BMox81 193 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Dimitr said: I've heard that we also offered 35m € and he chose Bayern.I don't know the reliability of this source,but nobody can prove it wrong or right. So if he had his own preference of where he wanted to go and he wanted to go to Bayern, I'm finding it difficult as to how any blame can be placed on our doorstep..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 I question why Chelsea didn't go for a LB like Sandro aggressively 2 years ago when he signed for Juve. Baba Rahman was the answer? I can't help but think that Emenalo is permitted too much of a voice in transfers while others are inept negotiators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 How reliable is guardian these days? They are saying we are stepping up for Sandro and Bakayoko. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, Dimitr said: I've heard that we also offered 35m € and he chose Bayern.I don't know the reliability of this source,but nobody can prove it wrong or right. Pretty sure the source was metro about as reliable as a paper boat lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, quickpassnmove said: I question why Chelsea didn't go for a LB like Sandro aggressively 2 years ago when he signed for Juve. Baba Rahman was the answer? I can't help but think that Emenalo is permitted too much of a voice in transfers while others are inept negotiators. It was just a bad call in judgement, which in hindsight proved to be a shocker. But again, Hindsight is the key word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 27 minutes ago, AK-3001 said: It was just a bad call in judgement, which in hindsight proved to be a shocker. But again, Hindsight is the key word. I would argue "ineptitude." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-3001 286 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 28 minutes ago, quickpassnmove said: I would argue "ineptitude." I wouldn't. Baba Rehtman was a very hot prospect at that time. Didn't see anyone complaining about that signing back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 2 hours ago, AK-3001 said: I wouldn't. Baba Rehtman was a very hot prospect at that time. Didn't see anyone complaining about that signing back then. I remember alot of people saying we should get Sandro instead, at least those who saw him play. He was brilliant in porto, better than Danilo. Baba only had one good season for augsburg if i remember, there was alot of hype around him that Real wants him, I had zero clue who he is apart from reading rumours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,278 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 22 minutes ago, BlueLyon said: I remember alot of people saying we should get Sandro instead, at least those who saw him play. He was brilliant in porto, better than Danilo. Baba only had one good season for augsburg if i remember, there was alot of hype around him that Real wants him, I had zero clue who he is apart from reading rumours. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted June 19, 2017 Share Posted June 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Mário César said: no Everytime I saw him, he played better. And I saw plenty of CL and europa league games of porto back then. Never understood what was all the fuss about Danilo tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 10 hours ago, AK-3001 said: It was just a bad call in judgement, which in hindsight proved to be a shocker. But again, Hindsight is the key word. 9 hours ago, quickpassnmove said: I would argue "ineptitude." 9 hours ago, AK-3001 said: I wouldn't. Baba Rehtman was a very hot prospect at that time. Didn't see anyone complaining about that signing back then. It was there to be seen that Baba was not the answer. Players get hyped and people get swept along. Sanches at the Euros last summer for example. Our squad builders should have the judgement to see past the hype so I'm afraid they do deserve criticism for this one. It wasn't difficult. Those of us who were against the Baba deal presumably watched much less of him than they did. If we saw it, they should have done. On a more positive note, we are being linked with a much higher calibre of player these days. I made this point last summer, and the same is true this time around. In transfer windows of the recent past, there were many poor players targeted. This time, the only convincingly rumoured target I am disappointed with is Lukaku. Even there, it is not as it was with Torres, who sent me into a depression as soon as he was linked. Rom is more effective than Nando and will do more for us if he rejoins. I just feel we can, and should, do better. I accept that just being linked does not add up to anything but I'd rather miss out on signing a good player, than succeed in signing a bad one. At least we are throwing our hat into the ring for better footballers these days, and that's a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickpassnmove 924 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 3 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It was there to be seen that Baba was not the answer. Players get hyped and people get swept along. Sanches at the Euros last summer for example. Our squad builders should have the judgement to see past the hype so I'm afraid they do deserve criticism for this one. It wasn't difficult. Those of us who were against the Baba deal presumably watched much less of him than they did. If we saw it, they should have done. On a more positive note, we are being linked with a much higher calibre of player these days. I made this point last summer, and the same is true this time around. In transfer windows of the recent past, there were many poor players targeted. This time, the only convincingly rumoured target I am disappointed with is Lukaku. Even there, it is not as it was with Torres, who sent me into a depression as soon as he was linked. Rom is more effective than Nando and will do more for us if he rejoins. I just feel we can, and should, do better. I accept that just being linked does not add up to anything but I'd rather miss out on signing a good player, than succeed in signing a bad one. At least we are throwing our hat into the ring for better footballers these days, and that's a start. Many of were happy that Chelsea DID sign a LB two years ago (more was needed), but it was settling for an arguably lesser signing at the time. As Greavsie says, it's good to see that Chelsea --if we believe all the rumours-- are showing the ambition for top-notch players again --esp. when we need quality on those wings to break a defence. I like what I'm hearing in terms of Chelsea transfer rumours at them moment. If it's true that Conte wants TWO CMs, I'm guessing Matic is outta here and we're getting more depth. Hope we get a gem for CM too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 I asked Juan -Luca mascaro about Alex Sandro, he said. We are interested in him and we have several bids rejected until now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 5 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It was there to be seen that Baba was not the answer. Players get hyped and people get swept along. Sanches at the Euros last summer for example. Our squad builders should have the judgement to see past the hype so I'm afraid they do deserve criticism for this one. It wasn't difficult. Those of us who were against the Baba deal presumably watched much less of him than they did. If we saw it, they should have done. On a more positive note, we are being linked with a much higher calibre of player these days. I made this point last summer, and the same is true this time around. In transfer windows of the recent past, there were many poor players targeted. This time, the only convincingly rumoured target I am disappointed with is Lukaku. Even there, it is not as it was with Torres, who sent me into a depression as soon as he was linked. Rom is more effective than Nando and will do more for us if he rejoins. I just feel we can, and should, do better. I accept that just being linked does not add up to anything but I'd rather miss out on signing a good player, than succeed in signing a bad one. At least we are throwing our hat into the ring for better footballers these days, and that's a start. 1 hour ago, quickpassnmove said: Many of were happy that Chelsea DID sign a LB two years ago (more was needed), but it was settling for an arguably lesser signing at the time. As Greavsie says, it's good to see that Chelsea --if we believe all the rumours-- are showing the ambition for top-notch players again --esp. when we need quality on those wings to break a defence. I like what I'm hearing in terms of Chelsea transfer rumours at them moment. If it's true that Conte wants TWO CMs, I'm guessing Matic is outta here and we're getting more depth. Hope we get a gem for CM too. What I really like is that we are linked with players who are good 1 on 1 dribblers. So many times against the big teams, only Hazard can make something happen. If we have players like that in many positions on the pitch it is a huge plus. Madrid have marcelo, carvajal, modric, Isco, Bale, Ronaldo and even benzema who are all dribblers in the starting line-up. We have hazard, Moses (I'm pushing it here) and Willian when he comes from the bench. We need more of these types of players who make things happen on their own in tough matches were we have been marked out of creating chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 6 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said: It was there to be seen that Baba was not the answer. Players get hyped and people get swept along. Sanches at the Euros last summer for example. Our squad builders should have the judgement to see past the hype so I'm afraid they do deserve criticism for this one. It wasn't difficult. Those of us who were against the Baba deal presumably watched much less of him than they did. If we saw it, they should have done. On a more positive note, we are being linked with a much higher calibre of player these days. I made this point last summer, and the same is true this time around. In transfer windows of the recent past, there were many poor players targeted. This time, the only convincingly rumoured target I am disappointed with is Lukaku. Even there, it is not as it was with Torres, who sent me into a depression as soon as he was linked. Rom is more effective than Nando and will do more for us if he rejoins. I just feel we can, and should, do better. I accept that just being linked does not add up to anything but I'd rather miss out on signing a good player, than succeed in signing a bad one. At least we are throwing our hat into the ring for better footballers these days, and that's a start. 2 hours ago, quickpassnmove said: Many of were happy that Chelsea DID sign a LB two years ago (more was needed), but it was settling for an arguably lesser signing at the time. As Greavsie says, it's good to see that Chelsea --if we believe all the rumours-- are showing the ambition for top-notch players again --esp. when we need quality on those wings to break a defence. I like what I'm hearing in terms of Chelsea transfer rumours at them moment. If it's true that Conte wants TWO CMs, I'm guessing Matic is outta here and we're getting more depth. Hope we get a gem for CM too. 10 hours ago, BlueLyon said: Everytime I saw him, he played better. And I saw plenty of CL and europa league games of porto back then. Never understood what was all the fuss about Danilo tbh. There were many people who were against signing Baba on here, including my humble self. We signed Baba after having sold Filipe Luis and Ryan Bertrand which are both multiple times better than our Ghanaian fella. I admit that I have not seen much of Sandra but of Baba and everyone could see he clearly is not our level. Also we massively overpaid for him. And that is only one of a series of incredibly short-sighted and simply ill-judged signings our hierachy has made. They have always been hit and miss, that is just the way things go but lately they have been much more miss than hit. We have been paying loads for average players and sold world class talent for mediocre amounts, esp under Mourinho. There clearly does not only need to be some more competence at the heart of it but also some consistency. Either target world class players and be prepared to play hefty price tags or sign prospective talents and risk not too much by overpaying. The same goes for Emenalo buying Djilobodji and Baba but Mourinho can sell Salah and KDB? Having the manager in charge of sales and the board in charge of buys or the other way round is just madness. Once we have concepted a strategy and implemented, we should stick to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's too big 625 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 It's ultimately up to the player. If the player wants to leave, then Juve will have to accept one of our higher bids for him. The ball is in Sandro's court, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 19 hours ago, BlueLyon said: How reliable is guardian these days? I think they got the day and date right once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 Juventus will only sell Alex Sandro if he ask to leave, but Chelsea must bid higher than €60m. (Tuttosport) #CFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitr 488 Posted June 20, 2017 Share Posted June 20, 2017 http://m.calciomercato.com/en/news/chelsea-make-improved-70-million-eur-offer-for-juventus-star-57212 LET'S GET IT DONE ✅ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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