Vesper 30,178 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 Just now, Atomiswave said: Thats what happens when you suck ass Vesper....when you lack experience this is what you get, stubborn as fuck too it seems. I have been at wit's end for years the 5 things that made me perma-snap where the non Courtois timely sale (which ended up causing the insane £71m panic buy of Kepa plus £40 to £50m less for Cuntois the next year), the Drinkwater buy (both not all on Marina, and I also blame the board as well, plus our SHIT scouting) the non timely sale of Hazard (which may end up costing us £90-100m in lost revenue) and then the turn down of £65m for Willian (Barca), plus the turndown of £45m for Alonso (Real) these 2 newer turns downs (Bats and Baka) are just more icing on the shit cake Atomiswave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomiswave 6,117 Posted June 2, 2020 Share Posted June 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vesper said: I have been at wit's end for years the 5 things that made me perma-snap where the non Courtois timely sale (which ended up causing the insane £71m panic buy of Kepa plus £40 to £50m less for Cuntois the next year), the Drinkwater buy (both not all on Marina, and I also blame the board as well, plus our SHIT scouting) the non timely sale of Hazard (which may end up costing us £90-100m in lost revenue) and then the turn down of £65m for Willian (Barca), plus the turndown of £45m for Alonso (Real) these 2 newer turns downs (Bats and Baka) are just more icing on the shit cake Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 On 6/2/2020 at 9:50 PM, Vesper said: yep she turned down a combined £67m (35m for Bats, 32m for Baka) for Bats and Baka, demanded £87m total (45m and 42m, roflmaoooo) now we will be lucky as hell to get £35-40m total for BOTH she fucking sucks When did we get 35m bid for micjy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, communicate said: When did we get 35m bid for micjy? She probably thinks Palace but very week sources reported that. Also Milan rejected to buy Bakayoko on permanent just like Monaco now so I doubt we ever received any offers for him either. Same goes for Alonso-Real story. I mean there were reports that Barca wants Moses a couple of years ago... I personally only believe Barca-Willian thing because it was confirmed by Willian himself. killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 hours ago, communicate said: When did we get 35m bid for micjy? I really tire of having to keep posting the same shit over and over after this last time search on this site and google is your friend  Palace and Villa (they wanted a loan then buy) and West ham and  Everton, all at various times came in and said, oki, you quoted us £35m (see below) and fucking Marina came back and said, NOPE £45m or fuck off it was all over the news for weeks, it was talked about by all the EPL presenters, including during games, ans including the yank broadcasts too plus ESPN Football, etc etc etc Chelsea quote massive £45m fee for Michy Batshuayi as Crystal Palace and Aston Villa are dealt transfer blow https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7878415/Chelsea-quote-massive-45m-fee-Michy-Batshuayi-transfer-blow-Aston-Villa.html  oh, this too Chelsea priced Spurs out of a loan move for Michy Batshuayi by demanding a huge fee https://www.givemesport.com/1449082-chelsea-priced-spurs-out-of-a-loan-move-for-michy-batshuayi-by-demanding-a-huge-fee  ASTON VILLA WISH TO SIGN CHELSEA’S MICHY BATSHUAYI ON LOAN, HOPE FOR PURCHASE OPTION https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/01/02/report-aston-villa-wish-to-sign-chelseas-michy-batshuayi-on-loan/  last year Everton told they must pay £35m to sign Michy Batshuayi https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/31/everton-west-ham-compete-ps35m-rated-chelsea-outcast-michy-batshuayi-late-deal  Everton & West Ham Compete for £35m-Rated Chelsea Outcast Michy Batshuayi in Late Deal https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/31/everton-west-ham-compete-ps35m-rated-chelsea-outcast-michy-batshuayi-late-deal  Michy Batshuayi latest as Everton linked with permanent £35m deal on transfer deadline day https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/michy-batshuayi-latest-everton-linked-15759381   and before all that  Chelsea want over £50m for Michy Batshuayi as Dortmund push for permanent transfer https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-want-over-50m-for-michy-batshuayi-as-dortmund-push-for-permanent-transfer-a3815671.html   present day (more or less)  Michy Batshuayi Offered Chelsea Exit by Crystal Palace and West Ham By David Ford | Apr 30 2020 https://www.90min.com/posts/michy-batshuayi-offered-chelsea-exit-by-crystal-palace-and-west-ham-01e75kqdkdgc snip Belgian news outlet Het Laatste have reported that Batshuayi is set to leave Chelsea this summer as he enters the final year of his contract, with the Blues set to recoup less than half of the £33m they paid Marseille for him in 2016. Batshuayi has never managed to command a first team place in Chelsea's squad, only making 77 appearances for them in the four seasons since he signed, many of those from the bench. He hasn't yet convinced a loan club on his performances to the point of securing a move – Valencia even cutting his spell short after three goals in 23 games – but will be available cheaper than ever this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Vesper said: I really tire of having to keep posting the same shit over and over after this last time search on this site and google is your friend  Palace and Villa (they wanted a loan then buy) and West ham and  Everton, all at various times came in and said, oki, you quoted us £35m (see below) and fucking Marina came back and said, NOPE £45m or fuck off it was all over the news for weeks, it was talked about by all the EPL presenters, including during games, ans including the yank broadcasts too plus ESPN Football, etc etc etc Chelsea quote massive £45m fee for Michy Batshuayi as Crystal Palace and Aston Villa are dealt transfer blow https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7878415/Chelsea-quote-massive-45m-fee-Michy-Batshuayi-transfer-blow-Aston-Villa.html  oh, this too Chelsea priced Spurs out of a loan move for Michy Batshuayi by demanding a huge fee https://www.givemesport.com/1449082-chelsea-priced-spurs-out-of-a-loan-move-for-michy-batshuayi-by-demanding-a-huge-fee  ASTON VILLA WISH TO SIGN CHELSEA’S MICHY BATSHUAYI ON LOAN, HOPE FOR PURCHASE OPTION https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/01/02/report-aston-villa-wish-to-sign-chelseas-michy-batshuayi-on-loan/  last year Everton told they must pay £35m to sign Michy Batshuayi https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/31/everton-west-ham-compete-ps35m-rated-chelsea-outcast-michy-batshuayi-late-deal  Everton & West Ham Compete for £35m-Rated Chelsea Outcast Michy Batshuayi in Late Deal https://www.si.com/soccer/2019/01/31/everton-west-ham-compete-ps35m-rated-chelsea-outcast-michy-batshuayi-late-deal  Michy Batshuayi latest as Everton linked with permanent £35m deal on transfer deadline day https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/michy-batshuayi-latest-everton-linked-15759381   and before all that  Chelsea want over £50m for Michy Batshuayi as Dortmund push for permanent transfer https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-want-over-50m-for-michy-batshuayi-as-dortmund-push-for-permanent-transfer-a3815671.html    present day (more or less)  Michy Batshuayi Offered Chelsea Exit by Crystal Palace and West Ham By David Ford | Apr 30 2020 https://www.90min.com/posts/michy-batshuayi-offered-chelsea-exit-by-crystal-palace-and-west-ham-01e75kqdkdgc snip Belgian news outlet Het Laatste have reported that Batshuayi is set to leave Chelsea this summer as he enters the final year of his contract, with the Blues set to recoup less than half of the £33m they paid Marseille for him in 2016. Batshuayi has never managed to command a first team place in Chelsea's squad, only making 77 appearances for them in the four seasons since he signed, many of those from the bench. He hasn't yet convinced a loan club on his performances to the point of securing a move – Valencia even cutting his spell short after three goals in 23 games – but will be available cheaper than ever this summer. So january 2020, i believe during that time we were looking for a striker which we couldn't get. Lampard also didn't really want to play Giroud, if we sold michy may as well abandon this season because It is obvious that Tammy has conditioning issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 He is desperate begging clubs to sign him. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 08/06/2020 at 5:32 PM, NikkiCFC said: He is desperate begging clubs to sign him. He was actually quite good at AC Milan once he settled in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 Please be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8606979/amp/Tiemoue-Bakayoko-prepared-50-wage-cut-return-AC-Milan-Chelsea-standing-firm.html http://sportwitness.co.uk/chelsea-bakayoko-ac-milan-transfer/ So baka apparently willing to take a pay cut. Hopefully Milan pays the 20m€. Will be in interest of all 3 parties involved killer1257 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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King Kante 1,643 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:  With the Covid situation and the sheer number of dregs we have, the club had better start getting used to this. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Take it! Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Bought him for 40m€, left 16m€ amortized value. So will be needing at least that. To be fair, we have earned 8m€ on loaned fees on him. Think we will stick to 20m€. Baka himself is taking a massive pay cut, no way will milan let it go over 5m€. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 30,178 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 28 minutes ago, King Kante said: With the Covid situation and the sheer number of dregs we have, the club had better start getting used to this. my 'hundreds of millions shit away' massively detailed posts (that multiple people scoffed at despite them being basic simple addition/subtraction maths) look better and better as each month goes by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 Thing is, we can account the €20m for Bakayoko for the year on the books if we sell him. The same applies for every player we sell.  For Havertz, I believe we only account for a portion of his fee on the books. Same goes for any player that comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 14 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said: Thing is, we can account the €20m for Bakayoko for the year on the books if we sell him. The same applies for every player we sell.  For Havertz, I believe we only account for a portion of his fee on the books. Same goes for any player that comes in. True that the whole 20m€ we get will be accounted in "player sales" but his "amortized fee" would also increase as the whole left amortized fee will have to be accounted for this season, so 16m€. "Profit" will be only 4m€, but most importantly we lessen our overall bloated amortized values and free up 8m€ for better players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puliiszola 519 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 14 hours ago, Vesper said: my 'hundreds of millions shit away' massively detailed posts (that multiple people scoffed at despite them being basic simple addition/subtraction maths) look better and better as each month goes by If we sell baka for 20m€ right now, we will have a profit of 4m€ this season. If we had sold him for 30m€ last sesson, we would have had a profit of 6m only and that would not have helped us in any way, as I am pretty sure are books will be well balanced for this year due to hazard. So unless one of the people on our board was a psychic who could predict the oncoming pandemic and see the devaluation, I think the board was spot on in their dealing of baka. Under normal circumstances, Monaco would have bought him for 30m€, giving us a 14m€ profit for 2020/21 books and massively helping in getting some targets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Puliiszola said: If we sell baka for 20m€ right now, we will have a profit of 4m€ this season. If we had sold him for 30m€ last sesson, we would have had a profit of 6m only and that would not have helped us in any way, as I am pretty sure are books will be well balanced for this year due to hazard. So unless one of the people on our board was a psychic who could predict the oncoming pandemic and see the devaluation, I think the board was spot on in their dealing of baka. Under normal circumstances, Monaco would have bought him for 30m€, giving us a 14m€ profit for 2020/21 books and massively helping in getting some targets. Yes, this is true. However, taking that option is a risk. For instance, what happens if he blows his knee out like Van Ginkle? What happens if he loses form again? When do you decided to cut losses when you already have a vast number of players on loan/surplus? For me, Chelsea have been a bit too hard core at times with the values they want with the loan players. I mean we had offers of over £30m for Batsh*t and we all knew he was sh*t but with a good scoring record. Kenedy we got offered £20m by Newcastle but we said £30m after his first six months at Newcastle. Sure, holding onto players helped us with the likes of Kalas, Hector etc. However, I think we have hoarded too many and their should've been more churn as we always ran a serious risk of being lumbered with too many players if the economy went south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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