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1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

Gotta ask bruv. Whats with the goat? Is it like - Stuborn as a old goat? lol Just wondered.

🤣 Well now you say it, I am as stubborn as an old goat. Actually I was just looking at funny goat faces on google at work through pure boredem. Then decided it kind of resembled my own facial features.

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2 hours ago, DDA said:

🤣 Well now you say it, I am as stubborn as an old goat. Actually I was just looking at funny goat faces on google at work through pure boredem. Then decided it kind of resembled my own facial features.

haha Looks a LITTLE like manpe's head on his Av

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1 hour ago, Mana said:

We didn't chase Aubameyang when he was available in January. A player that has a track record of 20+ goals.

Because the board (and many of us) thought Morata would turn the corner. He's not going to turn the corner, probably ever. I'm not just looking at his Chelsea's career where he missed 3 1v1s, I'm talking about his ENTIRE career so far.

I wanted Auba, as he is capable. If we had him, top 4 would have been ours. The mistakes this board made, hurts us yet again.

God so help me if Morata remains our key man next season. That'll be 2 seasons without CL (unless maybe we win the EL by luck).

I've haven't been this negative towards a player since Torres. I don't like being this negative. But the club is in danger. Another season like this, players like Kante, Hazard etc. will start leaving and sponsors will pull out. Top players will look at Arsenal rather than us because we aren't spending cash as we used to. 

We need someone who scores 20+ goals in our squad. It is required if we want to win the league, let alone top 4. Who's going to do that here?

Aubamayang and Morata are literally in the same class/tier. He’s not really that good. Look at how Michy was scoring at BVB for example - more to do with the system than anything. He isn’t that good of a striker. Plus, once his speed is gone, he’ll be extremely average. 

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1 hour ago, Mana said:

We didn't chase Aubameyang when he was available in January. A player that has a track record of 20+ goals.

. If we had him, top 4 would have been ours. The mistakes this board made, hurts us yet again.

 

Please tell me that you have watched auba play and not saying that based on stat only. Aubameyang is a poacher, his involvement in the attack is very limited. He is not suitable to our team at all. There is a reason why grioud has been quite decent for us albeit his poor finishing and really lack of pace 

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12 hours ago, DDA said:

🤣 Well now you say it, I am as stubborn as an old goat. Actually I was just looking at funny goat faces on google at work through pure boredem. Then decided it kind of resembled my own facial features.

What's your favourite tv show of all time When the goat comes in ?:) Ok bad pun I'll get me goat.

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22 minutes ago, Mana said:

Didn't Aubamayang score 40 goals last season or was that imaginary? Also Auba has been here half a season, and is already closing in on Morata's total PL tally. 2 goals away.

Until Morata reaches 20+ goals in a season, I strongly disagree with your statement.

It has nothing to do with Morata, he isn’t the benchmark for strikers at all is he? I literally gave you an example of our very own Batshuayi - he could score 40 in that system. Aubamayang is just a system player. I’m one of Morata’s biggest critics on here but honestly Aubameyang isn’t much better. 

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2 hours ago, Mana said:

No, my point is if we are going to be in the top 4, you need a 20+ goal player/striker. Morata isn't proven in any league he has played to do that. 

Batshuayi has broken 20+ goals once in his 8-year career, and that was in the Belgian league. You said Bats "could" score 40 in that system. Well, until he does The Skipper, I don't believe you. We'll see IF he stays in BVB.

If Aubamayang's crap around the park, but still scores 20 goals for us...who cares?

There are lots of more interesting strikers than Auba out there. Plus he doesn’t really suit our system. Batshuayi scores 9 goals in 14 appearances for Dortmund before his injury - extrapolate that and he’d easily hit 20+. Even if you look at his CFC numbers, extrapolating them over a full season as a first choice striker - he’d score 20+. I’m not trying to defend Morata at all, My main point is that Auba wouldn’t be a great buy. Not the sort of player that’d take us to the next level. Not going to get better either. He’s also pretty much in the same tier as Morata as a striker imo. 

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3 hours ago, The Skipper said:

There are lots of more interesting strikers than Auba out there. Plus he doesn’t really suit our system. Batshuayi scores 9 goals in 14 appearances for Dortmund before his injury - extrapolate that and he’d easily hit 20+. Even if you look at his CFC numbers, extrapolating them over a full season as a first choice striker - he’d score 20+. I’m not trying to defend Morata at all, My main point is that Auba wouldn’t be a great buy. Not the sort of player that’d take us to the next level. Not going to get better either. He’s also pretty much in the same tier as Morata as a striker imo. 

I think people are overthinking about those striker options. Just give us a man who will score when given a chance, and who would offer something, anything else, aside from that (like Auba offers insane pace for example... and yes, he scores high amount of clear chances). Doesn't every striker needs to be Drogba. He could even be just a poacher if he is really really great at that, like Icardi.

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11 minutes ago, El P. said:

I think people are overthinking about those striker options. Just give us a man who will score when given a chance, and who would offer something, anything else, aside from that (like Auba offers insane pace for example... and yes, he scores high amount of clear chances). Doesn't every striker needs to be Drogba. He could even be just a poacher if he is really really great at that, like Icardi.

We are indeed overthinking, but IMO we are overvaluing the striker position when the team just isn't good enough regardless who plays up front. I see nothing special about our team... we play laborious football.

Besides, finding that player is very difficult, not to mention expensive. Either you go for the proven solution, in which case you are competing with others, or you make bets and these bets will also be expensive.

We had a good striker, with high work rate and decent technique. Too bad he was also a nutcase.

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We are indeed overthinking, but IMO we are overvaluing the striker position when the team just isn't good enough regardless who plays up front. I see nothing special about our team... we play laborious football.
Besides, finding that player is very difficult, not to mention expensive. Either you go for the proven solution, in which case you are competing with others, or you make bets and these bets will also be expensive.
We had a good striker, with high work rate and decent technique. Too bad he was also a nutcase.
There's little to no difference between our squad this season or last, yet Costa still scored 20 goals whilst going missing after January.

I don't think anyone in their right mind can say Morata has taken more chances than he's missed. His performance at Arsenal will live long in the memory for sure
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14 hours ago, Mana said:

Didn't Aubamayang score 40 goals last season or was that imaginary? Also Auba has been here half a season, and is already closing in on Morata's total PL tally. 2 goals away.

Until Morata reaches 20+ goals in a season, I strongly disagree with your statement.

We need someone that can bury chances. Have you seen the Huddlesfield game where there were times a cross comes in and no one's in the box?

Like @The Skipper said, it comes down to system. There is a reason why michy thrive in BVB. Michy is a damn good finisher, better than Morata, maybe better than Costa. In Bvb their striker is not required to be involved in build up that much, hence it fit the way auba and michy play. In our team, the striker is asked to hold up the ball and involve in build up, if he struggle, everything will fall apart in term of our attacking play. 

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2 hours ago, LAM09 said:

There's little to no difference between our squad this season or last, yet Costa still scored 20 goals whilst going missing after January.

I don't think anyone in their right mind can say Morata has taken more chances than he's missed. His performance at Arsenal will live long in the memory for sure

many differences (aside from diego, which was an obvious loss):

1. Matic a good (starter) CM left and nobody came (good/great however you rate him - doesn't matter)

2. The surprise mechanics with the 3 in the back are no longer a surprise (Conte had a hand in our win)

3. Most players are not as rested and fit, which is due to the push to win last season and,

4. a lot more games this season (CL) with still a very small squad

5. Fabregas is older and looks more unfit (our only capable CM to play alongside Kante see #1)

6. the opposition is a hell lot better?! City would've won last season... easily

Yeah, I'm going to have to disagree. I look at our play and we play like crap most of the time. No striker in the world can fix that.

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