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Much better game from him - goal, some few nice passes (especially the one to Hazard with outside part of the foot), showed some aggresivness, but in a better way than stupid fouls. hope he can keep up with form against opposition that actually is showing up for a game

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On 12/12/2017 at 3:03 AM, Styles said:

That doesn't really explain the complete lack of any technical ability whatsoever. He looks completely and utterly out of his depth against even average Premier League opponents. He may get better but his ceiling isn't that high because of his lack of skill. I seriously doubt there will be a massive improvement on what he is currently. It will be marginal at best.

Drinkwater is comfortably better and he isn't good enough either.

We're rubbish because we sign players like this whilst the top teams continue to prioritise skill and technique.

 

Finally someone who understands, I know that players need time to adjust to a new league, ne team etc etc. I can quite understand that, but the problem is not that he isn't able to adjust to this club, the problem is he hasn't really shown what are we even giving him time for, because he hasn't shown any sort of skill set whatsoever. You give time to players to sort out and polish their skills, but what to do about a player who has just shown an ardent lack of them.

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What i got from that is, he isn't playing well because we're comparing him to Matic, and he had a bad game for France in March in which the following media's headlines shook him. If he can't handle that, he can't handle the tweets he now gets on Twitter either.

Said it from the start - he lacks mentality. We must get rid. He isn't strong in the head, and any improvement would be a facade at this point.

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Michael Essien was another dynamic, box-to-box midfielder who arrived from France - looked hopeless for the most part in his first season (anyone who says different is a liar, his performances were excellent from April onwards but there was a reason why Mourinho brought Maniche in on loan...) - who suddenly massively improved after his first full season in the Premier League. I guess we should have gotten rid of him after a few months, as well?

 

Give the kid a chance. He's been excellent in the last two games. Can't be easy when you don't have a consistent midfield partner and the manager is fucking about with formations. 

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2 hours ago, BlueLion. said:

Michael Essien was another dynamic, box-to-box midfielder who arrived from France - looked hopeless for the most part in his first season

It was a long time ago so maybe I'm wrong, but I remember him being played as right midfielder, not central in the beginning. Maybe that was the reason?

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On 17/12/2017 at 11:48 AM, BlueLion. said:

Give the kid a chance. He's been excellent in the last two games. Can't be easy when you don't have a consistent midfield partner and the manager is fucking about with formations

Either 'fucking about with formations' or a 'tactical genius'? Just depebds on which side of the coin you flip I suppose. I know I'd rather have formation changes than let every team know eactly what youre going to do week in week out.

Its very hard to be patiant with new players when you are expected to win silverware. Its all well and good if he was in a mid table club with no aspirations apart from staying up.

I THINK Bakayoko is one of these who rely on peeps building his confidence up instead of finding a way to do it himself. He wasn't always good in Monaco tho.

He was a bit better the last 2 ganes so lets see if he goes out on loan or not.

 

 

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It just hit me today watching him against Everton - he wasn't terrible and yet just as bad to me eyes, and it is something that showcases his IMO poor technique: it actually reminds me of zouma, but essentially it's players who just aren't that natural playing the game and need to adjust their bodies even to make the easiest of passes. It's not elegance when you look stoic when making a pass, but rather an adjustment in your upper body, so that you can actually make that pass. Natural footballers Do all that, dribbles, moves, when running forward, backwards, sideways, and when falling down.

Once again, I hope to be at least somewhat wrong about him. Otherwise we will be stuck with a very inapt player for a very long time (or sell him at a hefty loss), but I've seen this before and it all ends up the same way.

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Well Matic wasn't a big goalscorer so I won't go far into that against Baka. At least he gets in good positions.

I feel like his confidence is shot. And he is certainly a confidence player. He has the goods! We have seen that from him, but something is bothering him like he doesn't believe in his ability.

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42 minutes ago, Mufassir08 said:

Absolute waste of space to play him as a box to box. Adds absolutely nothing going forward, I'd try him out as the holding mid with Kante ahead of him.

Actually he is very good at making runs, creating space and wiping out markers, he caused merry hell vs Man.Utd, Matic ironically couldn't live with his movement, doing that and is a big reason we can now for the most part pull off 352. 

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I dont mind his poor technique that much as I miss his drive and determination. 

His looks like one big beast on pitch but doesnt act like one one bit. He goes softly in challenges or makes fouls and when he gets chance to shoot on goal, it gets him by surprise and it turns into scared attempt on goal.

Morata is kind of same, always falling down and missing easy sitters.

Im not criticising them much, but hell they should man the hell up. 

We desperately need alpha men in this team. 

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15 hours ago, Yeboii said:

but something is bothering him like he doesn't believe in his ability.

Probably too easily influenced by the critics and trolls in social media, fears of becoming an expensive failure and a target for mockery and all that as a result. Players who can't handle it should stop using them and concentrate on one thing only - training and listening to your coaches, not anonymous meme-heroes. But I'm speculating and could be way off from what is really bothering him.

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