chelsea fans, even if it didn't work out.

To be fair to Roman he seems more wiling to back others judgement than I would have been. I make no bones about the fact that, in his position, I would have made all of the transfer decisions myself, every one of them. That isn't to say that a manager might not have persuaded me to back his judgement if I felt he was right. Don't think anyone would have sold me on Andriy though. If that seems like I'm being a bit boastful with the benefit of hindsight, then let me balance the record by saying that I also doubt anyone would have convinced me to sign Didier Drogba either. Even I'm not perfect. :) 

Andriy was an archetypal example of my 30yo and off the cliff paradigm. Turned 30 a month into the first season with us, and a combination of a much harder league, ageing process, and massive minutes for most of the previous 11 seasons did him in.

The Vesper of 2018/19 would have been warning about the buy. At the time all a much younger me saw was the striker with the superb 1999-2006 Milan record. 

We all live and learn, lolol.

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26 minutes ago, Vesper said:

The Vesper of 2018/19 would have been warning about the buy. At the time all a much younger me saw was the striker with the superb 1999-2006 Milan record. 

We all live and learn, lolol.

Funny you should say this. There are always people with different opinions and, when I argued against buying Sheva, someone countered with his Milan statistics. I answered that by saying that I preferred the evidence of my own eyes over the stats. To which the other person replied with even more stats. :) More interstingly though, what you say has a bearing on probably my strangest football opinion.

Without the merest speck of evidence to support it, I believe that Arkaidy Abramovich plays a part in selecting transfer targets. In fact it was what I saw as the immaturity of one our signings which first gave me the idea that Arkaidy might be involved. Signing Marko Marin was so ridiculous that even Bremen fans laughed when we bought him. I can see how Marko's talent could have looked impressive to a young mind which was able to recognise ability, but was not yet mature enough to take proper account of the negatives. 

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2 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Funny you should say this. There are always people with different opinions and, when I argued against buying Sheva, someone countered with his Milan statistics. I answered that by saying that I preferred the evidence of my own eyes over the stats. To which the other person replied with even more stats. :) More interstingly though, what you say has a bearing on probably my strangest football opinion.

Without the merest speck of evidence to support it, I believe that Arkaidy Abramovich plays a part in selecting transfer targets. In fact it was what I saw as the immaturity of one our signings which first gave me the idea that Arkaidy might be involved. Signing Marko Marin was so ridiculous that even Bremen fans laughed when we bought him. I can see how Marko's talent could have looked impressive to a young mind which was able to recognise ability, but was not yet mature enough to take proper account of the negatives. 

Arkadiy had less of an excuse age wise to know better. I was 14 when Sheva came in. He turned 19 a few weeks after Marin came in. Lolol

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Andriy was an archetypal example of my 30yo and off the cliff paradigm. Turned 30 a month into the first season with us, and a combination of a much harder league, ageing process, and massive minutes for most of the previous 11 seasons did him in.

The Vesper of 2018/19 would have been warning about the buy. At the time all a much younger me saw was the striker with the superb 1999-2006 Milan record. 

We all live and learn, lolol.

i know it didnt work out for him here, but this sweet goal in the FA Cup replay against Spurs in 2007 showed his class, prime Sheva goal. Cheers

 

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51 minutes ago, mccg said:

Torres, Costa, Eto'o and Morata - Departing star the latest to fail post-Drogba

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/torres-costa-etoo-and-morata-departing-star-latest-fail-post-drogba

On what planet were Costa and Eto'o failures? The whole talk about our striker curse has gotten so absurd that players are now labeled as failures regardless of how they play.

Yes, Torres was terrible but at least he had the tendency to score important goals in big games (semi against Barca, Europa League final etc.). and I believe that would have scored A LOT more goals if he was playing under Conte or Sarri and with the squad we have today. The only true failure has been Morata.

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